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fw190a8 Posted - 31 Dec 2008 : 01:38:41
Back in 2006, there was an excellent series of articles by Ed - http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archfr/frbk - about the Border Kingdoms. These appeared to be posted in alphabetical order (until the final one, High Mukshar), but then stopped at the end of 2006, despite claiming to be "complete". Did Ed (or anyone else) ever say why these articles were never fully made available? I want to read about the rest of the Border Kingdoms!
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Alenis Posted - 04 Jun 2013 : 10:59:31
I don't suppose any updates have occurred in the last 10 months that I simply haven't seen elsewhere
The Sage Posted - 25 Aug 2012 : 01:57:08
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

The Border kingdoms is an excellent region to get the 'good in any era' lore treatment, because of its very nature.
Indeed. As I've said many a time... one of the selling points for the Border Kingdoms, at least for me, is due to the region being, perhaps more so than any other part of the established Realms, designed to be easily customised for particular and/or individual home Realms campaigns -- complete with swiftly shifting borders and ever-changing rulers. So there's plenty of room for changes and/or the addition of new details for your game.
The Sage Posted - 25 Aug 2012 : 01:55:23
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

I'm a huge fan of the Border Kingdoms as well. As much as they are subject to change (politically) they have a lot of very cool historical parts to it. As well, it is just jam-packed with story potential.

If I were to write a Forgotten Realms novel, the story would take place in the Border Kingdoms.

Any particular "state" of the "Kingdoms," Matt?


-- The Sage, who is hoping Matt's answer will be either Bedorn or Derlusk
Matt James Posted - 25 Aug 2012 : 01:52:55
Tell the WotC staff, and tell them often--especially James Wyatt ;)

Truthfully, you're not likely to see any new authors for awhile. Established ones will be used while output level is low.

..I'll keep trying though!
The Red Walker Posted - 25 Aug 2012 : 00:11:10
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

Well, if I were asked to write any Realms novel, I would do so ;)



That was a rather poor way for me to ask if that was something you aspired to do.

I would say that we all hope your asked....soon!
The Red Walker Posted - 25 Aug 2012 : 00:10:31
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Okay, right a novel that destroys the Moonsea and turns the entire region into a blasted wasteland.

Gotcha.




Well to be fair, to "right" that novel, he'd need to research the one that "wronged" it
Markustay Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 21:59:50
Okay, right a novel that destroys the Moonsea and turns the entire region into a blasted wasteland.

Gotcha.
Matt James Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 21:49:45
Well, if I were asked to write any Realms novel, I would do so ;)
The Red Walker Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 20:36:48
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

I'm a huge fan of the Border Kingdoms as well. As much as they are subject to change (politically) they have a lot of very cool historical parts to it. As well, it is just jam-packed with story potential.

If I were to write a Forgotten Realms novel, the story would take place in the Border Kingdoms.



Is writing a realms border kingdoms novel something you would drop everything for of asked?
Markustay Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 20:31:57
The Border kingdoms is an excellent region to get the 'good in any era' lore treatment, because of its very nature.

Sossal, Shaareach, Altumbel, Murghôm, Threskel, Orlumbar, Tharsult, and Ashanath are also very good regions for this.

Erlkazar, Lake of Steam, Chult, Lantan, Nimbral, and Semphar to a lesser extent, but still worthy candidates.

Once you get into the Heartlands, the lore has to become more era-specific, which works against their stated goal of 'sourcebooks for any era'.
Matt James Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 20:13:09
I'm a huge fan of the Border Kingdoms as well. As much as they are subject to change (politically) they have a lot of very cool historical parts to it. As well, it is just jam-packed with story potential.

If I were to write a Forgotten Realms novel, the story would take place in the Border Kingdoms.
Razz Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 18:25:49
Woah what!? So much to wait on now!
Dark Wizard Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 03:35:37
I would purchase a whole regional supplement on the Border Kingdoms if it were available.

Had plans once to compile all the articles posted on the WotC site, put them through layout on the 3e era FR book background and turn them into a nice PDF. Of course the Spellplague hit, the rest of the articles were never put up on the site, and I lost interest.
The Sage Posted - 24 Aug 2012 : 01:33:19
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

*resurrect scroll*

Fear not...



You are such a tease.....

now I have another thing to wait for!

I just think Matt knows how much I love the Border Kingdoms, and he's decided to string me along with this tease of a tidbit.
Brimstone Posted - 23 Aug 2012 : 18:02:12
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

*resurrect scroll*

Fear not...


The Red Walker Posted - 23 Aug 2012 : 16:06:59
quote:
Originally posted by Matt James

*resurrect scroll*

Fear not...



You are such a tease.....

now I have another thing to wait for!
Matt James Posted - 23 Aug 2012 : 13:54:50
*resurrect scroll*

Fear not...
skychrome Posted - 19 May 2011 : 02:18:32
Border Kingdoms! *drool*
Considering there was little focus on detailing them further in 3e, less there is in 4e. Actually I know it is precisely how it should be kept to maintain it as open as possible... but still I'd love to read more about em... Great setting in Faerun, especially for not that high level PCs...
Brimstone Posted - 13 May 2011 : 16:19:39
Only one way to find out...
The Sage Posted - 13 May 2011 : 16:05:17
quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Nope.

I have a feeling that we wont be seeing them.

Which is a shame...

I'm inclined to agree.

Though, Ed did say -- once, long ago -- that he might eventually be able to slip a few snippets of the unpublished articles in his replies here. I wonder whether that has changed.
Brimstone Posted - 13 May 2011 : 09:19:40
Nope.

I have a feeling that we wont be seeing them.

Which is a shame...
Thieran Posted - 17 Apr 2011 : 17:00:26
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ed fully intends to finish these articles, someday and somehow (they were indeed alphabetical, and he got a little more than half the BK entries written and into print). His hope was to provide them FOR FREE on the Wizards website (convincing WotC to provide them as a "flavour teaser" for the Realms setting, free rather than through Insider and DRAGON because they are 3rd edition and "in the past"), which would of course mean he would write them for free, too. If that doesn't happen (Ed has heard nothing back from the Wizard web folks since the latest downsizing), Ed will try to get permission from Wizards to publish them here, in this thread or the 2010 iteration of it (or wherever in these halls that Alaundo prefers they be located).
So much is "up in the air" at the moment, though. Sigh.
love to all,
THO



Any update on this?
Brynweir Posted - 03 Jan 2009 : 23:45:47
quote:
Originally posted by Thalos_Milathriel

quote:
Originally posted by Brynweir<br>
I have to agree with you there. That's one of the reasons I've also used the Border Kingdoms heavily in my writing.


What writing would that be? Is any good fan fiction posted hereabouts? I've been planning a similar endeavor for some time now, but I can never seem to find the time to get started...



I've posted a few snippets in the adventuring section, but I'm going to send the whole thing to Alaundo when it's finished so it can go in the campaign logs. I've got nearly 250 pages and it really needs editing. There are quite a few really good stories in the campaign logs, though, on the home site (not the forum). You should check it out.

And I happen to know a wizard who isn't bent on conquering the world, but in making it better, so the idea of an NPC wizard trying to keep the BK from being conquered doesn't really strike me as all that odd .
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 03 Jan 2009 : 23:35:04
quote:
Originally posted by Ghost King

Silly wizards and their plans of...oh...well...ah.

A wizard not bent on conquering the world. Huh, that's a new one to me. I guess it is comforting that one wizard is just trying to keep things as they are.

My world just got turned upside down.

~Ghost King~



LOL, exactly--the wizard in question is trying to prevent anyone from conquering the Border Kingdoms (as a whole) and making it their own.
Thalos_Milathriel Posted - 03 Jan 2009 : 01:04:47
quote:
Originally posted by Brynweir<br>
I have to agree with you there. That's one of the reasons I've also used the Border Kingdoms heavily in my writing.


What writing would that be? Is any good fan fiction posted hereabouts? I've been planning a similar endeavor for some time now, but I can never seem to find the time to get started...
Ghost King Posted - 02 Jan 2009 : 23:03:27
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

One of the major aspects I enjoy about the Border Kingdoms is that they, perhaps more so than any other part of the established Realms, are designed to be easily customised for particular and/or individual home Realms campaigns -- complete with swiftly shifting borders and ever-changing rulers.


And what I think is kind of funny is how there is even a wizard NPC who is devoted to keeping the BKs the way they are.



Silly wizards and their plans of...oh...well...ah.

A wizard not bent on conquering the world. Huh, that's a new one to me. I guess it is comforting that one wizard is just trying to keep things as they are.

My world just got turned upside down.

~Ghost King~
Rinonalyrna Fathomlin Posted - 02 Jan 2009 : 19:11:59
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

One of the major aspects I enjoy about the Border Kingdoms is that they, perhaps more so than any other part of the established Realms, are designed to be easily customised for particular and/or individual home Realms campaigns -- complete with swiftly shifting borders and ever-changing rulers.


And what I think is kind of funny is how there is even a wizard NPC who is devoted to keeping the BKs the way they are.
Jakk Posted - 02 Jan 2009 : 07:21:09
I love this region as well, and I hope we see the completed series at some point. That, and the Cormyr Royal Lineage... yes, I'm starting to sound like a broken record on that matter, even to myself, so I'll shut up now.
Brynweir Posted - 02 Jan 2009 : 01:06:12
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

One of the major aspects I enjoy about the Border Kingdoms is that they, perhaps more so than any other part of the established Realms, are designed to be easily customised for particular and/or individual home Realms campaigns -- complete with swiftly shifting borders and ever-changing rulers. So there's plenty of room for changes and/or the addition of new details for your game -- especially when drawing from your own Realms history when plotting adventures in the region.




I have to agree with you there. That's one of the reasons I've also used the Border Kingdoms heavily in my writing. Felshroun is my favorite at the moment .
The Sage Posted - 02 Jan 2009 : 00:57:58
One of the major aspects I enjoy about the Border Kingdoms is that they, perhaps more so than any other part of the established Realms, are designed to be easily customised for particular and/or individual home Realms campaigns -- complete with swiftly shifting borders and ever-changing rulers. So there's plenty of room for changes and/or the addition of new details for your game -- especially when drawing from your own Realms history when plotting adventures in the region.

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