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[quote][i]Originally posted by Eilserus[/i]
[br]I recently dug up some lore snippets about Maerimydra:

Lake of Shadows - After discussions with Ed Greenwood, I learned that the route from Shadowdale to Maerimydra crossed a large subterranean lake. Hence, the lake. Details currently unknown.

On September 27, 2006 Eric Boyd said: Also note that they didn't put Maerimydra where I intended it to be in CotSQ, although the placement is reasonable. Drawing on a my conversation with Ed, I intended it to be under the Moonsea (or nearly so), as you can guess from a close reading of DDGttU. Basically the only real changes would be to make the connection via Haptooth Hill far less important and to make the infamous "sea drow" of "The Moonsea" part of this settlement (but in a radically different way than the rumors posited in "The Moonsea"). I had this weird idea at the time that the drow might have clear domes in the roof of their cavern popping up into the sea floor. So you could levitate up and stand in air on the floor of the Moonsea.

With all this in mind, I started thinking about V'elddrinnsshar, the ruined drow city of Lolth worshippers in the center of the Moondeep Sea. If Maerimydra was originally envisioned as on the southwestern shores of the Moondeep Sea, and V'elddrinnsshar was in the middle, what kind of relationship would these two cities have had?

Maerimydra was cited as the largest drow settlement in the Deep Wastes, so I was thinking perhaps this was a secondary settlement of the city. Heck, it could have originated as a stronghold of House Dhuurniv when they fell out of favor with the rest of clans in Maerimydra, or even founded by an exiled or rival faction from Maerimydra.

At any rate, we have two Lolth worshipping drow cities that were up until 1278 DR, functional cities in fairly close proximity to each other. I wonder what the relationship between the two were. "Allies", hated rivals, trading partners etc etc.

Another thing I was considering, V'elddrinnsshar was on an island and if I'm not mistaken, Ascomoids are a mobile fungus. I don't really see them swimming, so how could they get to the city? Maybe there is an aquatic version, but this almost sounds like an attack that brought the city low? Of course, a person could also say Ascomoid spores infected the entire city. Hmm, so many possibilities here.

What do you fellow scribes think?
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Eilserus	Posted - 06 Jan 2012 : 22:52:24 I recently dug up some lore snippets about Maerimydra: Lake of Shadows - After discussions with Ed Greenwood, I learned that the route from Shadowdale to Maerimydra crossed a large subterranean lake. Hence, the lake. Details currently unknown. On September 27, 2006 Eric Boyd said: Also note that they didn't put Maerimydra where I intended it to be in CotSQ, although the placement is reasonable. Drawing on a my conversation with Ed, I intended it to be under the Moonsea (or nearly so), as you can guess from a close reading of DDGttU. Basically the only real changes would be to make the connection via Haptooth Hill far less important and to make the infamous "sea drow" of "The Moonsea" part of this settlement (but in a radically different way than the rumors posited in "The Moonsea"). I had this weird idea at the time that the drow might have clear domes in the roof of their cavern popping up into the sea floor. So you could levitate up and stand in air on the floor of the Moonsea. With all this in mind, I started thinking about V'elddrinnsshar, the ruined drow city of Lolth worshippers in the center of the Moondeep Sea. If Maerimydra was originally envisioned as on the southwestern shores of the Moondeep Sea, and V'elddrinnsshar was in the middle, what kind of relationship would these two cities have had? Maerimydra was cited as the largest drow settlement in the Deep Wastes, so I was thinking perhaps this was a secondary settlement of the city. Heck, it could have originated as a stronghold of House Dhuurniv when they fell out of favor with the rest of clans in Maerimydra, or even founded by an exiled or rival faction from Maerimydra. At any rate, we have two Lolth worshipping drow cities that were up until 1278 DR, functional cities in fairly close proximity to each other. I wonder what the relationship between the two were. "Allies", hated rivals, trading partners etc etc. Another thing I was considering, V'elddrinnsshar was on an island and if I'm not mistaken, Ascomoids are a mobile fungus. I don't really see them swimming, so how could they get to the city? Maybe there is an aquatic version, but this almost sounds like an attack that brought the city low? Of course, a person could also say Ascomoid spores infected the entire city. Hmm, so many possibilities here. What do you fellow scribes think?
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Thieran	Posted - 11 May 2012 : 08:21:04 quote: Originally posted by Eilserus I recently dug up some lore snippets about Maerimydra: Lake of Shadows - After discussions with Ed Greenwood, I learned that the route from Shadowdale to Maerimydra crossed a large subterranean lake. Hence, the lake. Details currently unknown. [...] It might be worth pointing out that in the published Realms (City of the Spider Queen, to be precise), the Lake of Shadows does not seem to lie on the direct route between Shadowdale and Maerimydra: while the Lake can be reached from both the Twisted Tower and Maerimydra, it appears, judging from the maps, that you can go from Maerimydra to Twisted Towers without crossing the Lake of Shadows, the three points forming a triangle, so to speak.
Eli the Tanner	Posted - 11 May 2012 : 04:56:58 I will keep my subscibed fingers crossed but I have noted (after much searching through archives and google results) that he has been strangely silent on any questions about Maerimydra...so I suppect a NDA or he is possibly wary of revealing info that might affect his home campaign. The vigilant lore-watch shall continue.
Wooly Rupert	Posted - 11 May 2012 : 04:01:50 quote: Originally posted by Eli the Tanner It's a shame Ed never managed to answer the question...I would love to know more. Unless it's covered by an NDA, Ed will eventually answer... Lurue only knows when, but he'll get to it.
Eli the Tanner	Posted - 11 May 2012 : 01:53:08 It's a shame Ed never managed to answer the question...I would love to know more.
Faraer	Posted - 07 Jan 2012 : 03:15:48 Maerimydra -- or what became it in the sourcebooks -- was the main dark elf city in Ed's Knights of Myth Drannor campaign, home of those who ruled Shadowdale and kidnapped Sharantyr. It's an interesting question you've asked him: we know quite a bit about the differences between the original and published Realms, but not about this case.

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