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| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 04:44:43
I was just thinking about this over the last few days, mostly concerned with various Prestige Classes from a number of non-Realms sourcebooks, and here is what I've thought of so far.
Rage Mage (Complete Warrior): This would most likely occur, to my knowledge in areas like Luskan, where fighting fury and the study of magic may collide. Also may be possible in Rashemen, and (though least likely of all) in Thay. Nimbral or Halrua would probably find such practice unheard of.
As far as religious affilation, Talos would most likely be linked to the Rage Mage PrCs, since the Destroyer has many Barbarians and wizards amongst his faithful. Otherwise, possibly Gruumsh or Ilneval of the Orc Pantheon, especially with the Orog's penchant for sorcerous magic.
Legendary Captain (Stormwrack): Along the Sea of Swords and the Sword Coast, many daring leaders of sailing ships could be found with levels in the Legendary Captain PrC. Perhaps the likes of Captain Deudermont could have such if he was given official stats?
The Sea of Fallen Stars could potentially encourage such a PrC, but not as much.
Scarlet Corsair (Stormwrack): See the Legendary Captain above, Deudermont mentioning notwithstanding.
Dread Pirate (Complete Adventurer): As above.
Shadowbane Inquisitor and Stalker (Complete Adventurer): These two PrCs might likely be found amongst (Lawful or Neutral) Good-aligned faiths intent on rooting out evil, more likely amongst the faiths of Lathander, Torm, Tyr, Helm, Garl Glittergold and Berronar Truesilver. Regions may not matter as much as the faiths in question.
Nightsong Enforcer and Infiltrator (Complete Adventurer): While potentially needing renaming unless the Nightsong Guild is worked into the setting, these PrCs may fit well under established thieves guilds, such as the Fire Knives, Red Sashes, Shadow Thieves of Amn, and so forth.
Ghost-Faced Killer (Complete Adventurer): The original flavor of the PrC extolls areas of the east such as Kara-Tur, Shou and such. However, if such regional flavor is dropped, it could work well for a murderer who prefers to get the drop on their target from out of nowhere.
Concerning religious affiliation, the most likely suspects would be Bane or Bhaal, seeing as how the Black Lord intends to cause fear as well as hatred and tyranny, while the Lord of Murder strived on causing violent death.
More to come when I feel like it. |
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| MalariaMoon |
Posted - 30 Mar 2011 : 08:27:43
Cheers Galuf! |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 30 Mar 2011 : 03:21:50
quote:
Originally posted by MalariaMoon
Where does the Ashworn Dragoon come from? I'm running a Chessentan campaign and could make use of it.
Sandstorm; an enviroment-based D&D accessory. In fact, I should just as well label what all the PrCs come from...  |
| MalariaMoon |
Posted - 29 Mar 2011 : 18:37:31
Where does the Ashworn Dragoon come from? I'm running a Chessentan campaign and could make use of it. |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 29 Mar 2011 : 17:21:18
Daggerspell Mages & Shapers (Complete Adventurer): Likely an order of roguish spellcasters, either belonging to a thieves' guild or more likely affiliated with the Harpers.
Foculan Lyricist (Complete Adventurer): Also likely an affiliation with Harpers, or perhaps found in druidic communities or cities like Cormyr or Silverymoon.
Well, at least for all the books I have, I think that pretty much covers it.  |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 08 Mar 2011 : 03:11:58
Bear Warrior (Complete Warrior): Most likely to be used by the berserkers of Rashemen, especially from a berserker lodge that idolizes bears. Fyodor could likely have been a Bear Warrior, for example.
Entropomancer (Complete Divine): Likely a worshipper of Shar focused on destroying all life.
Gray Guard (Complete Scoundrel): Likely acting as FBI or CIA-type agents of a church who intends to root out evil wherever it may be in a society. Most likely found in large cities where corruption is possible but orders of paladins may exist. Most common faiths with Gray Guards in their ranks include Gaerdal Ironhand, Helm, Torm or Tyr.
Order of the Bow Initiate (Complete Warrior): The Order of Bow could possibly be placed within an area close to nature and attracting archers, such as Cormyr or Silverymoon.
Radiant Servant of Pelor (Complete Divine): Substitute Pelor with Amaunator, Horus-Re or Lathander.
Rainbow Servant (Complete Divine): Most likely found within jungle areas such as Chult or Maztica.
Shining Blade of Heironeous (Complete Divine): Replace Heironeous with either Torm or Tyr.
Ultimate Magus (Complete Mage): Most likely found amongst arcane spellcasters in Aglarond. The Simbul could likely have levels in this PrC herself. Silverymoon and Waterdeep may possibly produce an Ultimate Magus as well, as could Halruaa or Nimbral. |
| Knight of the Gate |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 04:42:49
quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate
FWIW, I have used the following PrCs heavily in my Bloodstone/Demonlands games:
Pious Templar (Complete Divine)- elite temple guardians and bodyguards to important clergy as well as Heavy foot troops of the churches of Torm, Helm, Kelemvor (which I have taking part in cleansing the area of both Demons and Undead),the Red Knight (worship of whom was brought to the region by mercenaries hired by Gareth Dragonsbane to help clear Vaasa), and Tyr. Mostly paired with Paladin, but also makes for exceptional Fighter/Clerics.
Hospitaller (Complete Divine)- Heavy Cavalry/Combat Medics in service to the churches of the Triad, Helm, and the Red Knight. Again, pairs very, very well with Paladin.
Shaaryan Hunter (Shining South) while this *is* a FR PrC, I have repurposed it for the Nar tribesmen.
Hunter of the Dead (complete warrior)- for the non-paladin Kelemvorites in Vaasa
Justicar (Complete Warrior) for a number of itinerant Damaran 'Wardens' who travel the vast expanses of slightly-populated forest, especially in the northeast; they were especially useful to bring lower-level PC's back alive to a local lord that wanted 'to have a word' with the troublemakers.
Knight-Protector (complete warrior) Perfect for Helmites- paired with the Knight class, makes for a great defensive character; also used for bodyguards for nobles and merchant-princes.
Nature's Warrior (Complete Warrior) I used this for a few of the Circle of Leth's members; namely those that were less contemplative, and more given to 'direct action' to solve problems. They were the first to fall to the Blight, and a Blightspawned Druid/Nature's Warrior/Blightlord is actually pretty darn scary to even a high-level party.
Pretty inventive there, if I do say so myself.
As far as the last quote, I'd say that or maybe switch Blightlord for Blighter, and you'd have something interesting, if maybe more geared for a lower-level party.
Glad you enjoyed, Galuf!
As for the Druid/NaW build, they had one (or 2 for later encounters) levels of Blightlord, mostly as fluff. The game idea was that they were the front line of Dun-tharos' defenses against the Rotting Man, and thus were some of the first of its defenders to be blighted themselves; most of them became mindless killing machines, but 3 of them were individuals who had a dark side prior to being blighted and 'went with it', becoming Blightlords rather than merely Blightspawn. They were always surrounded by a bodyguard of blighted Ranger/Nentyar Hunters (another UnE PrC), with each Druid leading an elite strike team with certain objectives, but carte blanche in achieving them. The PC's came to fear and eventually hate them, (and particularly their leader, a volodni Drd14/NaW2/Blightlord2 with his Half-Fiend Dire Bear companion), since they either escaped (Word of Recall, party of one!) or were resurrected repeatedly by the Rotting Man.
The plethora of Paladin/Knightly builds was occasioned by the fact that there was very nearly a shooting war betwixt Damara and Impiltur, and the (mostly LG) PC's were caught in the middle, and I wanted the different factions to have significantly different troop types, despite being 2 nations dominated by Paladins. |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 04:19:27
quote:
Originally posted by Knight of the Gate
FWIW, I have used the following PrCs heavily in my Bloodstone/Demonlands games:
Pious Templar (Complete Divine)- elite temple guardians and bodyguards to important clergy as well as Heavy foot troops of the churches of Torm, Helm, Kelemvor (which I have taking part in cleansing the area of both Demons and Undead),the Red Knight (worship of whom was brought to the region by mercenaries hired by Gareth Dragonsbane to help clear Vaasa), and Tyr. Mostly paired with Paladin, but also makes for exceptional Fighter/Clerics.
Hospitaller (Complete Divine)- Heavy Cavalry/Combat Medics in service to the churches of the Triad, Helm, and the Red Knight. Again, pairs very, very well with Paladin.
Shaaryan Hunter (Shining South) while this *is* a FR PrC, I have repurposed it for the Nar tribesmen.
Hunter of the Dead (complete warrior)- for the non-paladin Kelemvorites in Vaasa
Justicar (Complete Warrior) for a number of itinerant Damaran 'Wardens' who travel the vast expanses of slightly-populated forest, especially in the northeast; they were especially useful to bring lower-level PC's back alive to a local lord that wanted 'to have a word' with the troublemakers.
Knight-Protector (complete warrior) Perfect for Helmites- paired with the Knight class, makes for a great defensive character; also used for bodyguards for nobles and merchant-princes.
Nature's Warrior (Complete Warrior) I used this for a few of the Circle of Leth's members; namely those that were less contemplative, and more given to 'direct action' to solve problems. They were the first to fall to the Blight, and a Blightspawned Druid/Nature's Warrior/Blightlord is actually pretty darn scary to even a high-level party.
Pretty inventive there, if I do say so myself.
As far as the last quote, I'd say that or maybe switch Blightlord for Blighter, and you'd have something interesting, if maybe more geared for a lower-level party. |
| Knight of the Gate |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 03:55:35
FWIW, I have used the following PrCs heavily in my Bloodstone/Demonlands games:
Pious Templar (Complete Divine)- elite temple guardians and bodyguards to important clergy as well as Heavy foot troops of the churches of Torm, Helm, Kelemvor (which I have taking part in cleansing the area of both Demons and Undead),the Red Knight (worship of whom was brought to the region by mercenaries hired by Gareth Dragonsbane to help clear Vaasa), and Tyr. Mostly paired with Paladin, but also makes for exceptional Fighter/Clerics.
Hospitaller (Complete Divine)- Heavy Cavalry/Combat Medics in service to the churches of the Triad, Helm, and the Red Knight. Again, pairs very, very well with Paladin.
Shaaryan Hunter (Shining South) while this *is* a FR PrC, I have repurposed it for the Nar tribesmen.
Hunter of the Dead (complete warrior)- for the non-paladin Kelemvorites in Vaasa
Justicar (Complete Warrior) for a number of itinerant Damaran 'Wardens' who travel the vast expanses of slightly-populated forest, especially in the northeast; they were especially useful to bring lower-level PC's back alive to a local lord that wanted 'to have a word' with the troublemakers.
Knight-Protector (complete warrior) Perfect for Helmites- paired with the Knight class, makes for a great defensive character; also used for bodyguards for nobles and merchant-princes.
Nature's Warrior (Complete Warrior) I used this for a few of the Circle of Leth's members; namely those that were less contemplative, and more given to 'direct action' to solve problems. They were the first to fall to the Blight, and a Blightspawned Druid/Nature's Warrior/Blightlord is actually pretty darn scary to even a high-level party.
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| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 02:00:53
Ashworm Dragoon (Sandstorm): Such an organization - and Ashworms - more than likely exist in the Plains of Purple Dust and are Chessentan in origin.
Knight of the Pearl (Stormwrack): The order of the Pearl could possibly be an organization of paladins in a maritime area dealing with aquatic operations. Perhaps Aventernus is a newly-appointed demigod aligned with the Triad who watches over coastal or sea communities? The DM can decide how this can work.
Lord of the Tides (Sandstorm): This PrC would likely be taken up by residents of the Anauroch desert as well as those from Zakhara.
Rimefire Witch: Replace with a non-evil-aligned deity of cold regions, like Ulutiu, or powerful Outsider dealing with cold.
Sea Witch (Stormwrack): Umberlee would likely have Sea Witches amongst her worshippers, and may have levels in the PrC herself, probably in place of 8 Wizard levels and 2 levels of cleric or fighter. Deep Sashelas or Valkur may have the occasional Sea Witch as well who would be more benign in intent.
Stormcaster (Stormwrack): This PrC is most likely affiliated with deities such as Talos or Umberlee. Some Air or Water Genasi or D'Hini might find this PrC appealing as well, seeing their elemental backgrounds being congruent with storms.
Walker in the Waste (Sandstorm): Probably come from clerics of Baelros, the aspect of Talos.
Wavekeeper (Stormwrack): This is likely a PrC utilized by clerics or druids of Deep Sashelas, Ishtishia, Umberlee or Valkur. Racially, while some land-borne humanoids may occasionally adopt this PrCs, most Wavekeepers are likely Aquatic Elves, Merfolk, Sahuagin, Tritons or Water Genasi.
Winterhaunt of Iborighu (Frostburn): Auril is the best substitution for Iborighu, though change the alignment requirement to allowing Lawful Evil alignment instead of Chaotic Neutral.
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| Knight of the Gate |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 01:46:19
As for Knight of the Chalice, I have many (if not most) of the Knights of Imphras II using that PrC, mostly since I feel that the Triadic knight should be reserved for the most pious of the order- those that have been specially chosen for greatness by all three gods of the Triad. |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 01 Mar 2011 : 01:08:16
quote:
Originally posted by Kilvan
I planned to make a Paladin/Rogue of Hoar with levels in Shadowbane Inquisitor sometime soon. Some kind of Batman-like character.
Sounds like a good idea. |
| Kilvan |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 21:09:14
quote:
Originally posted by Galuf the Dwarf
Shadowbane Inquisitor and Stalker: These two PrCs might likely be found amongst (Lawful or Neutral) Good-aligned faiths intent on rooting out evil, more likely amongst the faiths of Lathander, Torm, Tyr, Helm, Garl Glittergold and Berronar Truesilver. Regions may not matter as much as the faiths in question.
I planned to make a Paladin/Rogue of Hoar with levels in Shadowbane Inquisitor sometime soon. Some kind of Batman-like character. |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 19:24:05
Just to note: I'm mostly focusing on PrCs that may require affiliation with an order or have a more specific flavor.
Knight of the Chalice (Complete Warrior): This PrC could fit as a religious order intent on slaying fiends, likely an order that worships Bahamut, Torm or Tyr.
Luckstealer (Races of the Wild): Make Dallah Thaun possibly into either a deity or aspect of another (quasi-)divine being. For instance, Dallah Thaun could be an aspect of Beshaba or Shar worshiped amongst some Halflings and is rumored to have once been a part of Yondalla, or could possibly be the guise of a powerful outsider such as a Slaad or fiend prone to keeping secrets and encouraging greed or misfortune.
Ravager (Complete Warrior): In this case, the Ravager PrC would likely be affiliated with either Cyric, Garagos (though only CN and CE alignment), or Urdlen.
Runesmith (Races of Stone): With the Shield Dwarves generally distrusting arcane magic and such magic unheard of amongst Artic Dwarves or Wild Dwarves, Runesmiths are more common amongst Gold Dwarves and - most of all - Duergar.
Urban Soul (Races of Destiny): Change Urbanus for another deity who deals extensively with cities or commerce, such as Siamorphe or Waukeen. |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 19:04:56
Nah- but my bard is!! (And yes, he's a drow- but he's what I call a "battledancer". Uses a bard/Dervish/Spelldancer mix.) |
| Alisttair |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 17:06:03
Just don't go with any Dervish = Drizzt stuff. He ain't dervish  . |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 16:53:54
Ah, the Enlightened Fist!! I love that PrC. I actually made a D&D version of Spidey using it. Works great if you substitute sonic energy for the fire/electric ability. He's currently running around in Waterdeep.....  |
| Galuf the Dwarf |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 16:43:55
quote:
Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
What about Seekers of the Song or Sublime Chords? I could see a few of those among the Harpers. Particularly the ones under Khelben that became the Moonstars. Or perhaps some elves from Evermeet.
Dervishes seem to fit nicely among some of the nomadic halflings of Luiren(sp?), or possibly among the Bedines of Anauroch.
Well, I was planning to get to that eventually; like I said at the end of the post: "More to come when I feel like it."
Anyways, here's some more.
Enlightened Fist (Complete Arcane): This PrC most likely fits in with monastic orders that often dabble in arcane magic, such as the Order of the Shining Hand or the Monks of the Dark Moon.
Fatespinner (Complete Arcane): This PrC would most likely be utilized by arcane spellcasters who worship Beshaba or Tymora. In fact, perhaps either of those two deities themselves have levels in such?
Fortune's Friend (Complete Scoundrel): Like the Fatespinner, this is a PrC more in line with the deities of fortune or fate, though more so with Tymora than Beshaba.
Geometer (Complete Arcane): This PrC would likely fit well with a deity involving writing, such as Deneir, Dugmaren Brightmantle, Labelas Enoreth, or Oghma.
Malconvoker (Complete Scoundrel): This could be a rare individual in the Realms, perhaps from areas with past ties to cavorting with fiends such as Narfel. One possible famous character in the Realms with Malconvoker levels, however, could be Cadderly Bonaduce, given the Chosen of Deneir's tendencies to communicate with fiends while doing such for the good of all. |
| Alystra Illianniis |
Posted - 28 Feb 2011 : 06:22:02
What about Seekers of the Song or Sublime Chords? I could see a few of those among the Harpers. Particularly the ones under Khelben that became the Moonstars. Or perhaps some elves from Evermeet.
Dervishes seem to fit nicely among some of the nomadic halflings of Luiren(sp?), or possibly among the Bedines of Anauroch. |
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