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tauster Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 10:21:52
i am looking for songs or poems from our world that can be used as fluffy background for faerunian religions.

after reading faiths & avatars (and the other two 2e accessories), i was kind of dissapointed that each religions background is limited to a quite small dogma - section.

to my mind, there should be more of that: different schools of thought within each religion (so a dm can stage some internal conflict), maybe some example- prayers, more legends from the history of the faith, etc...

i know that it would go beyond the scope of these books, so i started to look for myself.
two examples of poetry come below, i´d be very happy if you could provide more fluff! :)


i found this one while watching mtv; it´s the lyrics from a techno/dance clip (blank & jones: "caress the hardest heart"
quote:

Caress the hardest heart (x2)

Let the morning sun proclaim
The lights of the world
Let the golden day unfurl
On every wave
On every hill

Each angered fist uncurl
Caress the hardest heart
Stir the sweeping earth
Each stone
Each blade of grass

The soul of the world
Ignites a brand new day
Let the morning sun proclaim
A brand new start
Caress the hardest heart

Caress the hardest heart
[Repeat all verses]

[Last verse]
The soul of the world
Ignite a brand new day
A brand new start
A brand new way


when i first heard that words i was kind of spellbound; normally, i almost immidiately switch channels when there´s that kind of "boom-boom- music", but that one... i think it has LATHANDER painted all over it...
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Bookwyrm Posted - 03 Dec 2003 : 17:01:42
Being old enough has nothing to do with it. In this case, they're appropriate -- as you said, it gives the singers more determination. I just figured there'd probably be people offended by them no matter what.
Lord Rad Posted - 03 Dec 2003 : 10:09:33
Nice! I like it!

The asterisked words give it that extra edge of determination too in a way (if youre old enough to substitute them for words of course )
Bookwyrm Posted - 03 Dec 2003 : 07:07:41
Hmm, I don't know how this ever escaped my notice. Somehow I missed it, though. Sorry, William.

On the bright side, the reason I dug up this scroll was to post a Scottish-style war song that I happen to have a link to (RealAudio format). It's called March of Cambreadth, and it's performed by Heather Alexander.

I assume she wrote it, and it doesn't say otherwise on her website. However, one review of the CD it's on (Midsummer) said that the song was "March of Cambreadth like you've never heard it before!" So I don't know.

I found this song recently (Sunday night, in fact), because it was on a Baen Free Library CD I got, in the (excellent) book There Will Be Dragons, by John Ringo. The song was featured in the book, as it had in his earlier work (also excellent), Hell's Faire (Legacy of the Alldenata, Book Four).

(No, I'm not working for Baen. It's called word of mouth keyboard. Besides, since Alaundo dumped Sage's work on me for the rest of the week, I might as well earn the extra duties, hmm? Especially since he's not likely to come through with that overtime I requested. )



PAUSE

Okay, the opportunity to take a dig at our favorite librarian was too good to pass up. Besides, it was relevant. Slightly.

I promise, I'll lay off the non-FR/D&D-related hyperlinks for a while.




Anyway, the lyrics are on the site, along with the actual music, but I'm posting them here as well. I think that this would make a good song for a warrior of Tempus or any allied deities (Red Knight, Uthgar, etc.). It brings to mind a forced march, or even a charge. I can also imagine a bard using this to aid his/her party-mates in battle.

Obviously, the words replaced by *s aren't family-friendly. However (unlike the word "Calim****e"), these words aren't recognized as such on here, so I took the liberty of changing that.

Axes flash, broadsword swing,
Shining armour's piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield,
Fight Those ******** till They Yield
Midnight mare and blood red roan,
Fight to Keep this Land Your Own
Sound the horn and call the cry,
How Many of Them Can We Make Die!

Follow orders as you're told,
Make Their Yellow Blood Run Cold
Fight until you die or drop,
A Force Like Ours is Hard to Stop
Close your mind to stress and pain,
Fight till You're No Longer Sane
Let not one **** cur pass by,
How Many of Them Can We Make Die!

Guard your women and children well,
Send These ******** Back to Hell
We'll teach them the ways of war,
They Won't Come Here Any More
Use your shield and use your head,
Fight till Every One is Dead
Raise the flag up to the sky,
How Many of Them Can We Make Die!

Dawn has broke, the time has come,
Move Your Feet to a Marching Drum
We'll win the war and pay the toll,
We'll Fight as One in Heart and Soul
Midnight mare and blood red roan,
Fight to Keep this Land Your Own
Sound the horn and call the cry,
How Many of Them Can We Make Die!

Axes flash, broadsword swing,
Shining armour's piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield,
Fight Those ******** till They Yield
Midnight mare and blood red roan,
Fight to Keep this Land Your Own
Sound the horn and call the cry,
How Many of Them Can We Make Die!



What do you think? I find it excellent. A lot more bloodthirsty than my usual fare, but it can really get the blood stirring. You'll need the music to get the proper pace, though.

She's got others up on her site, and I've listened to a few. I think she'd be a gold mine for people who want to use this sort of thing.
William of Waterdeep Posted - 02 Oct 2003 : 00:50:40
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

Which ones are you talking about?



Any that you have sound files of.I can convert them if need be.Would
make good music for pc mods.of BG,BG2,etc.
Jander Sunstar Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 16:28:13
ý think it is enough and everyone got the issue but one more won't hurt ha? this is manowar again this song is one of my favourites. ý think ýt is a very good war song.

Battle Hymns

By moonlight we ride
Ten thousands side by side
With swords drawn held high
Our whips and armours shine
Hail to thee our infantry
Still brave beyond the grave
All sworn the eternal vow
The time to strike is now

Kill, kill, Oh !
Kill, kill, Oh !
Kill, kill, Oh !
Kill, kill, Oh !

Gone are the days when freedom shone
Now blood and steel meet bone
In the light of the battle's way
The sands of time will shade
How proud our soldiers stand
With mace and chain in hand
Sound of charge into glory ride
Over the top of the vanguished pride

Victory, victory, Oh !
Victory, victory, Oh !
Victory, victory, Oh !
Victory, victory, Oh !

Sound of charge into glory ride
Over the top of the anguished pride
By moonlight we ride
Tenthousand side by side

Kill, kill, Oh !
Kill, kill, Oh !
Kill, kill, Oh !
Kill, kill, Oh !

ok any interested for more can search in yahoo or http://www.darklyrics.com would be enough
Jander Sunstar Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 16:18:29
The Wind Of Mayhem

Praying to the wind to return
Chant the heat of infernal lightning
Gaze at the sky and its poisoned clouds
Listen for the sound of thunder

Now the tide has changed...

Stand on the cliffsedge alone in the night
My hair is blowing freely in the Wind
Fell so cold yet my yearn give me heat
Raise my head to the sky and breath in

Now the time is right...

It brings us curse, lust, hate, damnation and death
Wail through darkness and bring evil
It squall it screams
Cyric is present but yet he is unseen

THE WIND OF MAYHEM

can it be ok for cyric or maybe talos? this is black metal (bathory) so ý cut satanas and wrote cyric. isn't he a kind of satan?
Bookwyrm Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 07:21:36
Which ones are you talking about?
William of Waterdeep Posted - 01 Oct 2003 : 00:39:39
Before Cyric asks;Are there any songs about Cyric?

No really,I like some of these.Mostly Scottish and Celtic?I'll
have to check into this.Has anyone seen any Mp3s or wavs in any of
these or others?If anyone finds a link,would you post it??Thanks.
Jander Sunstar Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 16:11:09
thanks
ý have some lyrics of real bands which are quite suitable for a bard. for me it is very hard to play a bard that sings and reads poems. here is one if anyone is interested:

Lament Of A Minstrel

For the moon and the sun
and for the winds I've sung,
hear how the lovely tones dance
upon my tongue.
I've gazed upon the Orion
for oh so many nights,
astounded by the beauty of the dark
and sparkling sky.

I'm a lonely minstrel,
a traveller on a road to nowhere
I sing a song to lighten the day
so come along as I walk away.

The lute's the only friend
I've got by my side,
who's shared by moments
as I laughed and cried.
I comfort my heart
with a jar of wine,
in the memory of love that once was mine

this is falconer's. there are so many resourses in the metal pool. believe me
Bookwyrm Posted - 30 Sep 2003 : 05:16:36
Not bad, Jander. Not bad at all.
Jander Sunstar Posted - 29 Sep 2003 : 22:54:35
Elvenpath

Hearing music from the deepest forest
Songs as a seduction of sirens
The elf-folk is calling me

Tapio, Bearking, Ruler of the forest
Mielikki, Bluecloak, Healer of the ill and sad
Open the gate and let me follow the uncarven path

The way to the lands
Where as a hero I stand
The path where Beauty met the Beast
Elvenpath

It's the honesty of these worlds
Ruled by magic and mighty swords
That makes my soul long for the past
Elvenpath

ýt's nightwish's. ý like this song. can be sung by a bard
Jander Sunstar Posted - 29 Sep 2003 : 22:43:21
Gods of war I call You. My sword is by my side.
I seek a life of honor, free from all false pride.
I will crack the whip with a bold mighty hail.
Cover me with death if I should ever fail
how is this one for a prayer to tempus? it is a part of a song of manowar. songs name is warior's prayer it fits quite well
Bookwyrm Posted - 29 Sep 2003 : 15:42:13
Last night I did a search again, and finally someone's put up the lyrics to these songs. Now you don't have to depend on my tin ear for the words (which, needless to say, I got wrong).

Unfortunately, Tauster hasn't shown up for a while, so I don't know if this is going to be of any use . . . .



Ancient Souls

Walking through the mist, she listens with her heart,
Searching for somone to touch her soul.
Shadows up ahead, hiding in the trees,
She’s young but she feels so very old.

Sounds are running less--the silence of the night,
Blend and mix together all around.
Star crossed lovers pass, not seeing through the dark,
To ancient lands where souls run aground.

She’s lost upon the road, her ancient soul;
She’s searching for someone to touch her soul.
The other love part of her soul, this treasure is her goal.
Wandering among love’s hidden shores.

Her heart is old, it's light is lost;
She wants to be complete at any cost.
She wandered the mists, searched every road;
She wants someone to share her load.

One is very old for the wandering of souls,
We’ve searched through many lives upon the earth.
When we find our way, we’ll mist the world away
With the union of two very ancient souls.

She’s lost upon the road, her ancient soul;
She’s searching for someone to touch her soul.
The other love part of her soul, this treasure is her goal.
Wandering among love’s hidden shores.



It's unfortunate that I can't really give you the tune to go with it. It doesn't sound the same without it. Even as poetry, it looses some.
The Sage Posted - 31 Jul 2003 : 02:31:46
That should be enough information. I'll look through the catalogue when I get the opportunity.

Bookwyrm Posted - 30 Jul 2003 : 17:24:14
It's called Celtic Mystique. It has some traditional Celtic songs, like the Irish Homes of Donegal and the Scottish Loch Lommand (which is where we get the lines "You take the high road/And I'll take the low road.") It also has some others, like the Ancient Souls I mentioned, plus another favorite of mine, Circle of Stone (about Stonehenge and the feel of the magic of history about it). Then there's also McIan of Glencoe, about one of the bloodiest battles in Scottish history.
The Sage Posted - 28 Jul 2003 : 06:29:20
I can definitely see this as a tribute to Sune, and even to a lesser extent...Savras. It does contain elements of fate, however I think it is more inclined towards love and fulfillment than anything else. Perhaps if we did have the lyrics to the entire song, we could make a better judgment. I know of several websites that detail lyrics for nearly every musical genre there is. However you need to be registered to view the catalogues, since the temptation to copy lyrics is to great.

Can I at least know the name of the CD?.

Bookwyrm Posted - 28 Jul 2003 : 03:20:23
There's a song I know of called "Ancient Souls" that's about a girl searching for her soulmate through many lifetimes. Unforunately, I never found the lyrics for it, and on top of that, I can't remember the words at the moment. I've got the CD at home, but that's just where I'm not.

However, I remeber a sort of whispered part in the middle:

Her heart is old
It's (something -- late?), it's lost
And she just needs to be complete at any cost.
She wanders the mists,
Searching everwhere
For the one to share her love.

Anyway, it's something like that. I've got a tin ear, though, so I easily miss words in music. However, how do you feel about this one for Sune? Or even Savras, since you could find elements of fate in it? (Sune's got teh stronger claim, though.)
The Sage Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 16:20:49
Savras, the All Seeing, is the deity of Fate, Knowledge, Law, and Magic (spells).

While I can see attributing this to Tymora, Savras would indeed be a stretch. It really does not seem appropriate. The right to choose really goes against fate, since fate is categorised as something that is already pre-determined. There isn't much room for choice in there.

NightElf Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 15:44:13
Tymora could be a possibility, after all, what could have happened had you taken the other route. We all know what forests are like. I think it's got more to do with the Fate element though... Who's the god(des) of Fate?
tauster Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 15:40:57
that´s what i thought when i unearthed it.
i remembered it somehow different.

so what god(des) do we attribute this fine piece of literature to?
or do we simply forget about it?

- it´s all about fate. i thought savras had fate in his domain...
- there´s plenty of wood- silvanus or the other forest- gods?
- it´s about choice. hasn´t tymore got something to do with choosing? but then again, i miss the lucky parts...
The Sage Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 15:32:55
Poetry critic Lawrence Thompson sees this poem as more of an 'assertion of individualism'.

NightElf Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 15:25:59
Yes, you have a point there, especially the last few lines:

quote:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less travelled by
And that has made all the difference.


It sounds like one of those things with a hidden meaning, something like "It's your choices that make you who you are" or when you think "If I'd taken the other road, what would everything be like now"
The Sage Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 15:19:57
Perhaps because it has less to do with travel, than with the importance of choice.

tauster Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 15:10:10
i found the robert frost- poem i was thinking of...

The road not taken

Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as i could
To where it bent in the undergrowth.

Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear.
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same.

And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way lead on to way
I doubted if i should ever come back.

I shall be telling this with a sight
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-
I took the one less travelled by
And that has made all the difference.


since it has something to do with travelling or wandering, forests and is remotely related to discovery (the way i understand it- correct me if i´m wrong!), i thought it could be used for shaundakul, but i´m not shure... to me it doesn´t feel like shaundakul, at least not the way the other two feel like tha morningloard and the lady of beauty & love...
The Sage Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 14:01:15
Oh...if it's something like that, then don't worry. I understand completely .

Bookwyrm Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 13:56:46
Um . . . maybe. I'll have to go over them again and see if I really want to subject myself to public embarrassment.
The Sage Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 13:30:17
So, do we get to read these 'new' lyrics?.

Bookwyrm Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 13:20:51
I've had this movie on my mind for a while now. I recently came across an old rewrite of the lyrics I did years ago, where I added some more lines. Then I found the actual tape, and played it for my niece. (I was getting pretty tired of Mulan playing over and over. ) She liked Mulan better, probably because it was funnier to her. Still, she likes dragons. In fact, she was clapping and saying "Yay dragon! Yay!" when the Evil Bad Guy dragon Bryagh was getting the upper hand over Sir Owen.
The Sage Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 12:57:55
Interesting. Thanks for the links Bookwyrm.

I'll look over it tonight.



Bookwyrm Posted - 27 Jul 2003 : 12:52:51
You've never seen it? ::sigh:: This younger generation . . . .

You can download the particular song here. It's a .wav file 1MB in size.

Going out to the rest of that page will lead you to a synopsis of the old cartoon movie, as well as some pictures. There's a link to the video version of the title sequence, but I didn't bother with it. The music's what's important; the animation isn't all that spectacular. (Think the old Scooby-Doo and the like.)

However, it's a very good story. It's based on the semi-famous book The Dragon and the George by Gorden R. Dickson. It's not the same, though; it's also based on a non-novel fantasy, also called The Flight of Dragons. It was mainly an exploration of how dragons might have existed. The movie goes through some of the explanations, like why the dragon needs a hoard of gold, and why they breathed fire (which is connected to how such large creatures could fly; if you download the video version, you might guess what it is).

The above page carries two links for possibly getting the movie itself. Like I said, it's animation isn't the best; plus it's 80s-era cheesy in several places. But I grew up with this tape. I like it. (Plus, it's got James Earl Jones as the Evil Bad Wizard. And I love the "incantations" at the end.)

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