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Dargoth Posted - 20 May 2006 : 15:03:04
According to a Guy over at Enworld the following adventure is in Dungeon 137

Man Forever
by Jason Nelson-Brown
Lord Chauve-Souris gave up the adventuring life for that of a noble, yet something still haunts him from those early glory days. Rumors that he’s actually a vampire have set the region on edge, and civil unrest now threatens a revolt that could devastate southern Impiltur. A Forgotten Realms adventure for 16th-level characters
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George Krashos Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 02:27:09
"Kirk" and "Langstrom"? Mind you, the Paizo Boards have just confirmed that the adventure had some huge nods to "Batman", most of which got ironed out. All Eric and I did was change some names and make it Impiltur-compliant. Mot really much in the way of Impiltur lore in the adventure - but it is an adventure, not a feature article - and I'm curious as to why exactly he picked Impiltur for this submission. Maybe because it was pretty much a 3E blank slate before the current Dragon article.

-- George Krashos
KnightErrantJR Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 01:51:21
Nevermind . . . I finally got it . . . I'm going to beat my head against a wall for a while. And me, of all people, not to pick up on it sooner. I don't think I want to know what some of the other names were that were changed . . . but I have a horrid feeling that the Ettin's two heads might have been "Kirk" and "Langstrom."

I'm not sure I can finish reading this one now that all of that occured to me.
KnightErrantJR Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 01:34:59
I have only read about halfway into this adventure, and it seems good . . . but . . . how do you find a young waif in Rashemen that is trained as a monk? I'm wondering if maybe the original draft had more backstory on this character . . .
George Krashos Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 01:10:40
quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

Impiltur seems to be getting a lot of attention lately. And you know what? I'm loving it.



You're loving it? Imagine how I feel ...

-- George Krashos
Mazrim_Taim Posted - 11 Jul 2006 : 13:36:27
Impiltur seems to be getting a lot of attention lately. And you know what? I'm loving it.
EvilKnight Posted - 11 Jul 2006 : 05:16:21
I got my copy a few days ago. I went ahead and indexed it for the Danali Index. It can be found here:

http://home.indy.rr.com/evilknight/

Approximately 714KB. It is under the third tab under mags. Deselect everything else and initialize the index to browse though subject entries. Sorry for broken links. I had to delete a few things to make room. Having only 5MB of space sucks.

EvilKnight
George Krashos Posted - 10 Jul 2006 : 08:22:17
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Haven't read through the adventure yet, but the main character is now called Lord Samulbrar. I also noticed that the herald mentioned in the adventure is noted as being named Royal Herald Rune Tabard (Gabra Robardon), which led me to wonder if this name was also "herald-ified" to make it fit with the herald information in Power of Faerun.



Yes. (And herald info in Code of the Harpers.) Lots of little changes along these lines. Lord Samulbrar is now a major landownaer with tenant farmers, not a feudal lord, as well.

--Eric



Yeah, we did get to tinker with the adventure nomenclature-wise. Eric made it all work and viola, one adventure for the Realms without lots of french-sounding names. At the very least we made it gel with the info in my Impiltur article re the system of government in the kingdom, as Eric alludes to.

-- George Krashos
Chosen of Bane Posted - 09 Jul 2006 : 12:32:30
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

At least its not a trend strictly limited to the Realms . . . I don't want to ruin anything for anyone, but there was a beholder villain that was disguised in an adventure that had the most rediculous first name ever . . . but I'll not give away anything else for fear of ruining someone elses fun if they play these adventures.



I have to agree there. I remember when playing the adventure you're talking about we, as players, knew what the guy really was well before our characters should have because of the name...

Assuming of course you're talking about a certain adventure path that I'm thinking of...
ericlboyd Posted - 09 Jul 2006 : 11:56:08
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Haven't read through the adventure yet, but the main character is now called Lord Samulbrar. I also noticed that the herald mentioned in the adventure is noted as being named Royal Herald Rune Tabard (Gabra Robardon), which led me to wonder if this name was also "herald-ified" to make it fit with the herald information in Power of Faerun.



Yes. (And herald info in Code of the Harpers.) Lots of little changes along these lines. Lord Samulbrar is now a major landownaer with tenant famrers, not a feudal lord, as well.

--Eric
KnightErrantJR Posted - 09 Jul 2006 : 07:46:51
Haven't read through the adventure yet, but the main character is now called Lord Samulbrar. I also noticed that the herald mentioned in the adventure is noted as being named Royal Herald Rune Tabard (Gabra Robardon), which led me to wonder if this name was also "herald-ified" to make it fit with the herald information in Power of Faerun.
Dargoth Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 02:38:59
both the Dungeon and Dragon issues oare out (2 guy over at enworld have them)
ericlboyd Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 02:32:52
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

We'll wait, then.

What irks me about the bad names is -- apart from why someone with such a poor feel for the setting wants to write there -- how easily fixable it is. It's like when expensive productions such as movies and computer games don't bother to bring in someone literate to quickly look over text.



And sometimes, someone does get to look things over. And voila! Read the actual adventure and not the cover copy printed months in advance and I think you'll be happier. ;-)

--Eric (& George)
Ergdusch Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 16:41:50
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

The Realms does have a goddess of love and beauty who shares the name of this man, though.



My best friend named his child that way. I did not point that out to him as of yet. And I doubt it will be able to live up to it's name - since it's a boy! Than again - surgery nowadays makes a lot possible.
Faraer Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 13:54:09
We'll wait, then.

What irks me about the bad names is -- apart from why someone with such a poor feel for the setting wants to write there -- how easily fixable it is. It's like when expensive productions such as movies and computer games don't bother to bring in someone literate to quickly look over text.
George Krashos Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 03:39:24
It'll be interesting to see what this adventure's final form will be, name-wise that is.

-- George Krashos
KnightErrantJR Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 10:43:36
Not yet . . . I'm a subscriber, and it still takes forever before I see the issues after they ship. I'll let you know as soon as I get it though.
Dargoth Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 07:50:48
Anyone have it yet PAzio say they shipped the issue to subscribers on 26th of June
Asgetrion Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 11:03:20
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

I would add that "Chauve-Souris" can be translated directly to "bald-mouse"



Maybe this guy was laughed at in France, and he used a portal to escape ridicule to Impiltur
KnightErrantJR Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 03:11:35
At least its not a trend strictly limited to the Realms . . . I don't want to ruin anything for anyone, but there was a beholder villain that was disguised in an adventure that had the most rediculous first name ever . . . but I'll not give away anything else for fear of ruining someone elses fun if they play these adventures.
Skeptic Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 02:29:22
I would add that "Chauve-Souris" can be translated directly to "bald-mouse"
Swordsage Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 02:15:54
Chauve-Souris for Impiltur? You bet it stuck out like a sore thumb.

The Swordsage
Bakra Posted - 02 Jun 2006 : 13:04:40
quote:
Originally posted by Swordsage

quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic


Chauve-Souris is the french word for Bat. What an original name for a vampire



I sure wish authors wouldn't use real-world language for names and places in the Realms. They always seem to stick out like the proverbial IMHO and don't seem "realmsian" at all.

The Swordsage




You are telling me 'Chauve-Souris' stuck out like a proverbial sore thumb? I don't mind the occasional real-world langauge being used for names because the chances of me noticing is somewhere nil. And if I do notice then I think cool, those four years of college level french paid off.
martynq Posted - 31 May 2006 : 09:09:42
As far as I can tell, spelling things backwards was one of Gary Gygax's (and those he played with) favourite ways to generate names: Zagyg Yragerne, etc.

Martyn
Asgetrion Posted - 31 May 2006 : 00:07:37
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Yup, never thought about it until they pointed it out, and now that they have, I can't take the Oerth god of bards seriously at all . . . good thing we have Finder, Milil, and Oghma to look after "our" bards. (hm . . . Rednif, Lilim, and Amhgo . . . okay . . . no hidden animals . . . thats a releif)



Rednif sounds suspicious, though
KnightErrantJR Posted - 22 May 2006 : 00:53:36
Yup, never thought about it until they pointed it out, and now that they have, I can't take the Oerth god of bards seriously at all . . . good thing we have Finder, Milil, and Oghma to look after "our" bards. (hm . . . Rednif, Lilim, and Amhgo . . . okay . . . no hidden animals . . . thats a releif)
Wooly Rupert Posted - 21 May 2006 : 15:49:17
quote:
Originally posted by Eremite

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
But at least the Realms don't have a god whose name is armadillo spelled backwards . . .



Greyhawk did get some shockers, that's true, but I think you'll find that the spelling of Olidammara backwards is arammadilo rather than armadillo. Perhaps there is a link and perhaps there isn't.




Yeah, but that spelling thing was specifically pointed out in a recent issue of Dragon. They were asking, as one of the "Knowledge Check" questions, what his favorite critter was. The answer said to spell his name backwards.
Eremite Posted - 21 May 2006 : 14:54:49
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
But at least the Realms don't have a god whose name is armadillo spelled backwards . . .



Greyhawk did get some shockers, that's true, but I think you'll find that the spelling of Olidammara backwards is arammadilo rather than armadillo. Perhaps there is a link and perhaps there isn't.
Kajehase Posted - 21 May 2006 : 11:18:41
The Realms does have a goddess of love and beauty who shares the name of this man, though.
KnightErrantJR Posted - 21 May 2006 : 11:11:18
But at least the Realms don't have a god whose name is armadillo spelled backwards . . .
Eremite Posted - 21 May 2006 : 06:39:47
quote:
Originally posted by Swordsage I sure wish authors wouldn't use real-world language for names and places in the Realms. They always seem to stick out like the proverbial IMHO and don't seem "realmsian" at all.


I agree. Verisimilitude basically demands that real world names be avoided. Nothing breaks through the "fourth wall" (I think that's what it is called) as quickly as discovering the farmer named Bob.

I've recently been going through some 1E and earlier 2E products for FR and I can't believe the sheer and overwhelming stupidity of some of the names that have been used. Even at that point, the authors had access to a lot of Ed's articles which used FR names and, more importantly, demonstrated FR naming conventions.

The low point for me was the Nar tribe in R A Salvatore's The Bloodstone Lands: Far Quey is such a mix of stupidity and teenage offensiveness. I'm glad his designer days were cut short by his success as an author (although he has continued to demonstrate, all too often, his talent for stupid un-FR names).

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