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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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 Posted - 20 May 2006 : 15:03:04
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According to a Guy over at Enworld the following adventure is in Dungeon 137
Man Forever
by Jason Nelson-Brown
Lord Chauve-Souris gave up the adventuring life for that of a noble, yet something still haunts him from those early glory days. Rumors that he’s actually a vampire have set the region on edge, and civil unrest now threatens a revolt that could devastate southern Impiltur. A Forgotten Realms adventure for 16th-level characters
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Emperor Sigismund
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2006 : 17:14:31
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Chauve-Souris is the french word for Bat. What an original name for a vampire  |
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Swordsage
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 01:39:39
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Originally posted by Skeptic
Chauve-Souris is the french word for Bat. What an original name for a vampire
I sure wish authors wouldn't use real-world language for names and places in the Realms. They always seem to stick out like the proverbial IMHO and don't seem "realmsian" at all.
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Eremite
Learned Scribe
Singapore
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 06:39:47
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Originally posted by Swordsage I sure wish authors wouldn't use real-world language for names and places in the Realms. They always seem to stick out like the proverbial IMHO and don't seem "realmsian" at all.
I agree. Verisimilitude basically demands that real world names be avoided. Nothing breaks through the "fourth wall" (I think that's what it is called) as quickly as discovering the farmer named Bob.
I've recently been going through some 1E and earlier 2E products for FR and I can't believe the sheer and overwhelming stupidity of some of the names that have been used. Even at that point, the authors had access to a lot of Ed's articles which used FR names and, more importantly, demonstrated FR naming conventions.
The low point for me was the Nar tribe in R A Salvatore's The Bloodstone Lands: Far Quey is such a mix of stupidity and teenage offensiveness. I'm glad his designer days were cut short by his success as an author (although he has continued to demonstrate, all too often, his talent for stupid un-FR names). |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 11:11:18
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| But at least the Realms don't have a god whose name is armadillo spelled backwards . . . |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 11:18:41
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| The Realms does have a goddess of love and beauty who shares the name of this man, though. |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Eremite
Learned Scribe
Singapore
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 14:54:49
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But at least the Realms don't have a god whose name is armadillo spelled backwards . . .
Greyhawk did get some shockers, that's true, but I think you'll find that the spelling of Olidammara backwards is arammadilo rather than armadillo. Perhaps there is a link and perhaps there isn't.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 15:49:17
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
But at least the Realms don't have a god whose name is armadillo spelled backwards . . .
Greyhawk did get some shockers, that's true, but I think you'll find that the spelling of Olidammara backwards is arammadilo rather than armadillo. Perhaps there is a link and perhaps there isn't.
Yeah, but that spelling thing was specifically pointed out in a recent issue of Dragon. They were asking, as one of the "Knowledge Check" questions, what his favorite critter was. The answer said to spell his name backwards. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 May 2006 : 00:53:36
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| Yup, never thought about it until they pointed it out, and now that they have, I can't take the Oerth god of bards seriously at all . . . good thing we have Finder, Milil, and Oghma to look after "our" bards. (hm . . . Rednif, Lilim, and Amhgo . . . okay . . . no hidden animals . . . thats a releif) |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 31 May 2006 : 00:07:37
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Yup, never thought about it until they pointed it out, and now that they have, I can't take the Oerth god of bards seriously at all . . . good thing we have Finder, Milil, and Oghma to look after "our" bards. (hm . . . Rednif, Lilim, and Amhgo . . . okay . . . no hidden animals . . . thats a releif)
Rednif sounds suspicious, though |
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martynq
Seeker
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Posted - 31 May 2006 : 09:09:42
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As far as I can tell, spelling things backwards was one of Gary Gygax's (and those he played with) favourite ways to generate names: Zagyg Yragerne, etc.
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Bakra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Jun 2006 : 13:04:40
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Originally posted by Swordsage
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Originally posted by Skeptic
Chauve-Souris is the french word for Bat. What an original name for a vampire
I sure wish authors wouldn't use real-world language for names and places in the Realms. They always seem to stick out like the proverbial IMHO and don't seem "realmsian" at all.
The Swordsage
You are telling me 'Chauve-Souris' stuck out like a proverbial sore thumb? I don't mind the occasional real-world langauge being used for names because the chances of me noticing is somewhere nil. And if I do notice then I think cool, those four years of college level french paid off. |
I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
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love to all,
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Swordsage
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 02:15:54
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Chauve-Souris for Impiltur? You bet it stuck out like a sore thumb.
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 02:29:22
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 03:11:35
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| At least its not a trend strictly limited to the Realms . . . I don't want to ruin anything for anyone, but there was a beholder villain that was disguised in an adventure that had the most rediculous first name ever . . . but I'll not give away anything else for fear of ruining someone elses fun if they play these adventures. |
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 03 Jun 2006 : 11:03:20
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Originally posted by Skeptic
I would add that "Chauve-Souris" can be translated directly to "bald-mouse"
Maybe this guy was laughed at in France, and he used a portal to escape ridicule to Impiltur |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 07:50:48
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| Anyone have it yet PAzio say they shipped the issue to subscribers on 26th of June |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 10:43:36
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| Not yet . . . I'm a subscriber, and it still takes forever before I see the issues after they ship. I'll let you know as soon as I get it though. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 03:39:24
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It'll be interesting to see what this adventure's final form will be, name-wise that is.
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 13:54:09
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We'll wait, then.
What irks me about the bad names is -- apart from why someone with such a poor feel for the setting wants to write there -- how easily fixable it is. It's like when expensive productions such as movies and computer games don't bother to bring in someone literate to quickly look over text. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 16:41:50
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The Realms does have a goddess of love and beauty who shares the name of this man, though.
My best friend named his child that way. I did not point that out to him as of yet. And I doubt it will be able to live up to it's name - since it's a boy! Than again - surgery nowadays makes a lot possible. |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 02:32:52
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Originally posted by Faraer
We'll wait, then.
What irks me about the bad names is -- apart from why someone with such a poor feel for the setting wants to write there -- how easily fixable it is. It's like when expensive productions such as movies and computer games don't bother to bring in someone literate to quickly look over text.
And sometimes, someone does get to look things over. And voila! Read the actual adventure and not the cover copy printed months in advance and I think you'll be happier. ;-)
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 02:38:59
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“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jul 2006 : 07:46:51
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| Haven't read through the adventure yet, but the main character is now called Lord Samulbrar. I also noticed that the herald mentioned in the adventure is noted as being named Royal Herald Rune Tabard (Gabra Robardon), which led me to wonder if this name was also "herald-ified" to make it fit with the herald information in Power of Faerun. |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 : 11:56:08
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Haven't read through the adventure yet, but the main character is now called Lord Samulbrar. I also noticed that the herald mentioned in the adventure is noted as being named Royal Herald Rune Tabard (Gabra Robardon), which led me to wonder if this name was also "herald-ified" to make it fit with the herald information in Power of Faerun.
Yes. (And herald info in Code of the Harpers.) Lots of little changes along these lines. Lord Samulbrar is now a major landownaer with tenant famrers, not a feudal lord, as well.
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 : 12:32:30
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
At least its not a trend strictly limited to the Realms . . . I don't want to ruin anything for anyone, but there was a beholder villain that was disguised in an adventure that had the most rediculous first name ever . . . but I'll not give away anything else for fear of ruining someone elses fun if they play these adventures.
I have to agree there. I remember when playing the adventure you're talking about we, as players, knew what the guy really was well before our characters should have because of the name...
Assuming of course you're talking about a certain adventure path that I'm thinking of... |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 10 Jul 2006 : 08:22:17
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Haven't read through the adventure yet, but the main character is now called Lord Samulbrar. I also noticed that the herald mentioned in the adventure is noted as being named Royal Herald Rune Tabard (Gabra Robardon), which led me to wonder if this name was also "herald-ified" to make it fit with the herald information in Power of Faerun.
Yes. (And herald info in Code of the Harpers.) Lots of little changes along these lines. Lord Samulbrar is now a major landownaer with tenant farmers, not a feudal lord, as well.
--Eric
 Yeah, we did get to tinker with the adventure nomenclature-wise. Eric made it all work and viola, one adventure for the Realms without lots of french-sounding names. At the very least we made it gel with the info in my Impiltur article re the system of government in the kingdom, as Eric alludes to.
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EvilKnight
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Jul 2006 : 05:16:21
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I got my copy a few days ago. I went ahead and indexed it for the Danali Index. It can be found here:
http://home.indy.rr.com/evilknight/
Approximately 714KB. It is under the third tab under mags. Deselect everything else and initialize the index to browse though subject entries. Sorry for broken links. I had to delete a few things to make room. Having only 5MB of space sucks.
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Mazrim_Taim
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Jul 2006 : 13:36:27
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| Impiltur seems to be getting a lot of attention lately. And you know what? I'm loving it. |
And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 12 Jul 2006 : 01:10:40
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Impiltur seems to be getting a lot of attention lately. And you know what? I'm loving it.
You're loving it? Imagine how I feel ...
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Realms adventure in Dungeon 137
