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Dennis
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Posted - 25 Jan 2011 :  06:26:31  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Seriously? What do they think is the purpose of a Book Club, then? Discussing how wonderful or awful the book COVER is?

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Tremaine
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Posted - 21 Jul 2012 :  20:27:11  Show Profile Send Tremaine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
sad to see there's been no discussion of a novel in a bookclub for a few months

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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Jul 2012 :  02:34:35  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tremaine

sad to see there's been no discussion of a novel in a bookclub for a few months



Yeah, I've kind of fallen behind in opening some new scrolls. I'll try and attempt such this afternoon.

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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Jul 2012 :  02:38:43  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Seriously? What do they think is the purpose of a Book Club, then? Discussing how wonderful or awful the book COVER is?

You can provide a review of a book without providing SPOILERS. You can simply talk about what you like and what you don't like about a particular novel without going in depth about the plot or major developments inside.

That's what I was referring to earlier. Not all folk consider a "review" in the scope that it will definitively include SPOILERS. As I've seen recently with reviews for The Dark Knight Rises, some reviewers simply comment on the casting of characters, directorship, special effects and such, without deliberating on the plot of the film. It's a SPOILER-free review. Surely you've encountered those before, eh Dennis?

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Dennis
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Posted - 23 Jul 2012 :  04:53:51  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I'm well aware of what a spoiler-free review is. I've written a couple myself, and even posted them in the Novels section. A Book Club is different...at least, for me. Well, in the Book Clubs I joined, all of us members DO discuss the content of the books in detail.

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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Jul 2012 :  05:11:10  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I'm well aware of what a spoiler-free review is. I've written a couple myself, and even posted them in the Novels section. A Book Club is different...at least, for me. Well, in the Book Clubs I joined, all of us members DO discuss the content of the books in detail.

Eh. Most Book Clubs I've been a member of, usually have at least one member who is content to put forth their own SPOILER-free reviews on a particular book. Once we start discussing the content or plot of the novel, however, they'll usually either leave, or join another group.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  00:38:04  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you were to ask my opinion (which you haven't), I would hazard a suggestion that individual book club sections (i.e. threads on chapters 1-5, chapters 6-10, etc) should be free to put spoilers in, because you should expect to see spoilers there, because what happens in those chapters is what's being discussed. These should always say "Spoiler" in the title. But peeps should also post spoiler-free reviews and posts in a book club.

Speaking of which, when is this getting back on its feet? I think removing all those sticky threads is the first step. I'd be happy to participate in a book club discussion of my most recent FR novel, SHADOWBANE, or its sequel, SHADOWBANE: EYE OF JUSTICE.

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Dennis
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  00:57:57  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Precisely. How can one substantially discuss every chapter of a novel without going into the details?!

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  02:45:57  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

If you were to ask my opinion (which you haven't), I would hazard a suggestion that individual book club sections (i.e. threads on chapters 1-5, chapters 6-10, etc) should be free to put spoilers in, because you should expect to see spoilers there, because what happens in those chapters is what's being discussed. These should always say "Spoiler" in the title. But peeps should also post spoiler-free reviews and posts in a book club.
Ideally, I would normally agree. But I've received the odd few PMs in the past from readers who want to participate in the non-SPOILER reviews in the Book Club but don't like the idea reading/posting in the appropriate 'Chapter' scroll.

Judging from their complaints, I'm assuming that while they don't want to discuss the actual content of a particular section of a novel, they're happy to discuss the structure and pacing of a chapter as such.

It's a fine line, I know, but I like to strive toward ensuring ALL readers feel welcome here at Candlekeep.
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Speaking of which, when is this getting back on its feet? I think removing all those sticky threads is the first step. I'd be happy to participate in a book club discussion of my most recent FR novel, SHADOWBANE, or its sequel, SHADOWBANE: EYE OF JUSTICE.
Very true. I'm afraid the dictates of my famed "To-Do" list have often taken precedence over my duties here at Candleekep. That, and the fact that we've seen the number of Realms novels released in the month-by-month schedule, decrease slightly, hasn't helped either. Sometimes I've even forgot there's been a release -- especially when we're talking e-books, because I just haven't been able to purchase/read them. I'm still exploring all legal options that will allow me to read Cordell's latest e-Realms offering.

...

Anyways, I'll devote the month of August to rejuvenating the Book Club. I'll be contacting those scribes with access to the e-novels for chapter numbers and headings [if and when applicable], to help facilitate the structures of each dedicated chapter scroll.

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Jul 2012 :  02:49:22  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


Precisely. How can one substantially discuss every chapter of a novel without going into the details?!

Didn't we cover this already?

Some folk are quite happy discussing the structure, pacing, wording, and tone of a particular chapter without discussing that chapter's SPOILER-specific content.

As Moderator, I need to find ways to cater for ALL the interests of Realms readers here at Candlekeep. And the very fact that I've received PMs from scribes who feel they can't participate in non-SPOILER chapter-specific discussions of a novel, tells me that there are groups who can substantially discuss every chapter of a novel without going into the details.

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WilsonSmith
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Great , I like the idea behind this forgotten domain. There are specific firms where we get to watch out for the elements that are forgotten and have not come across. I have some of the ideas and creative things that I want to discuss but really do not know about the process, you can tell me the process which I can move further and share some of the facts.
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The Red Walker
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Posted - 28 Sep 2013 :  16:59:09  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Anyways, I'll devote the month of August to rejuvenating the Book Club. I'll be contacting those scribes with access to the e-novels for chapter numbers and headings [if and when applicable], to help facilitate the structures of each dedicated chapter scroll.



Looks like a few scribes have copies of the Godborn, so hopefully we can get the info you need to open those scrolls.

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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

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The Sage
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Posted - 29 Sep 2013 :  03:26:17  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Anyways, I'll devote the month of August to rejuvenating the Book Club. I'll be contacting those scribes with access to the e-novels for chapter numbers and headings [if and when applicable], to help facilitate the structures of each dedicated chapter scroll.



Looks like a few scribes have copies of the Godborn, so hopefully we can get the info you need to open those scrolls.

Much appreciated. The Lady K probably won't get her copy of Godborn until mid-October, so I'll need to rely on those scribes who already have a copy, to provide me with the necessary chapter breakdown. At which point, I'll open the requisite Book Club discussion scrolls.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 Sep 2013 :  05:08:36  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Anyways, I'll devote the month of August to rejuvenating the Book Club. I'll be contacting those scribes with access to the e-novels for chapter numbers and headings [if and when applicable], to help facilitate the structures of each dedicated chapter scroll.



Looks like a few scribes have copies of the Godborn, so hopefully we can get the info you need to open those scrolls.

Much appreciated. The Lady K probably won't get her copy of Godborn until mid-October, so I'll need to rely on those scribes who already have a copy, to provide me with the necessary chapter breakdown. At which point, I'll open the requisite Book Club discussion scrolls.



Speaking of which, she missed her annual August visit to our halls. The Hamster, he were disappointed.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 03 Oct 2013 :  04:16:10  Show Profile Send The Red Walker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Anyways, I'll devote the month of August to rejuvenating the Book Club. I'll be contacting those scribes with access to the e-novels for chapter numbers and headings [if and when applicable], to help facilitate the structures of each dedicated chapter scroll.



Looks like a few scribes have copies of the Godborn, so hopefully we can get the info you need to open those scrolls.

Much appreciated. The Lady K probably won't get her copy of Godborn until mid-October, so I'll need to rely on those scribes who already have a copy, to provide me with the necessary chapter breakdown. At which point, I'll open the requisite Book Club discussion scrolls.



Here you go Sage :

quote:
Originally posted by PaulSKemp

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Hey Paul....hope the sales are brisk!

Our friend The Sage needs the number of chapters and if there is a prologue, epilogue, etc.....so he can open scrolls for your book in the bookclub.



I'm going from the last draft I saw (I don't have author copies yet) but I think it's accurate: Prologue, 15 chapters, Epilogue.


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The Sage
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Posted - 03 Oct 2013 :  08:57:01  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks RW. And to Paul as well.

I'll open those scrolls this evening.

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Firestorm
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Posted - 12 Oct 2013 :  22:10:56  Show Profile Send Firestorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Thanks RW. And to Paul as well.

I'll open those scrolls this evening.


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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Thanks RW. And to Paul as well.

I'll open those scrolls this evening.


W00t

Yes, I'll open them this evening.

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Firestorm

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Thanks RW. And to Paul as well.

I'll open those scrolls this evening.


W00t

Yes, I'll open them this evening.



It feels like déjà vous all over again

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Edited by - The Red Walker on 13 Oct 2013 04:14:17
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The Sage
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Posted - 16 Oct 2013 :  08:12:49  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Book Club scrolls for The Godborn will be open tomorrow [Thursday, Australian time]. I've set aside part of my day off tomorrow for getting the Book Club up-to-date.

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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Oct 2013 :  03:15:41  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Book Club discussion scrolls for Paul Kemp's The Godborn are now open.

Finally!

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The Sage
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I'll be opening the Book Club scrolls for The Adversary by Erin M. Evans sometime this week -- provided I can ever get this internet connection working again.

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Dennis
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I thought the release date of that book is December.

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Thieran
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Well, better too early than too late, right? ;-)
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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Oct 2013 :  14:12:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dennis


I thought the release date of that book is December.

That may be... but Erin M Evans was generous enough to share with me the necessary chapter breakdowns -- probably knowing that by the time I do actually get around to opening the scrolls, The Adversary would have just been released.

Hehe...

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I'll be opening the Book Club scrolls for The Adversary by Erin M. Evans sometime this week -- provided I can ever get this internet connection working again.



Excellent!....I hope to participate at some point.

Also I have to apologize for agitating for you to get The Godborn scrolls up and open, then not utilizing them(yet). I just cant justify Over $15 for a kindle book, especially when the opening book of the series, by the best selling FR author was almost $6 less.....I really cannot understand WotC ebook pricing scheme.

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The Sage
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Posted - 05 Dec 2013 :  02:45:00  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Book Club scrolls for The Adversary are now open.

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