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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Jan 2016 :  03:25:47  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now you're just making me feel old. Elminster-old.

It's been a good holiday break. Spending time in the Realms is always fun and relaxing.

I wonder what else might be conjured up.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Lukas Kain
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Posted - 03 Jan 2016 :  08:32:51  Show Profile Send Lukas Kain a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My version of Palreth was messed up, so thank you for reproducing this for us George. Dazzler, I thought I PMed you the link to this entry in the Realms-L list over a year ago, I meant to if I didn't.

George, I had wondered about any portals active in Impiltur, both to other locations in Faerun and extra-planar. I would imagine there to be a few that were Abyssal in nature. Also, How do Idriane and Limbrar fit into the Heltharn family? Everyone else comes from either Sambral and Baranth, Lasheela and Derbraun, or Delmatha and Maerstar (or married in -> Oriseus). One of these days I'm going to do a family tree; with the information you've given us it would almost be complete; it was pretty full back when all I had was from Champions of Valor.

Awesome way to start out the year
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George Krashos
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Posted - 03 Jan 2016 :  10:41:01  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm pretty sure some of this has been posted previously, but here is the background for the Lords of Imphras II:

The Council of Lords comprised of a dozen individuals made up of descendants of the sixth and last son of Imphras II, Fylraun. Fylraun had a son Elphras (born 1246 DR) named after his dead older brother. Elphras in turn had three daughters: Sambral (born in 1285 DR), Lasheela (born in 1287 DR) and Delmatha (born 1289 DR). These three sisters (or the “Dowager Aunts” as they came to be known) were Queen-Regent Sambryl’s older second cousins and bore many children who all grew to be virtuous paladins.

Sambral married Lord Banarth Huntsilver of Cormyr and her children were Kyrlraun (born 1309 DR), Imbra (born 1310 DR), Lashilaun (born 1312 DR), Rilimbraun (born 1315 DR), and Rilaunyr (born 1319 DR). Lasheela married Lord Derbraun Harrowbrace and her sons were Soargilm (born 1313 DR), Limbrar (1315 DR), Imbraun (born 1318 DR) and Haelimbrar (born 1321 DR). Delmatha married Maerstar Moonshimmer of the Grey Forest and her half-elven sons were Sambrar (born 1311 DR), Simgar (born 1313 DR) and Silaunbrar (born 1317 DR).

As at 1374 DR and prior to the accession of King Imbrar II, the Council of Lords has lost the following original members:

Kyrlraun
Imbra
Lashilaun
Sambrar
Imbraun

Kyrlraun died of heartstop in 1370 DR and his son Rangrim succeeded him on the Council but was slain in 1373 DR by forces of the Cult of the Dragon. His younger brother Delimbrar replaced him.

Imbra was incapacitated by a “brainbolt” (stroke) in 1360 DR, which left him partially paralyzed. This condition deteriorated as time went on and his power of speech departed in 1366 DR and he died a few short months later. In the intervening period – with the agreement of the Council – his son-in-law Oriseus of Tsurlagol, a cleric/paladin of Helm, aided him in his council duties. With his demise, and with Imbra’s only child and daughter Eanral not interested or suited in taking up his position, the Council conferred with the Queen-Regent and agreed to co-opt Oriseus into Imbra’s position despite him not being of the Heltharn bloodline. This was done out of respect to Imbra who was beloved of all on the Council and the Queen-Regent in particular.

Lashilaun was slain by demons (magically summoned and tasked with his slaying by the vengeful Soneillon) in the fringes of the Rawlinswood in late 1359 DR when in disguise as the paladin Mornaeth, riding with the Twilight Riders of Damara (he had taken up this guise to allow his cousin Haelimbrar respite from this important mission of the Lords of Imphras II after that individual had been with that group for some 4 months). His daughter Idriane (b. 1337 DR) succeeded him on the Council on his death.

Sambrar and Imbraun both died in unfortunate circumstances in 1371 DR when en-route to by sea to attend on the Royal Court of Cormyr and pass on the condolences of the realm on the death of King Azoun IV. Whilst approaching the Neck, their ship was waylaid by a horde of koalinth rising up out of the depths of the Haunted Plains of Serôs. Their personal ship and their two warship escorts were holed and dragged down to the depths, with both Lords never seen again. As a consequence of this tragedy, Sambrar and Imbraun’s respective sons, Helimbraun (b. 1338 DR) and Engarth (b. 1342 DR) took their fathers’ seats on the Council.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 03 Jan 2016 :  11:14:56  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't ever remember reading about soneillon killing one of the lords. Makes me wonder If it was an act of opportunism or part of a bigger plan and perhaps his replacement is a pawn of soneillon in some way (like her confidante is under soneillons sway or she carries a magic item that soneillon can scry through).

Have you ever considered doing a sourcebook with this stuff. If I ever get round to doing an alternate campaign setting your impiltur would be an awesome den of demonic intrigue and corruption with a whiter than white veneer over the top.

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Lukas Kain
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Posted - 03 Jan 2016 :  20:23:38  Show Profile Send Lukas Kain a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I suppose I never thought to take it one more generation and to see that Idriane was Lashilaun's daughter, and thus of that line. You had previously stated that Lashilaun had died unexpectedly of heartstop in 1364, and I'm wondering if this was the "official story" and what you've just mentioned is the truth kept from the public? It was also stated that Imbra was killed by orc raiders and Imbraun died by the same Wasting Sickness which slew the heir Imphras V. I'm not trying to be snarky by pointing this out, I'm just curious if there's a reason for the differences. Here's the post:

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos (April 18, 2014)

With the passing of the years, there have been five new appointments to the council due to death caused by old age or misadventure. Seven out of the original twelve children of the Dowager Aunts remain on the Council. Of their cousins who once sat with them, Kyrlraun died of heartstop in 1370 DR and was succeeded by his son Rangrim. Lord Rangrim’s recent demise at the hands of the Cult of the Dragon in the Year of Rogue Dragons (1373 DR) (see The Rage by Richard Lee Byers) has seen him replaced by his younger brother Delimbrar. Of the others, Lord Imbra fell to orc raiders in 1359 DR and was replaced with his brother-in-law Oriseus of Ilmwatch, Lord Lashilaun died unexpectedly of heartstop in 1364 DR and was succeeded by his daughter Idriane, Lord Sambrar retired from the Council due to ill-health and was succeeded by his son Helimbraun and Lord Imbraun died of the terrible wasting sickness that slew the heir to the throne Imphras V in 1363 DR, and was succeeded by his son Engarth.




I'm on board for the sourcebook, but then again my binder I've printed this out in sort of serves as such.
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Gary Dallison
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Well either George needs a new editor or its a clever ruse and as you say one set of stories is likely to be the official word while the other is what actually happened.

Looking at the most recent post it looks like an awful lot of the Lords that died recently did so under suspicious circumstances with Lashilaun being the first and being killed by Soneillon no less (the others were also likely killed by her machinations in an attempt to remove the old guard and replace them with new lords that might be less loyal or less skilled or have personalities at odds with the remaining old guard and possibly have less respect for Sambryl, and some may even have connections to Soneillon - knowingly or not).

Imbra was probably ill for quite some time (1359 onwards) before suffering the stroke in 1360 DR and retiring. The unexplained and uncurable illness likely prompted the cover story in 1360 especially after the disappearance of Lashilaun a few days later.

Lashilaun was secretly adventuring with the Twilight Riders and so was probably absent for some time which gives the disparity between his actual death and the official story in 1363 DR (giving them enough time to train and prepare Idriane.

Sambrar and Imbraun I cant begin to think of an explanation of the dates unless they were actually afflicted with mysterious illnesses from 1359 onwards - the same illnesses that afflicted Imbra. But these two actually recovered (or sold their souls for survival) but disappeared into the depths. I wouldn't be surprised if Soneillon was connected to the Koalinth given her possession of the ship carrying the princess of Impiltur that was to wed the prince of Cormyr long ago, she probably has some familiarity with the evil creatures in the Sea of Fallen Stars.

That's just what I would do with it though but I bet George has something much better (and sorry for cluttering up your thread George but I love debating your work).

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George Krashos
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Posted - 04 Jan 2016 :  02:00:52  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Whilst I love Dazzlerdal's attempts to give deeper meaning to my recent post on the Lords, I can honestly say that I tried to spice up the demise of the various Lords a tad and retro-fitted new death stories (the date for Kyrlraun's death has been edited and changed to match the 1370 DR however as that was not a big change).

There are a couple of reasons for this, both specific and general.

In terms of the specifics, I like the new version because it adds a bit of spice and intrigue to Impiltur (and thereby enhances any potential campaigns set there) and also fixes a first version that was both ... well ... boring and wrong. In terms of the "boring", death by orc raiders isn't particularly inspired and I like the segue for Oriseus from outlander to trusted helper (and making him from Tsurlagol explains the devotion to Helm - which was required due to his description in the Rage - and also sets up a sub-plot given that the Church of Helm has been trying to get an "in" in Impiltur for decades. There's no reason he couldn't have resided in Ilmwatch before being appointed to the Council however). As for the "wrong", I keep forgetting that paladins can't die of disease - so having Imbraun die of plague doesn't work.

As for the "broad", my Impiltur work is in constant flux. I have over the years refined, changed, or deleted whole bunches of stuff (you can see that from more recent edits to old posts in this thread) as ideas have gelled or been found to be a bit "weak" as my vision for this kingdom develops. A recent example is that my "Imbrar's Inheritance" posts are different than those posted on the old REALMS-L in small and larger ways to account for further work/ideas that have occurred since. I make no apologies for this as my work is unofficial, done for fun and I expect changed by anyone who uses it as part of their Realms in any event.

I have in the last few months become more organised regarding my Impiltur work however, as part of a general clean up of my Realms information and sources and an attempt to move to a digital FR database. I hope therefore that these lapses in memory/changes in direction will become fewer as time goes on.

As for a sourcebook, at the rate I am producing lore I'm likely to be in my 60s before there is anything that could be considered such. We'll be at 10E by that stage!

As always, thanks for taking an interest.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

Edited by - George Krashos on 04 Jan 2016 02:01:18
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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 04 Jan 2016 :  17:36:49  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dammit, a secret plot to remove the lords would have been very nice and highlight the struggle between soneillon and the current dynasty of impiltur.

Still awesome stuff George. I'm just starting to rebuild my archive so when I get to impiltur I will be thoroughly reviewing this thread for information.

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George Krashos
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Posted - 04 Jan 2016 :  23:00:32  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dazzlerdal

Dammit, a secret plot to remove the lords would have been very nice and highlight the struggle between soneillon and the current dynasty of impiltur.



Who says there isn't a secret plot to remove the Lords?

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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George Krashos
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Posted - 05 Jan 2016 :  11:21:08  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After some cogent comments by Lukas Kain, I can say that posts on this page have been suitably edited to reflect that the Heltharns are a huge @#$*ing family, leading to confusion, errors and flip-flopping of significant proportions! It now has all been set right. I think. Maybe. I bet this never happens to Ed ...

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 05 Jan 2016 :  11:55:36  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I'm sure most of us know that these are not errors (unless they are unsolvable) but opportunities for expanding upon the excellent lore you have provided. Although being "error free" also helps.

Keep up the amazing work and I look forward to the detail of the plot to remove the lords of imphras ii

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Lukas Kain
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Posted - 08 Jan 2016 :  01:45:59  Show Profile Send Lukas Kain a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was never about correcting errors, I was just looking for clarification. It was always my understanding that the details of the plot to remove the Lords was open-ended such that we were given the pieces and examples of potential intrigue, but the dots to be filled in were left to the GM's discretion. Thank you George, this year has been great already!
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Posted - 09 Jan 2016 :  16:45:37  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is very creative. I quite like it!

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George Krashos
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Posted - 10 Jan 2016 :  12:16:13  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sometimes the best "flavour" that can be easily inserted into a campaign is the little stuff that highlights regional flavour. To me, nothing says "regional flavour" like food and drink, so here we go:

BEER & ALE

Much of the beer production in Impiltur is concentrated in the cleared lands between Hlammach and Dilpur where cereal crops including barley are grown. The two cities are rivals in this regard and both produce slightly different products. In Hlammach, most of the barley is dried using coke, which gives it a lighter hue, while the "traditional" fire-dried barley used in the beers and ales of Dilur give them a darker hue. More recently, beer from farming communities (known as "thaedar") in the Uplands have become all the rage in the major cities of the realm. These beers are different again in that they use wild hops that provide a more bitter taste, one that connoisseurs regard as indicative of high quality.

Some of the beers and ales and where they are predominately found throughout the kingdom are listed below:

Dilpur

Ambrar's Old Ale
Everglaun's Brown Harpy
Old Witch's Brew
Rolimbraun's Choice
Smoky Starbrew
Three Spires Coldfroth

Hlammach

Arneetha's Frost
Eaglespire
Redhook Brightbrew
Sunsails
Telegaun Dusky Ale
Telegaun Sparkling Ale
Telegaun Vintage Ale

Uplands

Clearspring Golden Ale
Old Goblin
Beldraun's Bittergold

WINE

The wine industry in Impiltur is dominated by small, family run vineyards that have been in their respective families for generations. The first grape cuttings came from the Vilhon in the earliest days of settlement, and some grape varieties cultivated by the elves in the environs of the Grey Forest were adopted by humans as the elven presence in the region diminished. Most of the white wines are grown in the foothills of the Earthfast on steep terraces, while red wines are cultivated on the flat, predominately in the undulating hills in and around Lyrabar. More recently, the temperate sea coast near Dilpur has seen a surge in viticulture and the wines produced there are gaining in popularity. There is some viticulture in the Uplands along the slopes of the Earthspurs, but the wines of that region are poorly regarded.

Grape varieties that can be found in Impiltur are classed as white or red. The white grape varieties are: elsar [an old variety first cultivated by the elves], nolth [high in acid, but can produce bland wines if overcropped], gelbern [large grape clusters with yellow, gold skin and juicy flesh that grows best in patches of volcanic soil in the Earthfasts], mapollo [highly aromatic, producing soft, elegant wines] and iliforn [pink hue when very ripe, thick skinned and suited to the making of sweet wines].

The red grape varieties are: yoroth [dark black berries producing spicy wines with notes of plum. Can be lacking in acidity and often blended with other red grape varieties], bercat [thick-skinned, purple berries producing acidic, tannic wines that require proper aging to show their best], magay [still grown in the Vilhon Reach, this variety is ancient and produces wines with sour cherry and black pepper notes], halicant [light purple berries that thrive in full sun and produce red juice when crushed that is bottled without skin contact, producing a refreshing pink-hued wine that is served chilled], and zarsh [red-tinged, black berries that produce full-bodied wines with soft tannins and flavours of blackberry and mint in cooler climes and liquorice, tobacco and spice in hotter climes].

Some of the notable wines of Impiltur (and the grape varieties they are made from) are set out below:

White

Aramina (mapollo)
Lost Lady (elsar)
Nerlaun's Gold (elsar)
Three Harps (gelbern)
Satyr's Horn (ilforn in a sweet style)
Narthwheel (nolth - high quality example)
Wendaree (nolth - low quality, bulk wine)

Red

Jarloon's Bull's Blood (bercat)
Black River (zarsh)
Rose of Lyrabar (halicant)
Derelaun's Run (yoroth/bercat)
Moonwhisper (yoroth)
Rockford (zarsh)
Hermit's Barrel No.7 (magay)

It is known that many monasteries and abbeys of various faiths of Faerûn cultivate vines, and those found in Impiltur are no exception. Some of the rarest wines in the kingdom are grown and vinified in these secluded places, and rarely seen by the general population. Rare bottles of red wine from the monks of the Fastness of Mergalath (a holy monk of Ilmater, now long-dead) located in the rugged bluffs of the Fist [the peninsula south of Ilmwatch] or white wines from the Tometower, a retreat used by the faithful of Oghma in the Earthfasts west of Songhal fetch significant prices from collectors.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  08:32:20  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Now this is the kind of small stuff that I often ignore but is essential for giving a region a believable level of reality.

Excellent stuff George as always, and yet another mention of a famous monk (I suspect soon there will be more detailed clergy of Ilmater's monasteries than the whole of 5e FR NPC roster).

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George Krashos
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Posted - 12 Jan 2016 :  12:15:29  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SPIRITS

There are few large producers of spirits in Impiltur, with most beverages being produced on a small-scale by a single family or collective. As is commonplace in our world, spirits are either made from cereal crops (usually using estari - akin to real-world corn but ripening to produce vivid scarlet kernels) or other vegetables (dandager in the main - akin to real world parsnips). Wood aging in oak and duskwood (which is excellent for charring) produces a range of potables and detailed below are a few of the spirits unique to Impiltur:

Argentar (clear spirit with notes of mint, juniper and berries)
Danimbrar's Darkfire (red-brown spirit with notes of toasted wood, vanilla and spice)
Larlaena (cloudy spirit with notes of cucumber, rosehip and freshly-cut grass)
Norbren (golden hued spirit with a smoky taste, cardamom and clove)
Pelden's Whiteflame (clear spirit with notes of aniseed and fennel)
Rornthil ["made to a traditional dwarven recipe"] (deep amber with a strong smoky flavour highlighted by vanilla and sea salt)
Ulintree (yellow, viscous spirit with a sweet taste and notes of saffron and honey)
Worthar's Triple Cask (dark, almost black spirit with notes of citrus and cherry)

Most taverns will stock a range of spirits but it is rare for any establishments outside the major cities to stock more than 2-3. Hard drinking is frowned upon in polite society in Impiltur and public drunkenness is not tolerated by the authorities. Spirits usually feature after a meal and only in the context of toasts to celebrate a happy or auspicious occasion. Most spirit drinkers who indulge more liberally do so in the privacy of their own homes or in groups of like-minded individuals. Lyrabar has seen a spate of these groups form in recent winters, with exclusive memberships and names such as the Knights of the Goblet, the Draftmasters and the Lords of Amber. These groups are popular amidst the younger nobility and richer middle class and are prepared to pay good gold for exotic beverages from around Faerûn and hard-to-get spirits within the kingdom (such as the famous Old Twinkle spirit, not made now for some 15 years, and treasured by collectors and connoisseurs. The last bottle sold openly in Lyrabar fetched a sum of 1000 gp!).

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Gary Dallison
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Posted - 25 Jan 2016 :  19:49:47  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi George,

A few questions about ancient Narfell (i'll leave the questions about modern Narfell unless you have an interest in those as well).

First thing is first I'm wondering about the origin of the Nar people. The various sources we have indicate that the ancient Nar were tribal in origin, so I'm wondering how much of that tribal nature was still around by the time of Narfell's destruction in -150 DR.

I have read that the Nentyarch had 5 Ayarchs which may or may not have contained the son and heir of the ruling Nentyarch. Now if Narfell was still tribal in nature were those Ayarchs actually leading representatives of powerful clans (or whatever the tribal units were). What was the succession law for Narfell - was it primogeniture (where the eldest child of the king inherited) or was it more an elective succession (i.e. anyone could be elected by the clans) or perhaps elective but only from members of the ruling dynasty.




I'm also wondering on the original home of the Nar. In the real world there was a succession of migrations out of the Steppe lands in the east that came to Europe. Each successive migration pushed the preceding migration further west.

Is that a process mirrored in Toril, so were the Nar the first to migrate west and were pushed further by the Raumathari and both of those were displaced by the modern Nar.




Lastly for now is why is Narfell still named Narfell. I'm assuming that the ancient Nar were called the Nar and the kingdom called Narfell. If so then with the nation's destruction did the name persist only because the only surviving nations at the time (Mulhorand and Unther) remembered its name before and communicated it to the nations that arose amid the ashes (Impiltur etc).

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hashimashadoo
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George, in your High History of Impiltur, I noted that King Bellodar II was marching on Chessagol in 635 DR, but his father had annexed it only a few decades previous. In Dragon #277, I see that you note that King Lamoth's monarchy was only recently established so I presume that Chessagol had (again) broken away from Impiltur within those 31 years.

My question is when did this happen? Also, you describe King Lamoth as having "simpering regard" for King Bellodar when the army of Impiltur is at his gates. This doesn't sound like a monarch who would foment rebellion against another, more powerful kingdom. Or was he one of those weaselly fellows who try to manipulate folk into doing what they want by pretending to be pathetic?

Cheers chap!

Edit: I've also GOT to ask. How did Queen Ilmara manage to give birth at the age of 65?

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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by hashimashadoo

George, in your High History of Impiltur, I noted that King Bellodar II was marching on Chessagol in 635 DR, but his father had annexed it only a few decades previous. In Dragon #277, I see that you note that King Lamoth's monarchy was only recently established so I presume that Chessagol had (again) broken away from Impiltur within those 31 years.

My question is when did this happen? Also, you describe King Lamoth as having "simpering regard" for King Bellodar when the army of Impiltur is at his gates. This doesn't sound like a monarch who would foment rebellion against another, more powerful kingdom. Or was he one of those weaselly fellows who try to manipulate folk into doing what they want by pretending to be pathetic?

Cheers chap!

Edit: I've also GOT to ask. How did Queen Ilmara manage to give birth at the age of 65?



Chessagol did indeed rebel just a year or so after Bellodar I's death. The leader of the rebellion was one Narmoth Bragendar, who saw to it that the Impilturian authorities and sympathizers were put to the sword and installed himself on the (dusted off) throne of Chessagol. Narmoth was a great bear of man, rough of speech and abrupt in manner, but a strong leader and brave in battle. He came to rule Chessagol in 625 DR but died a short time later in 632 DR when fighting orc and ogre raiders from the Earthfasts.

His son Lamoth was of a different cut to his respected (and feared) father. The younger of twin sons, Lamoth was a sickly child and not blessed with physical gifts. His older brother Halmoth died of illness in 618 DR and with the death of Narmoth, Lamoth came to the throne. History suggests that Chessagol remained independent (although still very much in Impiltur's sphere of control) for a range of reasons - the fact the Lamoth maneuvered a marriage alliance, his sending back to Impiltur and Bellodar II of three renegade Orbil family nobles who had sought sanctuary in Chessagol and most likely of all, that Bellodar sought a buffer state between him and Procampur rather than having the two powers uncomfortably close.

The Bragendars managed to stay in power until the Fiend Wars. so as a ruling family, they had at least a century in the sun.

As for Ilmara, I'm guessing that the blessings of Sune and Chauntea had something to do with her fertility - and she likely had some access to longevity magics.

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Edited by - George Krashos on 23 Jun 2016 05:30:50
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Hi George,
I've been trying to do some reading into Dardath but I'm coming up relatively empty. I was reading your stuff on Ardeep and Elembar, and I was wondering if you ever did any stuff for their dwarven neighbour?

Cheers!

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Oh, we've done lots of stuff on Dardath (by we I mean Eric Boyd and I). What were you after in particular?

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I was hoping for the list of Arcrowns if you have it!
I've read the stuff in Eric's thread as relevant to the Illefarn campaign, but was hoping to fill in some gaps as far as the Arcrowns at different times go. I'm specifically interested in Arcrowns around the time shortly after the fall of Phalorm, but a full list would be awesome!

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Just a few from the fall of Phalorm onwards:

Faurilarn - reigns from 614-617
Faurilosk - reigns from 617-620 (brother of Faurilarn)

Interregnum from 621 to 624 as younger brothers of Faurilosk battle for regency

Oskilar "the Younger" - reigns from 620-671 (son of Faurilosk)
[Delg the Clanless is regent - he's a bastard son of Oskilar, father of Faurilarn and Faurilosk]

Devin "Blackheart" - reigns from 671-850 (son of Faurilosk)
Bharaun "the Younger" - reigns from 850-882 (son of Devin)
Devinarn - reigns from 882-942 (son of Devin)
Tammas "the Younger" - reigns from 942-950 (daughter of Devinarn)
Daurvosarn - reigns from 950-1018 (son of Tammas)
Devinarn "the Younger" - reigns from 1018-1090 (son of Daurvosarn)
Devin "the Younger" - reigns from 1090-1235 (son of Devinarn and died heirless)

After that, Dardath ceased to have a king but in truth had existed as a realm in name only after the fall of Phalorm. After that it was a group of allied clanholds. Most of those holds were abandoned by 882 DR.

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Wow, thank you! Much appreciated!

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The hobgoblins of Haekrukkha were led by their chosen leader, the Dargrath. The Dargrath was usually the best and most-feared war leader among the hobgoblins, but he wielded no real power. The real power of the realm was in the hands of a circle of shamans known as the Kurdagrin. This group chose the Dargrath (and every once in a while, disposed of one) and held large religious observances on a quarterly basis that usually involved sacrificing prisoners (elves were favored) and grisly feasting on the corpses. To that end, it should be noted that the hobgoblins of Haekrukkha practiced cannibalism, with the view that they gained strength in eating their own. The hobgoblins of Haekrukkha were established along family/clan lines, with groups clustered together in a myriad of small settlements on the plains and in the foothills of the Earthspurs. Each settlement was usually ruled by an elder (known as a Bardrak) who meted out village justice. The wise ones lasted for years, while the unpopular ones turned over relatively frequently. Haekrukkha built no major cities or settlements of its own but the Kurdagrin resided in the remnants of an ancient ruined settlement thought to have been built by the giants. It was known as Gharazkar and is thought to have been located somewhere near the western shore of the present-day Bluefang Water. Nothing of it remains for in the great battles between the hobgoblins and the elves of Larlotha and dwarves of Felimar, it is believed that the elves used High Magic to either raze it or tip its towers into the Bluefang. Tales of people finding "Lost Gharazkar" crop up routinely but no one has ever been able to provide concrete proof of discovering what is left of this long ago capital.

The army of Haekrukkha was known as the Haurash (or "Fangs") and organised into three main battlegroups known as Raashun. These were:

The Disarashuun - young warriors, barely adults, who were used as skirmishers and raiders, harrying the enemy from a distance with missile weapons. They were typically lightly armored, carried hide shields and wielded javelins and throwing axes.

The Norgarashuun - the adult warriors making up the bulk of the armed might of Haekruukha. They were well-trained, disciplined and fought in close order. They wore heavier armor (scalemail or brigandines or their equivalent in the main) and fought with thrusting spears and short swords.

The Telvarashuun - these were the older, veteran warriors who had fought many campaigns. They were the realm's elite reserve and wore as much metal armor as they could scavenge (from elves in the main) as well as armor produced for them by the enslaved Stormhammer clan of dwarves, now extinct). They wielded great two-handed axes in battle and were notable for their distinct tattoos (black around the eyes and top of the head, looking like a mask).

Haekrukkha was a strong, warlike realm that in the end was overmatched by the magic of the elves and the stubborn, single-minded battle ferocity of the dwarves. Rumors circulate that many hobgoblins fled into the Underdark in the dying days of the realm. There they were subverted and controlled by an Underdark race - most believe illithids, while some talk of the duergar - and have spent the milllennia since enslaved and a bare shadow of their former might and power. The hobgoblins of the Giantspires have tales of an Urdargrath (or "Greatest Slayer") who will come from the "downdark" and lead the hobgoblins in a crusade of revenge against their enemies. More than a few hobgoblins have claimed the mantle of Urdargrath over the centuries, but none have achieved their goal of conquest.

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Very nice, Mr. Krashos. One question about the Kurdagrin: were they exclusively shamans of Maglubyiet, followers of Nomog-Geaya, or representants of more than one goblin deity?

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Thanks very much George and fairplay!

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Those Kurdagrin sound like a scary bunch indeed. Love it! Any infamous ones among them?

Awesome tale on Gharazkar, gave me an idea for a submerged dungeon in the Bluefang.

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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir

Very nice, Mr. Krashos. One question about the Kurdagrin: were they exclusively shamans of Maglubyiet, followers of Nomog-Geaya, or representants of more than one goblin deity?



Malglubiyet all the way.

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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Malglubiyet all the way.


Cool, thanks!!!

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