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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 25 Sep 2023 :  14:43:54  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Azar
There are solid reasons as to "why" that perception persists. In most D&D core rulebooks, Elves are listed as Chaotic Good; there hasn't been a single Forgotten Realms campaign setting book or box set that has gone out of its way to blatantly refute this moral/ethical description as it applies to Corellon's offspring in The Realms.



You might want to read "Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves" a bit more closely.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Azar
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 26 Sep 2023 :  08:05:30  Show Profile Send Azar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Azar
There are solid reasons as to "why" that perception persists. In most D&D core rulebooks, Elves are listed as Chaotic Good; there hasn't been a single Forgotten Realms campaign setting book or box set that has gone out of its way to blatantly refute this moral/ethical description as it applies to Corellon's offspring in The Realms.



You might want to read "Cormanthyr: Empire of the Elves" a bit more closely.

-- George Krashos



I have*, but most players - hell, most DMs - don't get in that deep. By "campaign setting book or box set", I was referring to the primers which cover The Realms as a whole...touching on multiple regions (such as the 3e FRCS hardcover). That aside, I'm not sure where or even if we ought to continue this conversation; I dislike hijacking a thread with a broader purpose.

*Once through, from cover to cover. It is occasionally revisited for inspiration, however.

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Italian Archmage Karsus
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Posted - 28 Nov 2023 :  23:30:41  Show Profile Send Italian Archmage Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, I was going over Baelam the Bold (City of Splendors, Waterdeep: p. 120-121). In an earlier book, Campaign Guide to Myth Drannor inside the Ruins of Myth Drannor boxed set, he's stated to be 31 years old in the apparent year of 1356. However, the default date of 2e was 1368 DR, and he was also present in Dragon 172. While a later source overrules a previous source, CGtMD is not explicitly set in 1356.

If he is taken to be 31 years old by 1368 DR, that makes him out to be 5 years old in 1342 DR, when he slays his master's assassins. I think it's more reasonable to say he's 31 years old in 1356, so he'd be 17 years old by 1342, which is in line with many a player character's age. It seems like a foregone conclusion to me, but just to stay on the safe side, I thought I should check in. Was that bit in City of Splendors written under the consideration he was 31 years old in 1356, rather than in 1368?
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 03 Jan 2024 :  22:20:54  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My intent was to go with the 1325 DR birth year for Baelam the Bold.

While the general rule is that you go with the newer source, when it's Ed writing it and when they copied 1e material verbatim into a 2e source without updating it, my rule of thumb is to go with the older source.

Given such confusion, I now avoid writing ages and always write birth years. Keeps it much simpler for the DM who might be running the campaign in any given year.

--Eric

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Azar
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Posted - 17 Feb 2024 :  09:25:30  Show Profile Send Azar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mr. Boyd, I have a question pertaining to Demihuman Deities. Generally speaking, with the exceptions of Fenmarel Mestarine (the loner) and Shevarash (the avenger), how open are the various Elven religions to the possibility of outsiders witnessing their ceremonies?

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 17 Feb 2024 :  10:57:12  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My guess is probably about as interested as the Fair Folk are in having non-elves visit Evermeet.

By that I mean, very resistant, with the exception of certain elf-friends like Mirt, the Seven Sisters, Elminster, and senior Harpers.

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Azar
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Posted - 27 Feb 2024 :  00:28:53  Show Profile Send Azar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

My guess is probably about as interested as the Fair Folk are in having non-elves visit Evermeet.

By that I mean, very resistant, with the exception of certain elf-friends like Mirt, the Seven Sisters, Elminster, and senior Harpers.

--Eric



Essentially, Player Characters will need to perform a rather substantial favor for Corellon's children before they are granted the privilege? Much appreciated.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 27 Feb 2024 :  01:46:38  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Azar

quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

My guess is probably about as interested as the Fair Folk are in having non-elves visit Evermeet.

By that I mean, very resistant, with the exception of certain elf-friends like Mirt, the Seven Sisters, Elminster, and senior Harpers.

--Eric



Essentially, Player Characters will need to perform a rather substantial favor for Corellon's children before they are granted the privilege? Much appreciated.



Exactly. And "substantial" is probably on par with rescue a small kingdom of elves.

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Edited by - ericlboyd on 27 Feb 2024 01:47:36
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Mar 2024 :  22:40:04  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had an NPC that became an elf-friend and was welcome to Evermeet because he was part of a group (the others were elves) that found a legendary magic staff and returned it to Evermeet. The staff allowed High Magic to be cast without penalty outside of Evermeet.

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 08 Mar 2024 :  23:19:07  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great example.

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kysus
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Posted - 08 Apr 2024 :  21:38:24  Show Profile  Visit kysus's Homepage Send kysus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Eric i had a question for you i was just thinking about, do you think there could still be some secrets left behind undiscovered in myth glaurach that were never found by the elves during the last mythal series? and would you have any examples of some if there is any secrets still left?
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 08 Apr 2024 :  21:59:25  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kysus

Hey Eric i had a question for you i was just thinking about, do you think there could still be some secrets left behind undiscovered in myth glaurach that were never found by the elves during the last mythal series? and would you have any examples of some if there is any secrets still left?



Of course there are secrets!

For example, there is a lost folio penned by Teshyll the Aged recording his notes from speaking with Arun's Son about the fate of the lost city of Myth Adofhaer.

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kysus
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Posted - 10 Apr 2024 :  00:32:22  Show Profile  Visit kysus's Homepage Send kysus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh thats really cool, that name Teshyll the aged seems familiar are they in your write up for the myth glaurach online article, was there anymore information on who Teshyll the aged was, were they any elf noble of some sought or a really powerful human caster that was respected by the elves? Im also curious about what Teshyll and Arun's son thoughts were on the fate of that city.
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Returnip
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Posted - 24 Aug 2024 :  20:47:38  Show Profile Send Returnip a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, Eric. I have a question for you.

In the "trail of tears" article series there are words of wisdom from Tempus "echoing in the mind of anyone passing through the portal". Are those words supposed to echo in the mind after they arrive at a new scene as a sort of hint of what is to come or are they supposed to echo in the mind as people pass through the next portal leading to the next scene as a sort of conclusion of what they experienced at the last scene? Each can work equally fine I guess. I'm just curious as to what you intended.

And one additional question.

In 3.x City of Splendors - Waterdeep, in the sewers encounter tables, when you roll "thief" it refers to the text for explanation, but there is no explaining text for the thief entry. Was it supposed to be a reference to the previously mentioned "solitary rogues" that could be encountered there, basically just "rogue with 1dX levels" or did you have something more elaborate in mind for that, such as important rogue NPCs or teams of rogues from one of the thieves' guilds?

On the other hand you have different fingers.

Edited by - Returnip on 10 Sep 2024 12:58:58
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