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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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 Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 22:52:56
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Okay, I'm re-reading some of my older FR books, hoping to recapture some of the magic that first drew me in.
I've started Once around the Realms, and it's not nearly as 'charming' as it was when I knew less. 
Anyhow, everyone in the novel prays to 'Eo' -- is that a reference to Ao, and if so then why is he being referenced so often?!
So who is this, or why is it mispelled (repeatedly), and if it is merely Ao mispelled why is it that everyone in the Realms prays to this one being?
I understand the novel is supposed to be 'tongue-in-cheek', but this is just plain outright innacuracy.
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Edited by - Markustay on 09 Oct 2007 21:01:55
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 23:57:55
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Eo, Io, and Ao are old drinking buddies, right?  |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 00:27:23
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
Eo, Io, and Ao are old drinking buddies, right?
I guess so...  |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 00:56:35
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| Of course, there are the lost brothers, Oo, Uo, and sometimes Yo. |
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Daviot
Senior Scribe
USA
372 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 01:24:30
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| And let's not forget the demipower of Mishaps, Uh-oh. |
One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 01:28:28
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| They're just big fans of Michael Jackson. Captain EO and all. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 01:39:19
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
They're just big fans of Michael Jackson. Captain EO and all.
See, I didn't know whether to make the Micheal Jackson joke or the vowel joke, so I have to thank Murray for having my back on this one . . .  |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 11:38:54
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| Even getting irritated by Once Around the Realms is pointless. That book has very few redeeming qualities, even as satire. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 13:37:59
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| Probably good as a way to visit many of the realms in one book. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 16:31:32
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| WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2007 : 16:37:34
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I can't remeber does the book also reference the Overgod most high...
EiEiO ??? |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
1098 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 01:25:41
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Originally posted by Kuje
WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.
Negative. I included no events from Once Around the Realms into the Grand History. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 02:02:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.
Negative. I included no events from Once Around the Realms into the Grand History.
Groovy. :) |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 12:11:40
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Originally posted by Brian R. James
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.
Negative. I included no events from Once Around the Realms into the Grand History.
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Wenin
Senior Scribe
585 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2007 : 13:06:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
WOTC also lists it as noncanon, unlike the Double Diamond events, unless Brian changed that by adding material from the novel into the Grand History. Peers at Brian.
Do they have an actual published list? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 21:01:01
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I finished it a few days ago.
I remember enjoying it the first time around, when I barely new much about the Realms. It didn't seem anywhere near as good now that I actually know stuff.
Anyhow, I got most of the (satirical) references, except the following. Any help on what they relate to?
Gherri, Aahnnie, and Modesti - The Tabaxi warriors who invented the parachute.
Aleekhan and Sammhie - The two Khans from the Hordelands.
There are at least four normal sailing vessels named in the book - I was going to add them to our list of known FR ships, but should I bother if they aren't canon?
Also, I figured a way of 'fixing' a least a couple of the weird things in the book. Would that just be considered a total waste of time? |
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Caedwyr
Seeker
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Posted - 09 Oct 2007 : 21:27:31
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Gherri, Aahnnie, and Modesti - The Tabaxi warriors who invented the parachute.
Geronimo, a battle-cry used by paratroopers circa WWII. Sounds similar when you string all three names together. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2007 : 03:04:58
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| I bought the book when it came out. I took it it as a spoof to serious realms lore with RW similarities. I remember one such comparision to the A-team. If I have to explain the A-team, I am getting way too old. it was entertaining for what it was. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2007 : 05:20:24
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Never watched the A-team; not a single episode - EVER.
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Originally posted by Caedwyr
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Gherri, Aahnnie, and Modesti - The Tabaxi warriors who invented the parachute.
Geronimo, a battle-cry used by paratroopers circa WWII. Sounds similar when you string all three names together.
OMG - that's awful!
Perhaps worse then the Fantasy Island and Gilligan's Island references. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 10 Oct 2007 : 06:49:16
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| Ouf, I had forgotten about that one. I seem to remember that being the place where I degraded the book to dust collector. |
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Lord of Bones
Seeker
United Kingdom
78 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2007 : 22:05:53
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| I vaguely recall Maztica being described like Fantasy Island... |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
1089 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 03:36:01
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Originally posted by Markustay
Perhaps worse then the Fantasy Island and Gilligan's Island references.
Since you've read it recently, I seem to remember a Jaws reference as well, did I make that up? Almost as bad as Once Around the Realms was the ridiculos prologue to Realms of Magic, with Volo peddling his Volo's Guide to All Things Magical, the Revised, Authorized, & Expanded Edition to Justin Tyme. Silly, just plain silly. |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 04:28:51
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Originally posted by Markustay
Aleekhan and Sammhie - The two Khans from the Hordelands.
"Salaam aleikum" is an Islamic greeting that means "Peace be with you" or "Peace be upon you". Which it is depends on the translation; "aleikum" seems to have many variant spellings, as well. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 05:33:45
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Yes, there was a Jaws refernce, along with refernces to hundreds of other very un-Realmsian things.
Speaking of "FR weirdnesses" - Are the comics considered canon? I know the video games and Double diamond books aren't, yet much of their lore has made it into the canon Realms.
How about the article in Dragon #228 - Gangsters of the Underdark? It's an April issue, but I thought all things in Dragon were considered canon? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 05:50:10
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The comics are canon, since there are references in the Realmslore that pertain to certain aspects of the comics themselves -- like NPCs for example. And we've seen Steven Schend make an effort to include some of the material from the AD&D comics into his crafted Realmslore -- like the character of Kyriani for example, who is now a Lord of Waterdeep. And this from Steven himself -
"As the guy who used to be the liaison and approvals guy for TSR and the AD&D comic with Kim Yale (may she rest in peace) at DC, I can say unequivocally that the events and characters are all canonical.
Steven
who also led the charge to move the characters into the game material as well..."
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And it would appear WotC assumes some parts of the "Double Diamond" novels as canon [or at least will be], given the reference in the 'Doppelganger' entry of Monsters of Faerūn. WotC tell us that when the timeline reaches 1377 DR, some form of those novels will become canon.
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 06:13:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Markustay
Yes, there was a Jaws refernce, along with refernces to hundreds of other very un-Realmsian things.
Speaking of "FR weirdnesses" - Are the comics considered canon? I know the video games and Double diamond books aren't, yet much of their lore has made it into the canon Realms.
How about the article in Dragon #228 - {i]Gangsters of the Underdark[/i]? It's an April issue, but I thought all things in Dragon were considered canon?
Not completely sure about this, but I always thought that the April issues (not just that article)of Dragon was optional in the highest degree and used at own risk. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 09 Nov 2007 : 11:12:45
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Originally posted by Jorkens
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Originally posted by Markustay
Yes, there was a Jaws refernce, along with refernces to hundreds of other very un-Realmsian things.
Speaking of "FR weirdnesses" - Are the comics considered canon? I know the video games and Double diamond books aren't, yet much of their lore has made it into the canon Realms.
How about the article in Dragon #228 - Gangsters of the Underdark? It's an April issue, but I thought all things in Dragon were considered canon?
Not completely sure about this, but I always thought that the April issues (not just that article)of Dragon was optional in the highest degree and used at own risk.
There were some serious articles in April Dragons, but most of them were obvious jokes. |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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