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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Jun 2008 :  22:48:29  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Why yes, I believe it is. Vecna is the preeminent bad guy in Open Grave.

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Is that Vecna himself on the cover?




Makes sense, with the missing eye and all. Thanks.

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althen artren
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Yeah, the mere fact that he punked out the Lady of Pain on her own
plane makes him one of the upper eschelon villians in
DD history. I don't remember, was he on the Dragons top 20 villians
list in the last Dragon?
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The Sage
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Please don't mention Die Vecna Die. I have a hard enough time trying to forget that module even exists.

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  22:08:30  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Please don't mention Die Vecna Die. I have a hard enough time trying to forget that module even exists.



I need new glasses.

My brain read that first as Da Vecna Code!

Steven
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Markustay
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So... does Vecna enjoy laying his sacrificial victims out in the pose of the Vitruvian Man?

quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Why yes, I believe it is. Vecna is the preeminent bad guy in Open Grave.

VERY interesting.

An FR designer, working on a book with a Greyhawk baddie on the cover.

VERY interesting, indeed.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Steven
who'd actually think that would be a BLAST to write, were there still a market for Greyhawk fiction.....with a Brooklyn accent
Is there any particular aspect of GH that you'd like to write about?

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  16:24:20  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since I spend a fair amount of computer time playing the MMORPG Everquest 2, I was thinking how great it would be to group up online with some of my friends from Candlekeep.

If you're interested I can send you an invitation which will allow you to play for free through the end of July, or go to the website to check it out yourself. If you do download the trial and roll up a character be sure to pick the Befallen server so we can hang out!

When in game, send me a /tell. I'm usually logged in as Iakhovas (lvl 80 fae shadowknight) or Lathander (lvl 67 erudite monk).

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althen artren
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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  20:22:51  Show Profile Send althen artren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why did Die Vecna Die make you want to forget, Sage?
While it didn't exactly make sense with Vecna getting into Sigil,
I though the whole concept was sound, if you wrote outside
published lore and campaign rules, which I think makes for
better stories anyway. (Less rules makes more creativity.)
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  21:59:43  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren

Why did Die Vecna Die make you want to forget, Sage?
While it didn't exactly make sense with Vecna getting into Sigil,
I though the whole concept was sound, if you wrote outside
published lore and campaign rules, which I think makes for
better stories anyway. (Less rules makes more creativity.)



Sometimes it takes more creativity to work within rules.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 06 Jul 2008 :  22:46:57  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by althen artren

Why did Die Vecna Die make you want to forget, Sage?
While it didn't exactly make sense with Vecna getting into Sigil,
I though the whole concept was sound, if you wrote outside
published lore and campaign rules, which I think makes for
better stories anyway. (Less rules makes more creativity.)



Things published for a campaign setting, by the makers of that campaign setting, should adhere to the rules established for that campaign setting.

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The Sage
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Posted - 07 Jul 2008 :  01:38:31  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rinonalyrna and Wooly are definitely on the mark.

My main issue with the DVD module is, specifically, that it made a mockery of the Lady of Pain's power and position within the City of Doors. Considering her important place within the setting's mythos, this is something that should simply never have been allowed.

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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 07 Jul 2008 :  17:24:30  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Why yes, I believe it is. Vecna is the preeminent bad guy in Open Grave.

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Is that Vecna himself on the cover?




I (as DM)love to know this!

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Zanan
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Posted - 19 Jul 2008 :  10:06:36  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heya!

I just read the Dragon (Insider) article over at WotC and noted the distinct absence of the fate of Alusair. The start of her reign is mentioned, and the rise to power of Azoun V. Will we get a story about her and the life inbetween those events somewhere - which meant that you could not make any further comments on that?

Zanan

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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

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Posted - 19 Jul 2008 :  16:04:17  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Two timeline events were ommited from the final article which give a small bit of additional lore about Alusair. Beyond this, her fate remains unknown even to me.

1384 DR (Year of Three Streams Bloodied)
At the insistence of several members of Court and the young king himself, Azoun V is crowned King of Cormyr.
- Steel Regency ends. Alusair named High Marshal of the Realm, but spends most of her time in the Stonelands and West Reaches, visiting the Royal Court only rarely. Without the political support of his aunt, many of Azoun’s early reforms—most of them attempts to curtail formal but unexercised rights of the nobility—fail, causing a defection of many loyal factors

1390 DR (Year of the Walking Man)
Dowager Dragon Queen, Filfaeril Selazair Obarskyr, dies. Alusair attends the state funeral, argues briefly and privately with her nephew the king, and disappears altogether from Court. Rumors persist of her riding through the frontiers and borderlands, but no confirmed reports of her appearance exist following the burial of Filfaeril.

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Zanan
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Posted - 20 Jul 2008 :  00:23:51  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for that. Methinks some of the death of the queen info is in Shadowdale - Scouring of the Land.

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 20 Jul 2008 :  01:37:17  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zanan

Thanks for that. Methinks some of the death of the queen info is in Shadowdale - Scouring of the Land.



I don't think so. That module happens in 1375, according to the Grand History of the Realms.

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Zanan
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Posted - 20 Jul 2008 :  10:18:59  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Zanan

Thanks for that. Methinks some of the death of the queen info is in Shadowdale - Scouring of the Land.



I don't think so. That module happens in 1375, according to the Grand History of the Realms.



Cannae be that book anyways, as it hasn't got much to do with Cormyr either. Dunno why that sprang to my mind, might have been the adventure that goes before that or something else. As in: disregard the previous post of mine.

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Garen Thal
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Posted - 20 Jul 2008 :  18:35:37  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

Two timeline events were ommited from the final article which give a small bit of additional lore about Alusair. Beyond this, her fate remains unknown even to me.

1384 DR (Year of Three Streams Bloodied)
At the insistence of several members of Court and the young king himself, Azoun V is crowned King of Cormyr.
- Steel Regency ends. Alusair named High Marshal of the Realm, but spends most of her time in the Stonelands and West Reaches, visiting the Royal Court only rarely. Without the political support of his aunt, many of Azoun’s early reforms—most of them attempts to curtail formal but unexercised rights of the nobility—fail, causing a defection of many loyal factors

1390 DR (Year of the Walking Man)
Dowager Dragon Queen, Filfaeril Selazair Obarskyr, dies. Alusair attends the state funeral, argues briefly and privately with her nephew the king, and disappears altogether from Court. Rumors persist of her riding through the frontiers and borderlands, but no confirmed reports of her appearance exist following the burial of Filfaeril.
These two didn't make it into the Cormyr piece, but they are revealed in the Spellplague: The Wailing Years feature from back in February.
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monknwildcat
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  03:24:32  Show Profile  Visit monknwildcat's Homepage Send monknwildcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the work you've put into the Realms, Brian, as well as making yourself available here!

I'm a huge fan of searchable PDFs, and I wondered what's the best way to communicate to the DDI folks that your GHotR: Moonshaes lacks a download option--or if there's a purpose in the lack of an option?

It's too valuable to remain undownloadable!
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Brian R. James
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  14:54:37  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting. I wholeheartedly agree, but I suspect the DDI team doesn't have the resources to go back and PDF an older article. I may just make a PDF of it myself and post it here on Candlekeep! Give me a couple weeks though, as I'm still vacationing with my family.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  15:22:57  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by monknwildcat

Thanks for all the work you've put into the Realms, Brian, as well as making yourself available here!

I'm a huge fan of searchable PDFs, and I wondered what's the best way to communicate to the DDI folks that your GHotR: Moonshaes lacks a download option--or if there's a purpose in the lack of an option?

It's too valuable to remain undownloadable!



Actually, a lot of the recent stuff has been like that. WotC was really good, for a couple of years, at offering pdf downloads of everything. Now they've gotten away from that, which means we have to go back to copying and pasting into Word.

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monknwildcat
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  15:26:36  Show Profile  Visit monknwildcat's Homepage Send monknwildcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That would rock! Thanks, Brian!

Enjoy your vacation!
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monknwildcat
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  15:46:53  Show Profile  Visit monknwildcat's Homepage Send monknwildcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by monknwildcat


I'm a huge fan of searchable PDFs, and I wondered what's the best way to communicate to the DDI folks that your GHotR: Moonshaes lacks a download option--or if there's a purpose in the lack of an option?

It's too valuable to remain undownloadable!



Actually, a lot of the recent stuff has been like that. WotC was really good, for a couple of years, at offering pdf downloads of everything. Now they've gotten away from that, which means we have to go back to copying and pasting into Word.



That's frustrating! I only noticed it with the GHotR: Moonshae. Unfortunately, the Zhent Horseman was all set for download, but not my GHotR update.

I'll check who's point for the Dragon and Dungeon e-mags and try to communicate with them!
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Kuje
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  16:54:24  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe it's Chris Perkins, least thats who was called on at Gencon when people asked about the DDI content.

quote:
Originally posted by monknwildcat

I'll check who's point for the Dragon and Dungeon e-mags and try to communicate with them!


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Markustay
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  18:27:27  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In that case, don't bother. The guy obviously doesn't care what we want.

Yeah, I copied that when it first came out into Word, but copying it into Adobe I hadn't even considered...

Question:
Brian, since your last article featuring Nobanion, he has been left conspicuously absent from the FRCG - do you have anything further you would like to add about his current 'condition'?

Just wondering if he is dead, or just being ignored, actually...


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monknwildcat
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Posted - 21 Aug 2008 :  22:20:23  Show Profile  Visit monknwildcat's Homepage Send monknwildcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

I believe it's Chris Perkins, least thats who was called on at Gencon when people asked about the DDI content.

quote:
Originally posted by monknwildcat

I'll check who's point for the Dragon and Dungeon e-mags and try to communicate with them!





Thanks, Kuje! I appreciate the lead!
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Markustay
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Another Question, about the new setting -

Is 'Returned Abeir' only taking the place of Maztica, as we all thought?

I'm wondering because I don't see any mention of Anchorome or Katashaka (your creation), and since we don't have a 'world view' (on purpose?), its really hard to tell whats around it.

Because it mentions Evermeet nearby, I get the impression that it replaced Anchorome, and NOT Maztica. Its a little confusing.

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Edited by - Markustay on 23 Aug 2008 16:39:52
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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  18:16:45  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Markustay

Question:
Brian, since your last article featuring Nobanion, he has been left conspicuously absent from the FRCG - do you have anything further you would like to add about his current 'condition'?
That's a very good question. I don't know the reasons why things ended up the way they did. I can only tell you what I observed. In the first draft of the FRCG I received, Nobanion was listed as a human druid leader of Gulthandor. Since my Spellplage: The Wailing Years article covered the Vilhon Wilds briefly, I took the opportunity to "upsize" Nobanion into an exarch. This was a compromise of course, but better in my eyes than Lord Firemane being a mere human. Apparently the article was not thoroughly reviewed by the powers-that-be before it was posted, so it was quickly edited to its current version. It was my understanding at the time that the “correct” version would be revealed in the FRCG. But it appears that Nobanion was simply removed from the text. So I guess that leaves all of us to use Nobanion in any way we see fit.

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Brian R. James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer

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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  20:20:46  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Evermeet, FRCG p.132 “An echo of the fey refuge remains in Toril as an isle with the same shape and diameter, lying off the coast of the unfamiliar continent of Returned Abeir.”
Like you Markus, I read this as Returned Abeir replacing the lands *North* of Maztica. Using the scale provided on both 4E maps, you also find that Returned Abeir isn’t all that big a place; hardly deserving the continent moniker.

Anyway, I put together a quick map I how I see the Trackless Sea in 1479 DR. You can view it at http://www.geonomicon.com/realms/4ETracklessSea.png

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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 24 Aug 2008 :  20:42:10  Show Profile  Visit monknwildcat's Homepage Send monknwildcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for sharing the map! It helps tremendously with visualization, Brian!
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