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Firestorm
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 Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 03:01:33
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Any backstory on this guy from the Erevis Cale trilogy? Or stats by any chance? I would figure that a 10000 year old creature who, according to novels, has single handedly destroyed flights of dragons and entire worlds and gained enough power that "Nobody but a god would dare confront him", should have some suitable writeups.
It was kind of fun watching the Shade princes Gawk when they discovered that he created the rain of fire, something they obviously considered impossible or unlikely, even knowing how powerful their own father is.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 03:15:53
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There hasn't been any significant officially published material beyond the novels. Paul's managed to share a few tidbits through his replies here at Candlekeep, though.
SPOILERS for the 'Erevis Cale' trilogy:-
Like the githzerai and githyanki, the githvyrik split from their progenitor gith kin when they freed themselves from the mindflayers. Unlike the githzerai and githyanki, however, the githvyrik number only a handful or so, and all of them are so unique that calling them a race is really more a convenience to reflect their shared origin rather than a suggestion that they share physical characteristics or a similar culture.
Here's a little more from Paul, from May '05:-
I'm delighted you're a Cale fan. Lots more to come on that front, starting with Midnight's Mask this November and a follow up trilogy beginning next year.
I do not intend to detail the origin of the Gith. The Sojourner (Vhostym) is a creature that I've called a githvyrik, another offshoot of the gith split. In my conception, the githvyrik numbered vastly fewer than either the githzerai or the githyanki, and while those races took to a single plane and established their societies and culture, the more powerful individualists among them at the time of the split did their own thing, travelling worlds and planes (like the Sojourner), taking up residence in the underdark, etc. In fact, calling the githvyrik a race is somewhat of a misnomer. I regard each of them as unique -- powerful and very old spellcasters, yes; derived from the same genetic stock as the other gith, yes; but otherwise quite different. For all intents and purposes, Vhostym might as well be solitary and, in fact, almost all githvyrik are.
Anyway, Vhostym has a bunch of scenes in Midnight's Mask, so if you want to more about him as an individual, you'll have plenty to read.
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Sage,
Agreed. Without a shared culture and society, and numbering so few, the githvyrik would worship according to their individual proclivities and no generalization would be possible.
Vhostym, in fact, is as close to an atheist as someone whose visited FR can be. Not an atheist in the sense that he does not believe that Cyric, Bane, Torm, et al exist, but an athiest in the sense that he does not believe them to be divine beings.
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Firestorm
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Canada
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 15:58:43
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| Thank you very much. God I would love to see stats on this guy. Looking at what he was capable of, he must be a high epic level mage. Not to mention he is also multiclassed as a very powerful Psionicist too. Must be CR well above 40 |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 23:33:06
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Ok, I just reread something and I need clarification. In the book Midnight's mask. Spoilers:
Did Vhostim really just wipe out an entire one half of the towers of eternal eclipse in under an hour? The same very prominent cleric tower that is detailed in "Lords of darkness"? Fully staffed with 12 high ranking priests, 6 powerful mages, and 100 soldiers? Then magically moved the entire thing to a far off Island off the coast of Sembia?
What freaking level would he have to be to pull this these stunts off as a wizard? Im just curious. Just based on his wizardry, and of the deeds he claims to have done(Destroying flights of dragons single handedly, destroying worlds, being over 10000 years old, knowing none but a deity avatar would dare fight with him), he strikes me as being almost as powerful as a chosen of Mystra, and that is just in wizard levels. Im guessing he has at least Wizard 20, with probably at least 6 levels in Epic, and a few in Acm, say 5.
It is also noted in the book that he is a far above average psionicist. Megadon must be at least level 6 in psionics or so, but claims the Sojourner is far FAR more powerful than he. So at least 10 or more in psionics(im not completely familiar with how psionicists are given stats)
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 00:14:11
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| Indeed he did but Dragons of Faerun has further info about the towers that you might want to read since Eric added further passages about the towers since the DoF events take place after the trilogy of novels. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 00:51:32
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As I recall, it was largely part of the continuity problem due to the concurrent development of PoF and Paul's Midnight's Mask novel. Eric said that both George and Paul helped to determine an explanation that he could manage to work into DoF. Eric's details in DoF reconcile the apparent contradiction that exists between Power of Faerūn and Paul's novel.
More from Eric -
"Actually three things happened to the Twin Towers. Two things happened to one tower (Midnight's Mask and Power of Faerun) and one thing happened to the other (to be revealed).
The explanation of the chain of events (and the 3rd event) appears in an upcoming product [Dragons of Faerūn].
If you're gaming in 1374, assume the starting situation is as defined in Power of Faerun and ends as defined in Power of Faerun.
--Eric"
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Aug 2007 : 23:24:31
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| I actually thought this character was the one "bad spot" in an otherwise excellent trilogy. I am not a fan of overpowered heroes OR villains. |
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