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Alaundo
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Posted - 29 Jun 2007 :  19:57:59  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Well met

This is a Book Club thread for Scream of Stone (Book 3 of The Watercourse trilogy), by Philip Athans. Please discuss chapters 16 - 30 herein.

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I liked the characterization of the wemic, Second Chief Gahrzig, in Chapter 16. I cannot think of another novel, Forgotten Realms or otherwise, that even feature wemics. Sadly, this is probably the last time we’ll see him.

Bringing Halina back into the story in Chapter 17 was a pleasant surprise. After Korvan abandoned her to marry Phyrea, I figured we’d never see this character again. The Sisterhood of the Pastorals is an excellent addition to Realmslore. Too many times in Realms products, worshipers of Chauntea are portrayed only as peasant farmers or druids.

In Chapter 20 we learn about King Azoun IV’s death in distant Cormyr. I find myself really liking this Warden Truesilver character.

We learn more about the mysterious assassin T’juyu in Chapter 21. We know she is a shapeshifter from the Chondalwood, but I’m still not clear what species she is exactly. Another type of naga perhaps?

The dialog between Pristoleph and Devorast in Chapter 28 is simply fantastic. It’s almost as though these two are becoming fast friends. Almost.

Bringing Korvan back to life was a shocker. But is he truly alive? The letter to his mother is brilliant. I almost feel sorry for him.

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Jorkens
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quote:
Originally posted by Brian R. James

I liked the characterization of the wemic, Second Chief Gahrzig, in Chapter 16. I cannot think of another novel, Forgotten Realms or otherwise, that even feature wemics. Sadly, this is probably the last time we’ll see him.

Bringing Halina back into the story in Chapter 17 was a pleasant surprise. After Korvan abandoned her to marry Phyrea, I figured we’d never see this character again. The Sisterhood of the Pastorals is an excellent addition to Realmslore. Too many times in Realms products, worshipers of Chauntea are portrayed only as peasant farmers or druids.

In Chapter 20 we learn about King Azoun IV’s death in distant Cormyr. I find myself really liking this Warden Truesilver character.

We learn more about the mysterious assassin T’juyu in Chapter 21. We know she is a shapeshifter from the Chondalwood, but I’m still not clear what species she is exactly. Another type of naga perhaps?

The dialog between Pristoleph and Devorast in Chapter 28 is simply fantastic. It’s almost as though these two are becoming fast friends. Almost.

Bringing Korvan back to life was a shocker. But is he truly alive? The letter to his mother is brilliant. I almost feel sorry for him.




I seem to remember there being a few scenes with a Wemik in Evermeet. That is the only one I can think of though.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 08 Jul 2007 :  22:40:55  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There's a story in Elaine Cunningham's Best of the Realms anthology that features wemics, and a wemic narrator, and I believe Venom's Taste tells us that one of Zelia's "mind seeds" is a wemic.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 08 Jul 2007 22:41:41
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Kajehase
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

There's a story in Elaine Cunningham's Best of the Realms anthology that features wemics, and a wemic narrator, and I believe Venom's Taste tells us that one of Zelia's "mind seeds" is a wemic.



And Kiva's henchperson in Magehound (also by Elaine) is a wemic.

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KnightErrantJR
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A round of Wemics for everyone.

On a more serious note, I was wondering if Willem was actually alive again as well. It seems this would normally be outside of the abilities of even a powerful Red Wizard, and it did seem as if he was carefully "rebuilding" Willem as opposed to actually bringing him back to life.

I found it kind of disturbing that both Pristoleph and Ivar seem to know that Phyrea is mentally ill, and yet they just kind of "work around" her. I know neither man is really known for his compassion, but Pristoleph does seem to genuinely care for her.

As to Pristoleph and Ivar, its not too much of a shock that the two are getting along. Ivar seems to respect people that at least known and admit who and what they are, so Pristoleph should fit this bill fairly well.

I agree with Brian that I like the Sisterhood of Pastorals. Its an logical take on a religious community of Chaunteans.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 03 Oct 2007 :  02:50:22  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

On a more serious note, I was wondering if Willem was actually alive again as well. It seems this would normally be outside of the abilities of even a powerful Red Wizard, and it did seem as if he was carefully "rebuilding" Willem as opposed to actually bringing him back to life.


That part of the book...wasn't explained very well. Much of the stuff in this book made little sense to me.

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I found it kind of disturbing that both Pristoleph and Ivar seem to know that Phyrea is mentally ill, and yet they just kind of "work around" her. I know neither man is really known for his compassion, but Pristoleph does seem to genuinely care for her.




Would you be further disturbed if I said I was constantly hoping Phyrea would take the advice of her loving ghostly tormenters and...you know? Do something with that sword of hers?

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 03 Oct 2007 02:50:51
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KnightErrantJR
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

On a more serious note, I was wondering if Willem was actually alive again as well. It seems this would normally be outside of the abilities of even a powerful Red Wizard, and it did seem as if he was carefully "rebuilding" Willem as opposed to actually bringing him back to life.


That part of the book...wasn't explained very well. Much of the stuff in this book made little sense to me.

quote:
I found it kind of disturbing that both Pristoleph and Ivar seem to know that Phyrea is mentally ill, and yet they just kind of "work around" her. I know neither man is really known for his compassion, but Pristoleph does seem to genuinely care for her.




Would you be further disturbed if I said I was constantly hoping Phyrea would take the advice of her loving ghostly tormenters and...you know? Do something with that sword of hers?




Why RF, the way you talk, I'd think you didn't like Phyrea.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Why RF, the way you talk, I'd think you didn't like Phyrea.





Let's just say that when it comes to Phyrea, my normally goody-two-shoes personality goes out the window.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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