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Kalevala
Acolyte
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 Posted - 04 Jun 2007 : 11:30:01
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Hi,
I'm starting a campaign based in Waterdeep and I need to generate the weather for a full year and was wondering which table would be the closest to the city: the Silver Marches, the Mysteries of the Moonsea, or the DMG (temperate?) table? Are there any other weather tables which would give even closer results to Waterdeep?
I remember that a few years back there was a small frame on the Wizards' main site that had the weather of Waterdeep for the day. Are they archived somewhere? If so, I wouldn't have to roll for random weather at all. But all I could find was the legend page for that feature http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=fr/weather
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Edited by - Kalevala on 04 Jun 2007 11:31:00
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 : 14:25:10
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I seem to remember reading somewhere that Waterdeep's weather patterns are similar/mirrored from the weather in Seattle, WA. Where and when I read that I don't remember this early morning.
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Kalevala
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 : 14:31:13
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Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Waterdeep's weather patterns are similar/mirrored from the weather in Seattle, WA. Where and when I read that I don't remember this early morning.
~Kes
Heh, that's certainly interesting. Not sure how to implement that into game terms, though. I might check the Seattle weather reports if nothing else comes up  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 04 Jun 2007 : 15:50:27
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Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Waterdeep's weather patterns are similar/mirrored from the weather in Seattle, WA. Where and when I read that I don't remember this early morning.
~Kes
That was also what the WOTC weather thingie was based on, until it disappeared when they redid the site. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2007 : 19:59:37
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
I seem to remember reading somewhere that Waterdeep's weather patterns are similar/mirrored from the weather in Seattle, WA. Where and when I read that I don't remember this early morning.
~Kes
That was also what the WOTC weather thingie was based on, until it disappeared when they redid the site.
Ah, that must be where I got that notion to begin with. It's hard to make my brain work at 6am. 
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2007 : 21:25:07
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Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
Ah, that must be where I got that notion to begin with. It's hard to make my brain work at 6am.
~Kes
Could be, could be. And drink some more coffee/tea/whatever. :) |
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Kalevala
Acolyte
43 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jun 2007 : 23:33:32
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Originally posted by The Sage
You'll also find that most of the Waterdeep sourcebooks themselves, provide brief references on what the local weather can be like at times.
Yeah, there's even a sidebar about it in the FRCS and it's somewhat helpful too, although it doesn't actually help me generate a random weather sequence.
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Originally posted by Kuje
That was also what the WOTC weather thingie was based on, until it disappeared when they redid the site.
Kes & Kuje, I think I might go with the Seattle weather, but so far I haven't found any weather report archives. We'll see. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2007 : 00:53:37
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Originally posted by Kalevala
Yeah, there's even a sidebar about it in the FRCS and it's somewhat helpful too, although it doesn't actually help me generate a random weather sequence.
Well, those basic details do provide you with enough of an idea of what random weather can be like. In fact, those sections helped me to plot my own basic random weather table for Waterdeep, when I decided to generate a table for my own campaigns.
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Edited by - The Sage on 05 Jun 2007 00:55:10 |
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Kalevala
Acolyte
43 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2007 : 10:40:30
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kalevala
Yeah, there's even a sidebar about it in the FRCS and it's somewhat helpful too, although it doesn't actually help me generate a random weather sequence.
Well, those basic details do provide you with enough of an idea of what random weather can be like. In fact, those sections helped me to plot my own basic random weather table for Waterdeep, when I decided to generate a table for my own campaigns.
You're right, of course. Later that day, I thougth of making my own random weather table too. I guess it just never occured to me earlier  |
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Matthus
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2007 : 18:18:19
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Originally posted by Matthus
Maybe you want to try this side.
Than you don't have to do the whole work alone 
http://realmshelps.dandello.net/index.shtml
That's kind of a cool site. Too bad none of the stuff is downloadable...
I'm particularly impressed by the fact they got the date right. |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
USA
565 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jun 2007 : 18:43:10
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Hello-
I'm not sure if this fits in 100% here or not - but I just had an interesting idea.
WOTC could print a calendar - I'm thinking page-a-day variety - and have the actual Realms dates on it in addition to the Earth-dates. They could choose a place (like Waterdeep) and have moon-phases as well as weather listed on each day - and even a bit of news, or an adventure hook etc. I know I for one would buy such a critter! It would not even have to be Waterdeep-centric if they didnt want it to be....
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Kalevala
Acolyte
43 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2007 : 14:03:27
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Originally posted by Matthus
Maybe you want to try this side.
Than you don't have to do the whole work alone
http://realmshelps.dandello.net/index.shtml
Wow, that's... maybe even more than I was looking for. Thank you, sir! 
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Originally posted by Dhomal
WOTC could print a calendar - I'm thinking page-a-day variety - and have the actual Realms dates on it in addition to the Earth-dates. They could choose a place (like Waterdeep) and have moon-phases as well as weather listed on each day - and even a bit of news, or an adventure hook etc. I know I for one would buy such a critter! It would not even have to be Waterdeep-centric if they didnt want it to be....
Try this:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/frx/20050525x
IIRC, it doesn't have RL dates but it's got the moon phases and it's printable.
For the adventure hooks, you can copy'n'paste them to the calendar from here:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fr/hookgenerator
I hope that helps |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jun 2007 : 17:23:12
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Originally posted by Dhomal
WOTC could print a calendar - I'm thinking page-a-day variety - and have the actual Realms dates on it in addition to the Earth-dates.
It's not hard to make a similar chart for yourself, equating real dates to Realms dates. But you have to assume that 1 January is the first day of Hammer, and that leap year and Shieldmeet happen in the same year.
There was actually a little software program hosted here on the main site that used your computer's date setting to tell you the Realms-date, but I had issues with it in the past, and when I tried it yesterday, it didn't work right. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 06 Jun 2007 17:25:03 |
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Kalevala
Acolyte
43 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 00:59:48
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But you have to assume that 1 January is the first day of Hammer, and that leap year and Shieldmeet happen in the same year.
I'm not an expert on this but I'd think that equating the FR calendar equinoxes and solstices to their RL counterparts would be the only 'reliable' way to synchronize the two. Whether that results in Jan 1st being the same as Hammer 1st or not, I'm not certain. Just my 2 cp... |
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Marquant Volker
Learned Scribe
Greece
273 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jun 2007 : 14:59:21
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I found this tit-bit of knowledge, in Dragon 321 there is an article by Ed Greenwood called "Nurneneene's Marvelous Masks"
Its about the famous mask maker Nurneene and her shop, a great read indeed, where Ed describes the typical roof in Waterdeep, which is sloped from side to side and canted in the way that most rain-water falls in the back side of the roof, thus minimizing the amount of water who falls in the main street and the shop's main window.
Now since i dont know the cannon weather in the City of Splendors i can guess from the above that it rains a lot, and that make sense considering that is a sea-side city and has a mountain right in front of it.
In my own campaign i usually have Waterdeep rainy or with lots of fog, and then amost welcome break with sunlight and clear blue sky
Somehow i could compare Waterdeep's weather with London's, but its just my guess, no facts included
Since you run a campaign in Waterdeep i reccoment you to have a look at Ed's whole article in Dragon 321
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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore
Netherlands
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Kalevala
Acolyte
43 Posts |
Posted - 09 Jun 2007 : 21:36:27
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Originally posted by Marquant Volker
Since you run a campaign in Waterdeep i reccoment you to have a look at Ed's whole article in Dragon 321
As it is, I don't have that issue, but I'll certainly look for it at my local fantasy gaming store. I hope they still have it. If they do, it'd be old enough to be in the 1 bargain shelve.
About umbrellas: I don't know. Parasols maybe? Sounds like a question for Ed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jun 2007 : 03:25:53
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Kalevala
Acolyte
43 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jun 2007 : 16:03:01
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Alas, I couldn't find Dragon issue #321 
On umbrellas: I wonder what they're made of and who makes them and where... |
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Marquant Volker
Learned Scribe
Greece
273 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jun 2007 : 21:47:17
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Sad mews, but dont give up hope! After all the article is not a "must" read, just a colourfull description of a specific (minor) location plus some tit-bits of knowledge that i founded interesting. Waterdeep has many other locations (mostly in City of Splendours sourcebook) to introduce to your players so the lack of one wont be much of a problem.
PS: Cant find my umbrella, now where did i put my hooded cloack?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 23:13:41
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Originally posted by Kalevala
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But you have to assume that 1 January is the first day of Hammer, and that leap year and Shieldmeet happen in the same year.
I'm not an expert on this but I'd think that equating the FR calendar equinoxes and solstices to their RL counterparts would be the only 'reliable' way to synchronize the two. Whether that results in Jan 1st being the same as Hammer 1st or not, I'm not certain. Just my 2 cp...
I just had a random thought, which caused me to resurrect this thread...
The reason this isn't reliable is because, officially, the equinox and solstice dates are always the same in the Realms (at least, it is on the Forgotten Realms Calendar Tool). Regardless of whether or not Shieldmeet happens, the dates of the equinoxes and solstices always fall on the same date -- Ches 19 for Spring Equinox, Kythorn 20 for the Summer Solstice, Elient 21 for the Autumn Equinox, and Nightal 20 for the Winter Solstice. In the real world, these dates tend to shift between a couple of different days. So, if we used the equinoxes to line up the dates, then we have to reset the calculation every year or two.
My method of just saying Hammer 1 = January 1 is, admittedly, rather arbitrary. But, the equinoxes still wind up happening within a couple of days of each other, and it does make for easier consideration of the Faerūnian calendar. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 22 Aug 2007 23:14:53 |
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evildmguy
Acolyte
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2007 : 02:23:20
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I have both Kama's weather generator and Milieu's weather generator program. Both are able to create calendar's for FR and track the moon. I prefer Milieu's for what it can do and KWG kept crashing on me but that could be my computer. So, those are options.
If you really want, send me an email to (jonport @ mchsi . com) and I can create you a couple years worth of weather, with the phases of the moon, and send a variety of reports. If you want, I am offering this. Email me and we can talk more about it.
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