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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 15 May 2007 :  18:39:51  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Okay, so I'm trying to catalog all my game material, and for some reason, I decided to list edition versions for the D&D stuff. So, which ones are 3.5, and which are 3.0?

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Posted - 15 May 2007 :  19:22:11  Show Profile  Visit questing gm's Homepage Send questing gm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
AFAIK,

3.0
1. Faith and Pantheons
2. Magic of Faerun
3. Races of Faerun
4. Silver Marches
5. Unapproachable East
6. Monster Compedium
7. Underdark

3.5
1. Player's Guide to Faerun
2. Serpent Kingdom
3. Shining South
4. Lost Empires of Faerun
5. Waterdeep
6. Dragons of Faerun
7. Champions of Ruin
8. Champions of Valor

Em...did you want a list of non FR books as well ?

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quote:
Originally posted by questing gm


Em...did you want a list of non FR books as well ?



Please, if you don't mind. I tried to Google this info, but either my search-fu isn't up to the task, or it's hidden deeper than I felt like looking...

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Races is like half and half actually, if I recall right. It was a change over book that was a middle ground between the two rule changes, so it has some of each.

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Posted - 15 May 2007 :  21:12:41  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Bane's Homepage Send Chosen of Bane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As for core material,

3.5
All "Complete XXX" books. (Warrior, Adventurer, etc...)
All "Environment books" (Sandstorm, Frostburn, etc...)
All "Races of..." books. (Stone, Wild, etc...)
Book of Exalted Deeds
Cityscape
Dungeon Scape
Draconomicon
Dragon Magic
Dungeon Masters Guide II
Expanded Psionics Handbook
Libris Mortis
Lords of Madness
Magic Item Compendium
Magic of Incarnum
Monster Manual 3 & 4
Planar Handbook
Players Handbook II
Spell Compendium
Tome of Battle, Book of Nine Swords
Tome of Magic: Pact, Shadow, and Truename Magic
Weapons of Legacy

3.0
All soft cover class books (Defenders of Faith, Sword and fist, etc..)
Book of Challenges
Book of Vile Darkness
Deities and Demigods
Epic Levels Handbook
Fiend Folio
Herobuilders Guide
Manual of the Planes
Miniatures Handbook
Monster Manual II
Psionics Handbook
Savage Species
Stronghold Builders Guide

If I missed a few I'm sorry. These are all I could think of.


Edit: Moved Exalted Deeds to 3.5 list and added Epic Level Handbook which was previously ommitted in error.

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Excellent! Thank you!

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quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Bane

As for core material,

3.5
All "Complete XXX" books. (Warrior, Adventurer, etc...)
All "Environment books" (Sandstorm, Frostburn, etc...)
All "Races of..." books. (Stone, Wild, etc...)
Cityscape
Dungeon Scape
Draconomicon
Dragon Magic
Dungeon Masters Guide II
Expanded Psionics Handbook
Libris Mortis
Lords of Madness
Magic Item Compendium
Magic of Incarnum
Monster Manual 3 & 4
Planar Handbook
Players Handbook II
Spell Compendium
Tome of Battle, Book of Nine Swords
Tome of Magic: Pact, Shadow, and Truename Magic
Weapons of Legacy

3.0
All soft cover class books (Defenders of Faith, Sword and fist, etc..)
Book of Challenges
Book of Exalted Deeds
Book of Vile Darkness
Deities and Demigods
Fiend Folio
Herobuilders Guide
Manual of the Planes
Miniatures Handbook
Monster Manual II
Psionics Handbook
Savage Species
Stronghold Builders Guide

If I missed a few I'm sorry. These are all I could think of.



VERY minor nitpick here, but the Book of Exalted Deeds is 3.5, otherwise I think your list is perfect.

And Kuje, I believe you're thinking of the Fiend Folio. That was the release at the center of the change, IIRC.
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quote:
Originally posted by Darkmeer

nd Kuje, I believe you're thinking of the Fiend Folio. That was the release at the center of the change, IIRC.
/d



No, I'm not. I'm specifically thinking of a FR book, which is why I said Races of Faerun, which is true since there's a passage that references the revised core books. However, Unapproachable East is also another because it has some passages that reference the 3.5e core books, which weren't printed till a few months later.

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Posted - 16 May 2007 :  01:38:13  Show Profile  Visit Darkmeer's Homepage Send Darkmeer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Darkmeer

nd Kuje, I believe you're thinking of the Fiend Folio. That was the release at the center of the change, IIRC.
/d



No, I'm not. I'm specifically thinking of a FR book, which is why I said Races of Faerun, which is true since there's a passage that references the revised core books. However, Unapproachable East is also another because it has some passages that reference the 3.5e core books, which weren't printed till a few months later.



Hey Kuje, I thought you were talking about the races of series, not the R.o. Faerun specifically. Sorry about that.

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quote:
Originally posted by Darkmeer

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Darkmeer

nd Kuje, I believe you're thinking of the Fiend Folio. That was the release at the center of the change, IIRC.
/d



No, I'm not. I'm specifically thinking of a FR book, which is why I said Races of Faerun, which is true since there's a passage that references the revised core books. However, Unapproachable East is also another because it has some passages that reference the 3.5e core books, which weren't printed till a few months later.



Hey Kuje, I thought you were talking about the races of series, not the R.o. Faerun specifically. Sorry about that.

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No problem. My fault for only writing Races. :) I should have wrote Races of Faerun. So, no worries.

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unapproachable east is actually a middle ground too, it was in the same month as 3.5. But according to wizards its almost completly 3.5
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Races of Faerun, Unapproachable East, and Savage Species are 3.25, they aren't truly 3.5 nor 3.0, but incorporate a bit of each. I think WotC officially calls them 3.5, but not 100% sure on that.

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What about the FRCS? IIRC that is also 3.0 and I don't see it mentioned in any of the lists above.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

What about the FRCS? IIRC that is also 3.0 and I don't see it mentioned in any of the lists above.



I'm quite certain that one is 3.0.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Kyrene

What about the FRCS? IIRC that is also 3.0 and I don't see it mentioned in any of the lists above.



I'm quite certain that one is 3.0.



Aye, and the two modules that came out before the FRCS are also semi-3.0. The modules are Into the Dragons Lair and Pool of Radiance:Attack on Myth Drannor. I say they are semi-3.0 because the rules hadn't been hammered out all the way when they were printed. The Cormyr module is also missing from the list, but it's 3.5e.

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quote:
Originally posted by Darkmeer


VERY minor nitpick here, but the Book of Exalted Deeds is 3.5, otherwise I think your list is perfect.

And Kuje, I believe you're thinking of the Fiend Folio. That was the release at the center of the change, IIRC.
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Why is Book of Exalted Deeds 3.5, but Underdark is 3.0? Both were first printed in Oct 2003, which is three months after 3.5 came out. Neither book references 3.5 in the first few pages that I found.

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Underdark and Unapproachable East are both 3.5.

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quote:
Originally posted by EytanBernstein

Underdark and Unapproachable East are both 3.5.



If the Underdark is 3.5, can you price/build the Bracers of Blinding Strike that are listed within that book, under 3.5 rules? I'm not being contrary. I was in a discussion on the WoTC boards and people said the item couldn't be built in 3.5, and it was priced incorrectly in the Underdark book.

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I have to agree with Wenin, Uunderdark sure looks 3e and not 3.5e.

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The Players Guide to Faerun as the official update to 3.5 for all 3.0 FR books states:
“Underdark actually came out after the revision of the D&D Core rulebooks. You should be able to use all the material from these three sourcebooks [i. e. Races of Faerun, Unapproachable East, which both have anticipated much of the 3.5 changes, and Underdark] without difficulty.”

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Ah, excellent information Ayunken!

Thanks!


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