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KnightErrantJR
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 Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 01:58:50
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So I've been playing with the idea of making up some affiliations for FR religions, especially as a guide to where and when a character would gain their titles in the faith. I started working with the Church of Akadi, and wanted to get some feedback on it.
I feel like I gave out a few too many powers over the course of the progression, but at the same time, I wanted to make sure to get all of the ranks in as part of the progression.
Let me know what you think of this, so I can kind of fine tune what I am doing here. And thanks to Eric Boyd and our very own Dargoth for coming up with some of these FR affiliations to show how cool an idea this can be.
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 02:05:53
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The Church of Akadi
Symbol: A white cloud, often on a blue background
Background, Goals, and Dreams: Much of the background and goals of the church of Akadi can be found in the 2nd Edition product Faiths and Avatars and the 3rd edition supplement Faiths and Pantheons. In general, they favor change, self discovery, and the opposition of Grumbar and creatures of elemental earth.
Enemies and Allies: Akadi's greatest enemy is Grumbar, Lord of Elemental Earth, although the Elemental Princes of Earth are also among her enemies as well. Aerdrie Faenya, Quorlin, Remnis, Shaundakul, Stillsong, Stronmaus, Syranita are all allies of Akadi, and their priesthoods tend to be allied to, or at least favorably disposed toward, Akadi.
Members: Not every divine caster or worshiper of Akadi is a member of the Church of Akadi, and some worshipers of Akadi that are not divine casters are indeed active in the church as an organization. The Chuch of Akadi is only a loose organization, and it has no specific head. Favors, promotions, and tasks are usually passed along among the regional clergy, and rarely does the entire church take on a specific task. Once per year, at Midsummer, when the faithful converge on the First Shrine, this is the only time the the church is likely to even begin to deal with overall matters of concern to the faith, and this is a rare occurance.
Tribal worshipers (such as shaman of the Tuigan or isolated tribes of aaracokra and raptorans) are rarely active members of the church as a whole, and there are adventuring members of various races that can naturally fly but are not divine casters, as well as some arcane casters, that may be active members of the church.
Most active members of the church have made the trip to the First Shrine, but there are some clerics that have been active in church activities and its structure for years whose only connection to the larger church is a master or former master that carries news and information from the Midsummer meeting back to them at some point during the year.
Type: Religious Organization
Scale: 11 (multi regional)
Criterion Affiliation Score Modifier
Is divine caster of Akadi +1/2 caster level
Creates a magic item that summons creatures of elemental air +1/10000 gp worth
Creates magic item that allows flight +1/10000 gp worth
Defeats an servant of Grumbar (must be at least equal CR to the character) +1/4 the creature's CR
Each region of Faerun the character has been to +1
Character has successfully summoned an air elemental +1
Character has a holy symbol prepared by an air elemental +1
Character is a member of a race that can fly naturally or an air genasi +1
Character has used riding skill to fly a flying mount
(does not stack with races that can naturally fly) +1
Character has 10 or more ranks in Knowledge, geography +1
Character has 10 or more ranks in Knowledge, the planes +1
Character has 10 or more ranks in Survival +1
Has magic item that grants flight +1
Character has the leadership feat +1
Character has the epic leadership feat +1
Character is an aaracokra or raptoran (does not stack with above) +2
Charater is heirophant, elemental archon, divine disciple, or horizon walker +2
Character has completed task related to the faith +2
Makes a pilgramage to the First Shrine of the Queen of Air +2
Associates with creatures with the earth subtype or a Goliath -2
Has been defeated by a servant of Grumbar -4
Has never flown -6
Titles, Benefits, and Duties: Your ability to interact with creatures native to the elemental planes, both allied to and opposed to your deity, increases as you gain influence within the church. You also gain the ability to craft magic relating to the elemental plane of air more efficiently, though you make yourself more distant from creatures of elemental earth as well.
Affiliation Score Title: Benefits and Duties
3 or lower Fledgling (no affiliation)
4-8 Winged One: You gain +2 on diplomacy
and bluff checks against
creatures with the air
subtype, and you gain +2 on turning checks to rebuke or
command air elementals, if
you have the Air domain.
9-12 Air of the Goddess: You gain a +2 bonus
on your intimidate
check versus
creatures with the
earth subtype, and you gain a +2 bonus to
turning checks against earth elementals if
you have the Air
domain.
13-16 Breeze of Light: You gain +1 to hit
creatures with the earth
subtype; You take a -10
penalty on diplomacy
checks with creatures
that have the earth sub-
type.
17-20 Zephyr: You can create magic items that
either use spells with the air
descriptor, or magic items that
allow you to fly for -10% in
experience point cost.
21-25 Mistral: You can create magic items that
either use spells with the air
descriptor, or magic items that
allow you to fly for -10% in gold
piece cost.
26-29 Sirocco: You gain an honor guard of 4-6
priests, divine champions, or
creatures that are loyal to Akadi
(CR 8); You must build a
permanent, manned shrine or church to Akadi.
30 or higher Whirlwind: You form an informal alliance
with a powerful leader (one
with a 30+ score in their own
affiliation) of one of Akadi's
allied faiths.
Executive Powers: Crusade, Gift, Raid
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 03:39:26
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I'm already starting to wonder if one "fix" might not be to assume that anyone that is going to participate in the greater church as an affiliation should be assumed to have flown with the aid of another higher level cleric, which would move the fledgling "rank" out of the list, and move the Winged One up to the unaffiliated status, and then just explain that someone interested in becoming involved in the overall church should have the initiation performed first.
If this is the case, I'd likely drop either the Sirocco bonus as it stands or the Whirlwind one.
The other option is that I'm thinking of consolidating the 10% discount on magic items for both costs instead of loosing either one of the above, since the magic item has to use a spell with the air descriptor or allow flight in order to gain the bonus, and the normal discount benefit is an across the board discount on all types of magic items.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 05:42:58
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| Id consider adding one that gives a magic item to the player either an item that allows the character to fly or if the player can already fly an item that improves its manuverablity |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 05:59:00
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| Good call Dargoth, I never even thought of that. |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 06:09:56
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Hello-
I like the information in the general sense - but i am unfamiliar with where the Affiliations idea was started. Is there some reference to it in a sourcebook somewhere?
Thanks!
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 06:39:17
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| Player's Handbook II is where the rules for affiliations were first mentioned. Eric Boyd has done some affiliations for the Realms in his Realms conversions for the Savage Tide adventures in Dungeon Magazine, with affiliations for the Knights of the Flying Hunt, the Rundeen, and House Se'Sehan. |
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 15:15:55
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realms conversion for Savage tide? ... interesting ... where to find?
anyways ... i seem to remember Affiliations from slightly before PHII ... or is it just me thats mixing up? |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 15:45:27
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Originally posted by Sian
realms conversion for Savage tide? ... interesting ... where to find?
anyways ... i seem to remember Affiliations from slightly before PHII ... or is it just me thats mixing up?
your probably thinking of the favored in guild feat that appeared in DMGII |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 15:48:27
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quote:
Originally posted by Sian
realms conversion for Savage tide? ... interesting ... where to find?
You can find them on the Paizo site. |
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 07 Apr 2007 : 19:29:22
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completly missed me ...
now i got something to use that adventurepath for *grins* ... just have to get some more conversion notes and read them though a few dozens of times (both the path and the notes) ... and finding #138 and 139 ... and a group to run it in *grins*
well ... kinda offtracking ... back to topic |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 23 Apr 2008 : 20:20:40
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I don't recall seeing anything about that rite in print... With it being personally designed by the prospective priest, I'd imagine that each rite is fairly unique, though certain elements (such as flying) would often occur in such rites.
Spelljamming comes from Spelljammer, a 2E campaign setting. Without going into too many details, it took D&D into space. It also allowed characters from different campaign settings to travel between the settings, so a Krynnish (Dragonlance) elf could go to Oerth (Greyhawk), pick up a couple of dwarves, and then all of them could come to the Realms.
It remains my D&D first love.  |
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Fillow
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 23 Apr 2008 : 21:28:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Fillow
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It remains my D&D first love.
I'm proud to make you feeling younger Wooly !
How could you define "jamming" ? I'd like to translate it into French. The French editor's translators kept he English word. It does not look beautiful to see a foreighn word in a sentence.
Do you see what I mean ? Not an attack to the English language !
Hmmm... I don't know how easily it would translate. "Jam", in English, usually means to forcibly put something somewhere, or it can mean a difficult place/situation to get out of. However, the term "windjammer" refers to sailing ships, and spelljammers are ships that sail in space (windjammers move by wind, spelljammers move by spell). So I'd go with a word that means "sailing". |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 24 Apr 2008 : 01:04:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Fillow
And another question :
F&A says also :
"Spelljamming is looked upon favorably by the faith, since it spreadds the world of Akadi to distant places."
What is spelljamming ? Airship travelling ?
What do the both words (spell-jamming) mean ?.... OK about "spell" ! But "Jamming" ?
Thanks a lot for reading.
Fillow, you'll likely find this page to be of some interest.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 24 Apr 2008 : 01:11:57
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quote:
Originally posted by Fillow
F&A says :
" Upon undergoing a personally designed rite of empowerment supervised by at least two senior clergy (and usually involving flying), they become full priests."
Has this rite been canonly explained by the past ? Maybe in a novel ?
I don't recall any specific explanation for the rite. Divine rites and rituals aren't something that have received a great deal of attention in the Realmslore. Aside from basic references in the three main deity books [Faiths & Avatars, Demihuman Deities, and Power & Pantheons], and a few other sources, most of what we now know about particular religious rites and rituals of the various faiths come directly from Ed, here at Candlekeep.
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An Experiment in Affiliations: Church of Akadi
