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Snow
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  05:36:33  Show Profile Send Snow a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi Folks,

I wasn't sure which forum to post this in - so I figured General FR Chat would be a good catch-all.

I play both FR D&D (I have all the FRCS sourcebooks) and I read the occasional FR novel.

But for the life of me, I'm having trouble figuring out what year and month we are "currently" in at any given time.

To my knowledge, it is DR 1374 (Year of the Lightning Storms) which matches up to the Forsaken House trilogy. Gamewise, I can't tell which year we are in from my Powers of Faerun, Moonsea, & Waterdeep sourcebooks.

Can someone help me get up-to-date on the current timeline?

Thanks!

Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  05:54:57  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am not entirely sure, but I believe the newest novels brought us up to 1375. I too am easily confused with the timeline.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood

Edited by - Mazrim_Taim on 27 Feb 2007 05:55:16
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Kuje
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  06:14:22  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's 1375. The first source to bring it up was the Dragon article on the Hordelands.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Snow
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  06:29:34  Show Profile Send Snow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay. It's 1375 ... Year of the Risen Elfkin! I can't wait to see what the novels and the game sourcebooks come about with this year.

Thank you Mazrim and Kuje.
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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  11:09:40  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim

I am not entirely sure, but I believe the newest novels brought us up to 1375. I too am easily confused with the timeline.

That is correct. Sacrifice of the Widow now carries FR fiction into the current year.

However, the current year, being 1375 DR, was officially set in "The Horde" article of DRAGON #349 as Kuje noted above.

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  15:36:25  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe the new Grand History of The Realms will fill us in on all the things that surely happen between these years. It does seem they jump from year to year upon a whim.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood

Edited by - Mazrim_Taim on 27 Feb 2007 15:36:54
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nbnmare
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  17:31:44  Show Profile  Visit nbnmare's Homepage Send nbnmare a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That said, there are still a few forthcoming novels that will be set in 1374. For example, the final chapter of Shadowbred is set on 11 Uktar 1374, and juding by what happens at the end, book 2 of the Twilight War trilogy will kick off straight from the end of the previous one.
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ericlboyd
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  17:46:22  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Game-products-wise, Shadowdale is set in Hammer 1375. Therefore Cormyr is set before that and Anauroch set after it.

You can easily shift the dates for your campaign though. We picked a specific date for Shadowdale due to the number of other events going on in the area.

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  17:53:27  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

Game-products-wise, Shadowdale is set in Hammer 1375. Therefore Cormyr is set before that and Anauroch set after it.

You can easily shift the dates for your campaign though. We picked a specific date for Shadowdale due to the number of other events going on in the area.

--Eric



Hey Eric, how do they decide when it's time to advance the time line?

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  22:33:56  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sacrifice of the Widow actually takes place in the autumn of 1375. Which, if you go by the "books move the timeline theory", means we are almost heading into the year 1376!

I use novels and sourcebooks and such as guidelines at best, personally. Otherwise, it's possible to argue that the current year is 1380 (thanks to the Final Gate epilogue) or even 1390 (that Elaith Craulnober story in one of the Realms anthologies. And really, this is a fictional world--does it matter that much what the exact month in the exact year it is? It matters more to the people making Realms products than it does to me. I think what matters most is the story being told.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 27 Feb 2007 22:39:59
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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 27 Feb 2007 :  22:48:45  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Sacrifice of the Widow actually takes place in the autumn of 1375. Which, if you go by the "books move the timeline theory", means we are almost heading into the year 1376!

I use novels and sourcebooks and such as guidelines at best, personally. Otherwise, it's possible to argue that the current year is 1380 (thanks to the Final Gate prologue) or even 1390 (that Elaith Craulnober story in one of the Realms anthologies. And really, this is a fictional world--does it matter that much what the exact month in the exact year is? It matters more to the people making Realms products than it does to me. I think what matters most is the story being told.



I am just wondering if there is a structured way as to how they advance the time line. I have my own in my current game, but was just curious as to how they decide when it's fine go to the next year.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Snow
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  04:25:44  Show Profile Send Snow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A wonderful addition to the WotC Forgotten Realms website ... http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fr/welcome

... would be to have the DR year posted for both the most current FR game sourcebook *AND* the most current FR novel.

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Markustay
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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  05:29:36  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like that idea snow. They could even include one of those 'countdown clocks' until the next FR product is released.

Which may or may not change the current date/year.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

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