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dnewhous
Acolyte
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 Posted - 28 Apr 2003 : 06:38:25
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Does Candlekeep exist in canon Forgotten Realms material or was it an invention of Baldur's Gate? (I hope this question isn't too offensively stupid.)
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Apr 2003 : 07:38:45
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| It's from before the computer game. It's in the earliest information on the Forgotten Realms. Now, as it is portrayed in the game, I can't say -- I've never played it. But it does exist as a storehouse of informaion. In the novels, if you want examples, it's visited many times. Elfshadow, Realms of the Arcane, and The Lost Library of Cormanthyr, just to name the ones popping out of my head. It's also shown in The Forgotten Realms Atlas. I'm sure it's in any source material that covers the Sword Coast. |
Hell hath no fury like all of Candlekeep rising in defense of one of its own.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 28 Apr 2003 : 10:05:21
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Greetings,
dnewhous said -
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Does Candlekeep exist in canon Forgotten Realms material or was it an invention of Baldur's Gate? (I hope this question isn't too offensively stupid.)
Yes, Candlekeep is part of the Forgotten Realms. It is the center for learning in all the Realms. It perserves (along with all Alaundo's prophecies) all the records and learning of the Realms that can be assembled. For more information on this citadel of learning please consult the 2e FR sourcebook Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast.
Well that's it for now,
Good learning...
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 28 Apr 2003 : 23:52:24
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth:
It is the center for learning in all the Realms.
I don't know about that, the Vault of the Sages in Silverymoon is a pretty good library in it's own right, as is the Soaring Spirit. I think the main thing Candlekeep has going for is it is a center of learning run by highly devout worshipers of the God of Knowledge, the Binder, Lord Oghma. It is also, interestingly enough, in possession of one of the only shrines to the All-Seeing One, Savras, the God of Divination and Foresight. Alaundo was Savras' only notable worshiper, just so you know. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 Apr 2003 : 06:03:18
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Greetings,
Edain Shadowstar said -
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I don't know about that, the Vault of the Sages in Silverymoon is a pretty good library in it's own right, as is the Soaring Spirit. I think the main thing Candlekeep has going for is it is a center of learning run by highly devout worshipers of the God of Knowledge, the Binder, Lord Oghma. It is also, interestingly enough, in possession of one of the only shrines to the All-Seeing One, Savras, the God of Divination and Foresight. Alaundo was Savras' only notable worshiper, just so you know.
I was aware of this, yes.
However what I meant by the statement -
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It is the center for learning in all the Realms.
was that in most cases the average Realms disciple and player, normally equates Candlekeep with the House of all knowledge in the Realms. A number of players, when asked about the Realms premier place of learning and knowledge inveriably answer - Candlekeep.
Good learning...
- The Sage of Perth: For all your Realms lore needs
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 29 Apr 2003 : 22:36:39
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Originally posted by Sage of Perth
Greetings,
Edain Shadowstar said -
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I don't know about that, the Vault of the Sages in Silverymoon is a pretty good library in it's own right, as is the Soaring Spirit. I think the main thing Candlekeep has going for is it is a center of learning run by highly devout worshipers of the God of Knowledge, the Binder, Lord Oghma. It is also, interestingly enough, in possession of one of the only shrines to the All-Seeing One, Savras, the God of Divination and Foresight. Alaundo was Savras' only notable worshiper, just so you know.
I was aware of this, yes.
However what I meant by the statement -
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It is the center for learning in all the Realms.
was that in most cases the average Realms disciple and player, normally equates Candlekeep with the House of all knowledge in the Realms. A number of players, when asked about the Realms premier place of learning and knowledge inveriably answer - Candlekeep.
Good learning...
- The Sage of Perth: For all your Realms lore needs
AWESOME!!! A sage duel!!! Then I am throwing in the Edificant Library as the center of learning in the realms.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Apr 2003 : 04:20:21
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Greetings,
mournblade94 said -
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AWESOME!!! A sage duel!!! Then I am throwing in the Edificant Library as the center of learning in the realms.
Actually sage duals are quite interesting, as the amount of knowledge that gets spread around can make quite the learning experience for those around the duelists.
And as for the Edificant Library, I had actually forgotten all about that one.
Oh well, I guess it's just the nature of a Sage to be absent-minded.
Good learning...
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2003 : 06:16:38
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So, I am guessing that for the sake of this post we are defining the Spirit Soaring and the Edificant Library as separate entities? Because the Spirit Soaring was mentioned in my post.
Now, if we are talking about learning you have to throw New Olamn into the mix. As one of the few places founded specifically as an institue of learning in all the Realms, it is definately a contender. That and it's in Waterdeep  . |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 02 May 2003 : 15:10:52
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There's also the Library of Curna. Check out "Faiths & Avatars", p.133.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 02 May 2003 : 15:19:58
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Greetings,
Edain Shadowstar said -
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So, I am guessing that for the sake of this post we are defining the Spirit Soaring and the Edificant Library as separate entities? Because the Spirit Soaring was mentioned in my post.
Now, if we are talking about learning you have to throw New Olamn into the mix. As one of the few places founded specifically as an institue of learning in all the Realms, it is definately a contender. That and it's in Waterdeep.
Whoops. Sorry about the split between the Edificant and the Spirit Soaring.
Again the absent-mindness strikes again.
Anyway both Edain's mention of New Olamn and George's reference of the Library of Curna in his last post well define the scope of places of learning for the Realms.
It's surprising that nobody mentioned the Library of Curna earlier since it has the strongest relationship with knowledge being Oghma's (Curna's) temple and all.
Good learning...
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Edain Shadowstar
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2003 : 01:22:41
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 May 2003 : 09:50:59
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Greetings,
I feel deep sorrow for your misfortune concerning your copy of Faiths & Avatars Edain. This is most distressing.
If you ever have need for any information or details that may have been irreparably damaged by the attack, welcome the knowledge that the Sage of Perth stands ready to assist you.
Once again, I am sorry.
Good learning...
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Alexis Merlin
Learned Scribe
USA
115 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2003 : 10:45:16
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As a spin-off from this topic I was wondering how similar the "canon" candlekeep is to that portrayed in Baldurs Gate, in terms of architecture, characters etc.? I have only 'seen' it in the game, so have no ideas in this respect.
(refrains from making some bad joke about the Candlekeep Cannon....getting a bit too mixed up in my Sea Battle story atm... ) |
It is knowledge that influences and equalizes the social condition of man; that gives to all, however different their political position, passions which are in common, and enjoyments which are universal.
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
4740 Posts |
Posted - 03 May 2003 : 14:00:23
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A cannon at Candlekeep? You must be mad. Imagine the problems with storing such a supply of smokepowder here -- and especially the noise when it would be fired! No no no -- not at all good for the quiet contemplation people seek here.
And besides, with all the wizards and sorcerers and clerics and bards here, surely we have enough potential 'boom' to go around . . . .
(Especially if Salius Kai drops one of those alchemical potions of his . . . .) |
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KlarthAilerion
Acolyte
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Posted - 24 May 2003 : 02:22:01
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| speaking of bards and centers of learning, are we including only "currently existing" places of knowledge and learning? Do not forget the six formerly-great barding colleges mentioned in Elfsong (and possibly other Songs and Swords/Harpers novels.. I'm remiss in my reading) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 24 May 2003 : 07:25:25
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KlarthAilerion said -
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speaking of bards and centers of learning, are we including only "currently existing" places of knowledge and learning? Do not forget the six formerly-great barding colleges mentioned in Elfsong (and possibly other Songs and Swords/Harpers novels.. I'm remiss in my reading)
There are indeed a number of colleges and centers of learning that have existed in the Realms in times past, not least of which are those mentioned in Elfsong. The was also a time when magical colleges of learning existed far and wide throughout the new lands in the North, and it is safe to assume that the ancient realm of Netheril had several centers for learning that disappeared when the empire fell. And of course we must never forget the Library of Cormanthyr, which was the subject of a novel as well - The Lost Library of Cormanthyr part of the "Lost Empires" series.
There is also a few lost tombs of knowledge mentioned in brief in both the FRCS and the 2e Grand Tour of the Realms.
Good learning...
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Faraer
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GamerDJ
Acolyte
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Posted - 09 Oct 2004 : 22:20:18
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very nice, this is quite the show .
But I have one to add to the list.
Heralds Holdfast!
that nice place of books right next to the Moonwood and close the Silverymoon.
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Nephilim
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Oct 2004 : 12:15:44
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and another...
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Rising even higher than Lord Ulath's Tower of the Rising Moon, this temple to Oghma in Highmoon contains one of the finest libraries of Faerun. The temple library eschews all books upon magic in favor of subjects unconnected to the Art. Consequently the temple's collection has grown without suffering unduly from the attentions of overly inquisitive wizards.
Outsiders may examine bokks for 15GP per volume - a stiff price, but a better bargain than it might appear because the library has an excellent index - the unique vision of its High Preist, Danali the Indexer (LG male human Clr9 of Ogama). As a result, a researcher can usualy identify right awmy the book or books he needs, without having to pay to look at volumes that don't have the information he wants. Clerics and Initiates of Oghma pay only 1GP per Volume, a price that applies only to themselves and not to inquisitive friends.
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 10 Oct 2004 : 18:05:21
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| Hmm... can anyone tell me when Candlekeep was built and the history of it? (Like who built it or why it was built) |
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Sentinel
Acolyte
France
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Posted - 12 Oct 2004 : 10:42:23
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| I would second that: when and why it was built? I saw a story of it in a book in an alternative NWN module and it was quite preposterous, concerning the Times of trouble. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 12 Oct 2004 : 15:39:39
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You both may find the scroll, An Introduction to Candlekeep, particularly interesting. It's penned by the Grand Master Sage himself... Ed of the Greenwood. It's located on the main site of Candlekeep, in Alaundo's Library
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cpthero2
Great Reader
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Posted - 01 Oct 2018 : 17:40:50
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Acolyte dnewhous,
It is, and here is a compilation of material on it:
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Candlekeep
Best regards,
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Originally posted by dnewhous
Does Candlekeep exist in canon Forgotten Realms material or was it an invention of Baldur's Gate? (I hope this question isn't too offensively stupid.)
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