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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
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 Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 13:47:23
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I got curious hand had to hear the song.....
Ah Yes, Great song 
Beautiful even on the page, isn't it? Love that song.
Just spreading the gospel, that's me... |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 15:59:48
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I got curious hand had to hear the song.....
Ah Yes, Great song
Beautiful even on the page, isn't it? Love that song.
Just spreading the gospel, that's me...
Yes it’s a very beautiful song 
When I hear it, I can’t stop thinking that something beautiful is dieing, and that itself has a tune.
Ahh.. That’s just me… I agree with you it is a really beautiful song. 
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Edited by - Victor_ograygor on 13 Mar 2007 16:00:53 |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 21:58:34
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I got curious hand had to hear the song.....
Ah Yes, Great song
Beautiful even on the page, isn't it? Love that song.
Just spreading the gospel, that's me...
Yes it’s a very beautiful song
When I hear it, I can’t stop thinking that something beautiful is dieing, and that itself has a tune.
Ahh.. That’s just me… I agree with you it is a really beautiful song.
One book I read about Dylan makes the case that it's inspired by, wait for it, Tolkien. It's actually a fairly credible point. One of Legolas's songs has exactly the same meter, and the same pantheistic (yet at the same time, as you rightly note, elegiac) attitude towards nature. |
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 22:10:27
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| Speaking of Dylan, I always thought All Along the Watchtower was a song with a whole epic fantasy trilogy implicit inisde it. |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 22:30:42
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I got curious hand had to hear the song.....
Ah Yes, Great song
Beautiful even on the page, isn't it? Love that song.
Just spreading the gospel, that's me...
Yes it’s a very beautiful song
When I hear it, I can’t stop thinking that something beautiful is dieing, and that itself has a tune.
Ahh.. That’s just me… I agree with you it is a really beautiful song.
One book I read about Dylan makes the case that it's inspired by, wait for it, Tolkien. It's actually a fairly credible point. One of Legolas's songs has exactly the same meter, and the same pantheistic (yet at the same time, as you rightly note, elegiac) attitude towards nature.
I have the feeling that there are more to this song that meets the eye…hmm… ear.
I tried to replace some of the words, and got a different meaning.
If the heart has a tune, then two hearts can have a rhythm.
Let me aske you a simple question, if you close your eyes not ear´s, and hear the song what do you think off?
It isn’t a love song, but I would rather call it a song made of the hearts (strength of strings) rythem.
Hmm. I can’t remember what song that was? (One of Legolas's songs?)
This is a little information I got about the song.
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The sessions for The Times They Are a-Changin' produced a large surplus of songs, many of which were eventually issued on later compilations. According to Clinton Heylin, "perhaps the two best songs, "Percy's Song" and "Lay Down Your Weary Tune", would not make the final album, failing to fit within the narrow bounds Dylan had decided to impose on himself."
"'Lay Down Your Weary Tune'... along with 'Eternal Circle'... marked a new phase in Dylan's songwriting", writes Heylin. "It is the all-important link between the clipped symbolism of 'A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall' and the more self-conscious efforts to come the following year. A celebration of song itself, 'Lay Down Your Weary Tune' was also an admission that there were certain songs 'no voice can hope to hum'."
Riley describes "Lay Down Your Weary Tune" as "a hymn to music's instrumental spectrum... it's about the heightened awareness of nature and reality available to performer and listener in the course of a highly charged musical experience". The song is also rich in natural imagery, often in surreal, musical terms ("The cryin' rain like a trumpet sang/And asked for no applause"). Stephen Goldberg writes that the song depicts nature "not as a manifestation of God but as containing God within its every aspect". The Byrds released their own celebrated version of "Lay Down Your Weary Tune" in 1965 on their critically acclaimed second album, Turn! Turn! Turn!.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times_They_Are_A-Changin'
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1075 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 22:40:17
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Originally posted by Richard Lee Byers
Speaking of Dylan, I always thought All Along the Watchtower was a song with a whole epic fantasy trilogy implicit inisde it.
Yes you are right… and this is one of the best…
”There must be some kind of way out of here,”
Said the joker to the thief.
”There's too much confusion,
I can't get no relief.
Businessmen, they drink my wine,
Plowmen dig my earth.
None of them along the line
Know what any of it is worth.”
”No reason to get excited,”
The thief he kindly spoke.
“There are many here among us
Who feel that life is but a joke.
But you and I, we've been through that,
And this is not our fate.
So let us not talk falsely now,
The hour is getting late.”
All along the watchtower,
Princes kept the view,
While all the women came and went —
Barefoot servants too.
Outside in the cold distance,
A wildcat did growl.
Two riders were approaching, and
The wind began to howl
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Edited by - Victor_ograygor on 13 Mar 2007 22:41:48 |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 13 Mar 2007 : 23:03:20
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Like any good academic, I must provide my sources:
Gray, Michael. Song and Dance Man III: The Art of Bob Dylan. London: Continuum. 2000. pg 202-5.
Gray connects "Lay Down Your Weary Tune" with Lord of the Rings (in addition to more obvious literary sources like Wordsworth and Emerson) but especially with the "Song of Nimrodel": http://tolkien.cro.net/talesong/nimrodel.html. You'll find that Tolkien's poem can indeed but sung to the tune of Dylan's song.
Richard, you're completely right about "All Along the Watchtower." The same, I think, can be said of "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall" and some of his other apocalypse-tinged songs with that heightened Biblical-cum-vernacular language. |
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Mark S.
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 22 Mar 2007 : 03:21:17
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Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
Outside in the cold distance,
A wildcat did growl.
Two riders were approaching, and
The wind began to howl
Those are some of the best lines written by an American poet in the last hundred years. Just perfect. Flawless. It is the PERFECT balance of what is said and what is not said, what it tells and what it leaves up to the imagination.
Just perfect.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 31 Mar 2007 : 22:35:25
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Wow... I have heard that song (All Along the Watchtower) so many times, and never *really* paid that much attention to the lyrics. Now as I read them... the man's a genius. I agree with Mark - this is flawless poetry!
This topic reminds me of the time when I read Cormyr: A Novel while listening to El Greco by Vangelis. Both the book and the album are filled with moments and echoes from a dark and ominous past. I highly recommend this album for anyone reading a novel with a moody and tragic atmosphere. |
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Erevis Cale
Acolyte
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Posted - 30 Jul 2007 : 15:51:06
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I've created a soundtrack for the Erevis Cale story up to and including Shadowbred. I will add two or three more tracks once the latest trilogy is complete.
1. Holyman - Blind Melon
2. Hunger Strike - Temple of the Dog
3. Black - Pearl Jam
4. Losing My Religion - R.E.M.
5. Bonedriven - Bush
6. Creep - Stone Temple Pilots
7. Live Forever - Oasis
8. Goodnight, Good Guy - Collective Soul
9. Blow Up The Outside World - Soundgarden
10. The Killer Inside - Better Than Ezra
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 30 Jul 2007 : 21:58:21
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Erevis Cale nice choices but you just forgot one : Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise
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Coolio - Gangsta's Paradise
As I walk through the valley of the shadow of death
I take a look at my life and realize there's not much left
coz I've been blastin and laughin so long, that
even my mama thinks that my mind is gone
but I ain't never crossed a man that didn't deserve it
me be treated like a punk you know that's unheard of
you better watch how you're talking, and where you're walking
or you and your homies might be lined in chalk
I really hate to trip but i gotta, loc
As I Grow I see myself in the pistol smoke, fool
I'm the kinda G the little homies wanna be like
on my knees in the night, saying prayers in the streetlight
The rest is here :
http://www.nomorelyrics.net/song/62916.html
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
1075 Posts |
Posted - 30 Jul 2007 : 22:09:42
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It seems that those song are hunting me, they are really deep.. They are just filled with hidden messages; I am still enjoying hearing his song.
Thanks fore sharing him
Vic.
Bob Dylan: A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall
Oh, where have you been, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, where have you been, my darling young one?
I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains,
I've walked and I've crawled on six crooked highways,
I've stepped in the middle of seven sad forests,
I've been out in front of a dozen dead oceans,
I've been ten thousand miles in the mouth of a graveyard,
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.
Oh, what did you see, my blue-eyed son?
Oh, what did you see, my darling young one?
I saw a newborn baby with wild wolves all around it
I saw a highway of diamonds with nobody on it,
I saw a black branch with blood that kept drippin',
I saw a room full of men with their hammers a-bleedin',
I saw a white ladder all covered with water,
I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken,
I saw guns and sharp swords in the hands of young children,
And it's a hard, and it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard,
And it's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.
The rest is here :
http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/hardrain.html |
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Edited by - Victor_ograygor on 30 Jul 2007 22:10:22 |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
228 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2007 : 03:28:02
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| You should check out "Ain't Talkin'," the closing track of Dylan's last album, Modern Times. If anything sounds like a grim fantasy novel, that's it; there are even images like "carrying a dead man's shield." |
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Erevis Cale
Acolyte
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Posted - 01 Aug 2007 : 15:25:59
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LOL @ Gangstas Paradise for Erevis Cale
Here are the lyrics for Holyman by Blind Melon
I was born on the banks off a hot muddy river
The child of one stupid steamy night
Born to roam beneath the sun
What do you think of me, I'm better left alone
I met a Holyman that said that he knew the way
And he'd like to show me so my life won't go astray
Take my hand child now little boy don't you be afraid
I'll take your soul and walk on water
Holyman, ya don't understand
The cuts on me they run much deeper
Holyman, you righteous man
I've been shown the way a thousand times
Not one a keeper
Older man he said I'll tell you boy
You've planted rotten seeds
And in a land of happiness
They'll grow us evil trees
Guided minds, and eyes that will never see
Holyman I'll tell you
Just what it is that I believe
Holyman I tell you man you gotta
Believe in what you see
Cause its you that corrupt us man and
Deep throat philosophy
I don't need your spells or the little
Games you try to pull on me
Come to think of it I don't need your religion
Gotta get away
I wish you would understand
Everybody prays
Let me find my own way
This whole song says Erevis Cale |
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koz
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 06 Nov 2007 : 10:41:30
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I am finishing up Depths of Madness and I had a few ideas for themes for Twilight and for Negarath in general.
First I was thinking maybe My Friend of Misery by Metallica for Twilight. I don't really think Metallica is the right sound for her but in my opinion the lyrics fit.
For the dungeon of Negarath I was thinking of Welcome Home (Sanitarium), also by Metallica. I was reading through the lyrics and I think they fit extremely well.
Welcome to where time stands still
no one leaves and no one will
Moon is full, never seems to change
just labeled mentally deranged
Dream the same thing every night
I see our freedom in my sight
No locked doors, No windows barred
No things to make my brain seem scarred
Sleep my friend and you will see
that dream is my reality
They keep me locked up in this cage
can't they see it's why my brain says Rage
Sanitarium, leave me be
Sanitarium, just leave me alone
Build my fear of what's out there
and cannot breathe the open air
Whisper things into my brain
assuring me that I'm insane
They think our heads are in their hands
but violent use brings violent plans
Keep him tied, it makes him well
he's getting better, can't you tell?
No more can they keep us in
Listen, damn it, we will win
They see it right, they see it well
but they think this saves us from our hell
Sanitarium, leave me be
Sanitarium, just leave me alone
Sanitarium, just leave me alone
Fear of living on
natives getting restless now
Mutiny in the air
got some death to do
Mirror stares back hard
Kill, it's such a friendly word
seems the only way
for reaching out again.
Maybe not so much a theme as just heard playing in the background after key scenes. |
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Austran
Acolyte
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Posted - 11 Nov 2007 : 16:58:20
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Hmm... Normally I read FR novels listening the soundtracks of the followings videogames:
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Stronghold II
World of Warcraft
I think that they match very well with the Drizzt's books... |
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monknwildcat
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 23:11:39
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Long-time lurker, first timer poster.
Music has inspired my best PCs, usually ethereal stuff like Loreena McKennitt or slightly-tortured stuff like Sting (e.g. Desert Rose) or angsty stuff like Evanescence's Fallen cd and the early Linkin Park or Godsmack.
But, yeah, Dillon's All Along the Watchtower rocks. |
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