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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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 Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 06:36:22
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I'm looking to field some interesting, and fairly unique constructs of my own design -- inspired somewhat by my own love of constructs and clockwork creatures -- into something that will form part of a "secret project" I'm currently tinkering with.
In preparation, I've put aside most of the 3e D&D/FR sources that deal with any type of constructs, as well as most relevant 2e sources -- most notably being Van Richten's Guide to the Created and the few sections in the two Ruins of Undermountain boxed sets.
What I'm looking for though... are 3rd party books that some of my fellow scribes may have purchased in the past and thought were fairly useful. Or maybe you've heard about particularly informative 3rd party tomes on the subject. I've got a small listing of my own that I want to check up on, however I thought I'd see what the rest of you can come up with.
Thoughts?
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Edited by - The Sage on 03 Jan 2007 06:38:46
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Kuje
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 06:45:24
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The Dragonstar material from Fantasy Flight Games has some constructs in them, but that setting is more sci-fi D&D. Um Sorcery & Steam from the same company should have some but I didn't grab my copy to check, however that's a steampunk D&D type of book.
Mongoose's MGP1004, Encyc Arcane – Constructs - It Is Alive, is also useful.
The problem with these sourcebooks is a lot of it is 3e and out of print already. :( |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 06:49:45
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Aye.
The Dragonstar material is mostly on the soulmechs. I've got those. I think I've already got a copy of Constructs: It Is Alive... I'll have to check.
Sorcery & Steam I'd forgotten about. That's on the list now.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 07:03:00
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Originally posted by The Sage
Aye.
The Dragonstar material is mostly on the soulmechs. I've got those. I think I've already got a copy of Constructs: It Is Alive... I'll have to check.
Sorcery & Steam I'd forgotten about. That's on the list now.
Yeah, the soulmechs. That's what I was thinking of.
Other then those books, that all I got for references. |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 17:56:48
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There is the Iron Kingdoms Monsternomicon, which was actually updated for 3.5. I don't recall everything I saw in it perfectly, but I know I spent a lot of time reading over the Iron Lich entry in the FLGS . . . technically of course its undead, but its a lich that makes an iron, steam powered body, and powers its unlife with souls that it keeps in an iron cage in its body.
Still trying to find a way to work that idea into a Realms campaign, and if I do, I'll likely pick the book up myself. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 03 Jan 2007 : 23:17:29
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
There is the Iron Kingdoms Monsternomicon, which was actually updated for 3.5. I don't recall everything I saw in it perfectly, but I know I spent a lot of time reading over the Iron Lich entry in the FLGS . . . technically of course its undead, but its a lich that makes an iron, steam powered body, and powers its unlife with souls that it keeps in an iron cage in its body.
Still trying to find a way to work that idea into a Realms campaign, and if I do, I'll likely pick the book up myself.
I think I've got the Monsternomicon as well, though the 3e version and not the 3.5 updated book, which is said to include a few new entries.
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maransreth
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Jan 2007 : 05:24:21
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| Hey Sage, I know you aren't averse to checking out Eberron sources, so you likely already found this one, but have you looked at the Clockwork Wonders articles on the Eberron side of WOTC's site? |
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The Sage
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George Krashos
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Australia
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Posted - 18 Jan 2007 : 11:39:16
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Check out the write-up of Alias in FR7 Hall of Heroes.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 18 Jan 2007 : 11:56:33
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Check out the write-up of Alias in FR7 Hall of Heroes.
-- George Krashos
I dont know do you reckon Alias actually counts as a construct in the 3ed definition of the word?
Alias is a living being she has a Constitution
Alias doesnt have low or Dark vision
Alias can be healed by cure spells (Im pretty sure dragonbait healed her with Lay on hands in one of the novels
Alias does need to eat, sleep and breathe
Shes flesh and blood she doesnt have gears and shes not made out of your typical construct materials like Iron, stone etc
Id argue that shes no more construct then Manshoons clones |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 18 Jan 2007 : 12:22:47
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Originally posted by Dargoth
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
Check out the write-up of Alias in FR7 Hall of Heroes.
-- George Krashos
I dont know do you reckon Alias actually counts as a construct in the 3ed definition of the word?
Alias is a living being she has a Constitution
Alias doesnt have low or Dark vision
Alias can be healed by cure spells (Im pretty sure dragonbait healed her with Lay on hands in one of the novels
Alias does need to eat, sleep and breathe
Shes flesh and blood she doesnt have gears and shes not made out of your typical construct materials like Iron, stone etc
Id argue that shes no more construct then Manshoons clones
Not only that, but we know that at least one of Alias's "sisters" -- Cat -- has had children. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 Jan 2007 : 13:19:11
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Check out the write-up of Alias in FR7 Hall of Heroes.
-- George Krashos
I dont know do you reckon Alias actually counts as a construct in the 3ed definition of the word?
Alias is a living being she has a Constitution
Alias doesnt have low or Dark vision
Alias can be healed by cure spells (Im pretty sure dragonbait healed her with Lay on hands in one of the novels
Alias does need to eat, sleep and breathe
Shes flesh and blood she doesnt have gears and shes not made out of your typical construct materials like Iron, stone etc
Id argue that shes no more construct then Manshoons clones
George may have been referring to the "Magical Life" treatise in the Alias write-up. Since it provides notes on magical creations, constructs, and golems for example, it could be of some potential use for this project.
Besides, I'm assuming George is looking at Alias's write-up in Hall of Heroes as an example of a magical creation -- similar to, though not exactly like, the creation of magical constructs and/or magical weapons.
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Jan 2007 : 01:08:04
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I'm so tempted right now to spoil your secret Sage.
I am certain Imaskari fans would have a blast to see what you've got planned!
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The Sage
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Dargoth
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Posted - 21 Jan 2007 : 03:48:08
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I'm presently holding the Staff of the Irritated Moderator +5, so I'd suggest you reconsider that position.
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3rd party resources -- Constructs
