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Penknight
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 03:24:30
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded OneAs to WHEN he has the time; ah, that's the kicker. He's off to Pentacon soon, and horribly busy with writing work between now and the end of January. He's not even sure if he'll be able to keep up with his hitherto pretty-regular schedule of Realmslore replies here at the Keep! Sigh. On the other hand, at least two of the reasons for his busy-ness are things that would make all Realms fans happy, if he or I were able to identify them. love, THO
Please let Mr. Greenwood know that we all wish him the best with his writing endeavours, and that we really appreciate all the time that he gives us. As well as yourself, gentle Lady.
Respectfully, Penknight |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 14:42:47
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Heh-heh. Your direct questions are already answered (hope you got the e-reply). Ed's still our Ed, and on the job. love, THO |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 15:21:16
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Thanks, just checked my mail.
Very much appreciated!
I'll share my answers with Kuje if ya don't mind.
But bravo Ed and best of luck with your latest work.
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 18:23:03
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quote: Originally posted by Kentinal
quote: Originally posted by Uzzy
Hello again Ed and THO.
I'm hoping this question doesn't hit an NDA, though one question that was in a similar area got shot down earlier in the year. But I'll ask anyway. See if we can learn anything. It's one that might be a little controversial too.
Firstly, do people in the Realms consider unborn children to have souls? Are there differences depending on region and faiths?
Secondly, if unborn children die somehow, do they get into the afterlife?
Not sure if NDA applies, however you clearly tread close, if not beyound, Code of Conduct for Candlekeep for bringing religious views of the RW.
One simple answer is under 3.X all charaters are adults, there are no children. If this stands though all the splat books. There are no children except some NPCs.
I disagree. Third edition introduced spells for sterility, which I considered in bad taste, but there they are, and certainly Qilué Veladorn's pre-natal existence is very relevant to the Forgotten Realms. Let's see Ed's answer (but let's also please keep our real world viewpoints on the subject to ourselves!).
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
1425 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 18:38:26
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Realmswise, fertility and sterility are largely of interest because we discuss everything from Haruula pottery in these threads to whose having sex with whom amongst the NPCs. Certainly, people are going to deal with the most relevant aspects of people's lives in the ability to bear children. Is it disgusting to sterilize someone in Faerun against their will? Certainly. The same as in our world.
But yes, I tend to think it's better not to try and bother Ed with such a question less because of whatever the answer is (I doubt there's any importance whether Kelemvor keeps a Guff of Infant souls or recycles them or not) but more what people would take his answer to be regarding real world issues.
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
1537 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 18:38:26
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hello again, all. Warrax, Ed will indeed explore the various Faerunian philosophers and their written works here, when he has the time. That's precisely what he meant by "get to this," because the original questions he's responding to asked about books and the thinkers who penned them.
(respectful snipping)
love, THO
Well met and thanks for (most of) the answer to my question about the Skulls. I've been on the bandwagon for information about "classical" literature (which I don't think I explicitly described to include philosophical works) for more than a year, but Ed's temporary reply sets off a light bulb <insert light bulb icon which isn't supported here>: Zakhara is described as "The Land of Fate," so would Ed please touch on their famous philosophers, too? Since it's become a smaller world since 1360, can we pretty please hear about Maztican and "oriental" philosophers, too? I've been reading the "Empires" modules ("Storm Riders" to "Blood Charge"), and while the stealth war between the Yellow and Red monasteries is described and some of the background of it is given, there is no "flavor text" to dish out to players to get them thinking about what's going on there beyond their own petty desires to not become undead (and maybe thwart a villain or two). Some background material would really enhance those adventures for my players, I'm sure; you know: here a sutra, there a sutra, everywhere a Kama Sutra....
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
1425 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 18:39:43
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Does Ed answer Kara-Tur, Maztica, Zhakara, or Horde questions? Last I heard it was no, because they were really seperate lines within his setting.
He might be able to give Calisham philosophy answers though, which is effectively the same. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 20 Oct 2007 : 22:14:33
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Charles, of course you can share Ed's replies (second batch just sent) with Kuje. As for Maztica, Zakhara, Horde, and Kara-Tur: I'd give a rest on those. As far as I know, we've never visited them in the home Realms campaign, so Ed probably has little or no detailed lore on them. love, THO |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 02:24:43
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. . . And now, having sent the last few posts off to Ed, he sent me this:
Thanks, Softhips. Charles hath made me chuckle again. I'm currently trying to figure out just where I can sneak a brief scene into my future Realms fiction wherein two characters make love amid shards of Halruaan pottery. Or, I suppose, INSIDE some family-economy-sized Halruaan pottery. Hmm . . .
So saith Ed. Ahem. And "Softhips" is a pet name for me, of course; I CAN'T imagine why. love to all, THO |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 02:31:23
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Two questions, if I may . . . First, can Ed tell us any details at all yet about his short story that will appear in REALMS OF WAR? (Still scheduled for early 2008, I believe; yes?) And second: a rumor has reached me that Ed appeared as Elminster at a roleplayed wedding when he was in Australia, and there gave an in-character speech about courtship and marriage rituals in the Realms, that some lucky people have the text of. Is this true? And if so, is it a "super-collectible," or can Ed share its text with us? Thanks, Blueblade
P.S. Is there still no sign of Ed's promised SWORDS OF DRAGONFIRE "goodie" on the Wizards site, or did I somehow miss it? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31792 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 02:47:33
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My Lady Hooded One, a special thanks to both yourself and Ed for the speedy reply to my email. 'Twas a delightful read. And tell Ed, yes, I will be keeping in touch. I'll also ask the Lady K about that other matter as well.
quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
And "Softhips" is a pet name for me, of course; I CAN'T imagine why. love to all, THO
Oooh! Oooh! Do we get a special "Lady Hooded One-endorsed" prize if we can work it out?
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arry
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
317 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 13:17:31
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One . . . I'm currently trying to figure out just where I can sneak a brief scene into my future Realms fiction wherein two characters make love amid shards of Halruaan pottery. Or, I suppose, INSIDE some family-economy-sized Halruaan pottery. Hmm . . .
Now THAT I want to read |
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Toweighlo Thiobar
Acolyte
USA
1 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 16:49:37
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My wife and I (in the real world) have been taking ballroom dancing lessons, and are having a great time. I'm curious about ballroom dancing in the realms. Are there specific dances in places like Waterdeep or Cormyr? What do the nobles do at their revels? Do commoners have their own dances or the same?
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riot the outsider
Learned Scribe
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2007 : 17:58:16
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I have a question about the FR logo whats the upside down moon and six stars stand for? |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
1425 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 04:20:59
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Inspired by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin, I was curious Ed. Do Alternate layers realities exist in the Realms? Sort of like DC comic books? You're the original "Golden Age" Realms (though that would be Faerun-2 by DC standards), the modern FR verse is one, and everyone's campaign is in another level?
I just thought that's a fun idea.
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
USA
252 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 05:14:32
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as a side question to Charles question, how about shadows of Toril? I kinda envision that actually with the Mulhorandi. Since they were based off of Egyptians of Earth, perhaps the Egyptians and Mulhorandi are both shadows of a true location, and the "gods" are just reflections of the true gods (or people) located there. |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 05:52:15
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I got the impression that the Elminster/Ed conversations that used to show up in Dragon Magazine were canon, actually. Odd as that may seem. Yes, Elminster isn't Ed because El shows up at Ed's house to eat ice cream.
I think the old articles explicitly say that Elminster regularly visits Earth and present day Toril is contemporary with our world.
In other words, the Mulhorandi ARE Egyptians that got lost ala Stargate.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 05:55:13
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quote: Originally posted by Charles Phipps
I got the impression that the Elminster/Ed conversations that used to show up in Dragon Magazine were canon, actually. Odd as that may seem. Yes, Elminster isn't Ed because El shows up at Ed's house to eat ice cream.
I think the old articles explicitly say that Elminster regularly visits Earth and present day Toril is contemporary with our world.
In other words, the Mulhorandi ARE Egyptians that got lost ala Stargate.
Well, they are canon since theres El's portal to Ed's study in the Realmspace sourcebook and Code of the Harpers also says that El has visited Earth and chatted with Ed, etc. |
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
USA
252 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 07:54:43
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quote: Originally posted by Charles Phipps
I got the impression that the Elminster/Ed conversations that used to show up in Dragon Magazine were canon, actually. Odd as that may seem. Yes, Elminster isn't Ed because El shows up at Ed's house to eat ice cream.
I think the old articles explicitly say that Elminster regularly visits Earth and present day Toril is contemporary with our world.
In other words, the Mulhorandi ARE Egyptians that got lost ala Stargate.
well, I've generally stayed away from asking Ed about Mulhorand since it was never portrayed as he developed it in his original campaign. However, since we opened this small can of delicacies, I was always under the impression that they came from someplace "Earth-like", not Earth. Since we are dealing with a fantasy world, claiming that they are from our real world could cause problems, not to mention what happened to the gods.
I was looking up for religious marriages, and found Scott Benning's (sp?) adaptation of the Old Empires Part Deux, and found one there very elaborate and full of ceremony. Online, most true ancient Egyptian marriages that I have found were low key, with a signed contract, the family escorting the bride to the new house, and possibly a large dinner afterwards. whoop-te-do.
What are Ed's thoughts on a Mulhorandi marriage? How much Faeruniazation of Egyptian (or near-Egyptian) ceremonies (including burial and death) is there?
My thoughts (with nothing written in canon as of yet) are that it depends on the gaming group. A group that loves ceremonies and fancifications will eat up the former (Benning's) idea. A group that likes gritty, realistic stuff would prefer something closer to the latter, I think. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 09:36:00
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Both Ed and THO in their replies here at Candlekeep, have told us that there are Realms portals to Earth, but that it is the D&D interpretation of our world.
quote: Originally posted by Mkhaiwati
However, since we opened this small can of delicacies, I was always under the impression that they came from someplace "Earth-like", not Earth. Since we are dealing with a fantasy world, claiming that they are from our real world could cause problems, not to mention what happened to the gods.
Eric gave the strong impression they were kidnapped from Earth in Powers & Pantheons, but did not state so explicitly. Eric also hinted about this in Volo's Guide to All Things Magical, in the write up of the artifact relating to Ptah.
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
1425 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 21:47:21
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On my end, I tend to assume that Faerun is a slightly different universe from Earth and its possibly a parallel world (see the continents map and compare).
While not everyone likes mixing science fiction and fantasy. I tend to think it adds a fun dimension.
Pun intended.
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
2131 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2007 : 22:20:21
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A Question for Ed:
Knowing that you are writing 50,000 word for the 4th Edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, do you think that it will still be a place that the Realms grognards want to play (and DM)? |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 00:11:41
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Hello again, all. This note from Ed, just received:
Hi. To HawkinstheDM, re grognards: if I can do anything at all about it (and I can), the answer to this is emphatically: YES. 'Twon't be the same, but it WILL be worth "living" and adventuring in. Promise.
To riot the outsider: the current FR logo is an artist's redesign "updating" of the original one, which itself simplified from MY original design, which was the crescent moon encircled by nine stars: my own heraldic badge.
So saith Ed. Who will return with more Realmslore as often and regularly as possible. love to all, THO |
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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 00:29:44
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Thanks to The Hooded One and to Ed! |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 01:15:50
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quote: Originally posted by HawkinstheDM
Thanks to The Hooded One and to Ed!
Ditto! |
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Warrax
Learned Scribe
Canada
128 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 03:21:01
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quote: Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hello again, all. Warrax, Ed will indeed explore the various Faerunian philosophers and their written works here, when he has the time. That's precisely what he meant by "get to this," because the original questions he's responding to asked about books and the thinkers who penned them. As to WHEN he has the time; ah, that's the kicker. He's off to Pentacon soon, and horribly busy with writing work between now and the end of January. He's not even sure if he'll be able to keep up with his hitherto pretty-regular schedule of Realmslore replies here at the Keep! Sigh.
Well, it's good to hear he's latched onto the idea and I wish him good luck with all that's soon to come. :D |
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Silverstar1610
Acolyte
United Kingdom
4 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2007 : 15:20:18
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I’m a distant lurker and not very knowlegable about Realmslore, so I’m not 100% sure of the rules of this place, but as far as I can tell, there’s no problem with asking another question when your last one is still in the queue, so …
I’m interested in childbirth and children in the Realms. How high is the mortality rate for mothers and babies, particularly in Cormyr and in Silverymoon? Are there any forms of pain relief that are particularly used? How high is the occurrence of multiple births amongst humans?
I’d also be interested in hearing about childhood in Silverymoon, Cormyr and Waterdeep. How much do extended families get involved in raising children? What about schooling and education? And what would generally happen when adventurers have children, or anyone who has a profession which involves a great deal of travelling and danger – paladins, for example?
Oh, and can I be really cheeky and make an addition to the unanswered question I asked about Sunite wedding ceremonies? I’d like to know whether the church of Tymora would officiate over wedding ceremonies, and what they would be like too, if that’s ok?
Sorry for the myriad questions! I didn’t mean to ask quite so many. If they’ve been answered elsewhere, a kick in the right direction would be great.
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