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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  05:42:19  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message
I have another question to add to the pile. I was thinking about the film Gosford Park, and was interested in the movie for the view of the servants. I was interested in the servants quarters and passageways that the servants used, and the sheer number of servants one family had. Is there a Realms equivalent (Cormyr or Waterdeep spring to mind) of the British method of servants?

The novels that I have read that touched on the goings on within a noble estate (Stormlight and Waterdeep, for example) servants outside of a seneschal, head cook, or maid rarely make an appearance, possibly because, like in Victorian or Edwardian society, people rarely take notice of them. They blend into the background.

In the Realms, I expect they would also include a multitude of guards and possibly a pet mage or priest on hand, too, just to show off their wealth and give neighbors something catch up to; a version of "keeping up with the Joneses"

Anything that you could add would be most enlightening.

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AlorinDawn
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  13:38:00  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage Send AlorinDawn a Private Message
Good question Mkhaiwati

I wonder if Ed might share with us how many servants the average Waterhavian Noble House might have?

Thanks
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5056 Posts

Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  15:23:54  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello to George Krashos! Please check your PMs, as Ed struggles to connect with thee via various proxies.
Love,
THO
Your Proxy Doxy
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Neriandal Freit
Senior Scribe

USA
396 Posts

Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  15:53:50  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
Proxy Doxy? Sounds like a person to be with for a fun evening..

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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thom
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  17:19:49  Show Profile Send thom a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

I was curious as too the Zhent situation as well and wonder what drugs do they favor using when seeking to create addicts that are potentially dangerous as opposed to street level drugs for the average addict?


Hear, Hear! I was just going to ask Ed for his "Top 6" drugs of the Realms for those who indulge themselves that way! So, please THO, could you (if you know) or Ed give us said list? I don't really need stats as much as what they are and the general effect they have on the (un?)willing consumers...thanks!

thom
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MaxKaladin
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  18:56:12  Show Profile  Visit MaxKaladin's Homepage Send MaxKaladin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Unfortunately, all of them are NDA because TSR asked for sample charters in 1986 (and again, more, in 1987) and Ed sent them in via TSR's FedEx account. Which means TSR owns them and controls their publication. Whether or not they can still FIND them is another matter , but doesn't change their legal status.

I kind of figured something like this would be the case if he'd written them up.

As a side note, I've got to agree that some of these NDAs seem ludicrously old and really ought to be reviewed, but I doubt Ed has the time and I doubt WotC would consider it worth bothering with.

(One thing that amazes me is that he can remember everything that's covered by all the NDAs. I've been under NDAs before and I doubt I could remember after 15 years or so what, specifically, was covered by any of the NDAs I was under in the early 90s. Of course, those NDAs are no longer active but still...)

Thanks for sending my question on.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  19:12:43  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by thom

quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

I was curious as too the Zhent situation as well and wonder what drugs do they favor using when seeking to create addicts that are potentially dangerous as opposed to street level drugs for the average addict?


Hear, Hear! I was just going to ask Ed for his "Top 6" drugs of the Realms for those who indulge themselves that way! So, please THO, could you (if you know) or Ed give us said list? I don't really need stats as much as what they are and the general effect they have on the (un?)willing consumers...thanks!

thom



Can't say for sure, but I'd bet alcohol would be in the top 6--it seems to be as common in the Realms as it is in the real world.

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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  19:24:21  Show Profile  Visit Gray Richardson's Homepage Send Gray Richardson a Private Message
Lords of Darkness has a lot of information on drugs and the drug trade, including game effects. You might want to peruse that source while you are waiting on Ed to reply.
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ddporter
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  21:38:33  Show Profile Send ddporter a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gray Richardson

Lords of Darkness has a lot of information on drugs and the drug trade, including game effects.



The 2001 3e Lords of Darkness has this information. The 1989 supplement does not.
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AlorinDawn
Learned Scribe

USA
313 Posts

Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  21:52:12  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage Send AlorinDawn a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

quote:
Originally posted by thom

quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

I was curious as too the Zhent situation as well and wonder what drugs do they favor using when seeking to create addicts that are potentially dangerous as opposed to street level drugs for the average addict?


Hear, Hear! I was just going to ask Ed for his "Top 6" drugs of the Realms for those who indulge themselves that way! So, please THO, could you (if you know) or Ed give us said list? I don't really need stats as much as what they are and the general effect they have on the (un?)willing consumers...thanks!

thom



Can't say for sure, but I'd bet alcohol would be in the top 6--it seems to be as common in the Realms as it is in the real world.




I'm pretty sure Ed has a post on an older thread that concerns drugs in the Realms.
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The Sage
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Posted - 20 Feb 2007 :  23:11:50  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
Indeed, Ed has. They're scattered throughout his replies over the years. Use the search function through the compiled reply files.

Eric also included a new drug and a drug dealer in DUNGEON #126 - Blood of Malar.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Feb 2007 :  00:29:42  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, fellow scribes. Jamallo Kreen recently posted this: “Reading Blackstaff, I saw Steven's use of the word "incunabula," whose meaning I know, but whose application in Faerun I question. Just how long has printing been around in Faerun? Is there a prejudice against printed books (as opposed to hand-scribed books)? Do some parents now try to keep their children ignorant of the art of reading lest they waste their time reading scurrilous chapbooks and other questionable materials which are now available to anyone with a few coins? On the other hand, do some parents (or heads of households, at least) actively seek out "pious" literature and insist that their household members read nothing but morally edifying books and pamphlets?
Which spawns the question: what are the better-known works of printed piety, and, conversely, what are the more notorious books of religious parody (or outright pornography), which hide behind a pious title (maybe with "uplifting" woodcuts on the cover and title page, too, just to throw Pa off'n the scent of sulfur)?”
The last paragraph was subsequently pretty much answered, but Ed now essays a reply to the rest of Jamallo Kreen’s questions:



No one is sure how long printing has been around in the Realms, because it keeps being reinvented and then “lost” again as cultures (such as Netheril) fall. Most recently, printing has been going on for at least three centuries in Calimshan, Murghom, and nearby independent cities, but gaining popularity along the Sword Coast just for a few decades.
Yes, there is a prejudice among some (mainly older, more conservative sages and wealthy (often noble) collectors against printed books (versus hand-scribed), but it’s not prevalent; “most” folk of Faerűn are happy that they can get books, chapbooks, and broadsheets swiftly, easily, and far more cheaply than they would if printing wasn’t available.
Very few parents now try to keep their children ignorant of the art of reading, because reading and bookkeeping are seen as vital by guilds and in trade. As learning to read is often done through perusing broadsheets or little books of “fireside tales” (some cautionary, some erotic, but mainly “funny human nature farces”) that parents have purchased and used already (so a child is “reading along” with a parent a story they have heard read aloud to them before), “keeping scurrilous stuff” from kiddies is a losing game from the start and an attitude rare in polytheistic, closer-to-nature Faerűn than in our real world.
A rare few heads of households will try to censor reading, but rarely with success (and they’re doomed from the start in any busy-trade-route community or large city, where reading opportunities are so widely available). Don’t forget that there are actually “gentle comfort lasses” (what we might call “friendly escorts for older men who want kisses and cuddles more than sex, but in many cases won’t mind a striptease or even a lap dance”) who attract business by going to inn feasting halls, tavern taprooms, or clubs clad in form-fitting bodysuits upon which stories or jokes or even poems and song lyrics have been written in small characters. This allows everyone to have a pretext for staring intently at their bodies (for free), and “readers” who are interested enough can sidle around later to purchase a better look at the bared bodies. :}



So saith Ed. We Knights have encountered such ladies more than once. Torm grew quite fond of asking them to roll over, or stretch into wanton contortions, so he could better read “the tail end of that sentence,” or “this little passage here that I can’t quite see.”
Subtle lad.
love to all,
THO
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Feb 2007 :  03:53:30  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So saith Ed. We Knights have encountered such ladies more than once. Torm grew quite fond of asking them to roll over, or stretch into wanton contortions, so he could better read “the tail end of that sentence,” or “this little passage here that I can’t quite see.”
Subtle lad.
love to all,
THO




As subtle as a fireball.

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AlorinDawn
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 21 Feb 2007 :  23:58:05  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage Send AlorinDawn a Private Message
Ed,

I have a question about what locals the following creatures (from Dragon #89 Creature Catalog)can be found in the realms in their greatest numbers: Bohun tree, Calygraunt, Cantobelle, and the Failtail. I'm just trying to get an idea of where you placed these creatures in your home campaign, if you have used them, and a few places you envision their larger populations living.

THO, If you can, please tell us of any encounters you knights had with these creatures if it doesn't fall in the dreaded NDA teritory.

Thanks

Edited by - AlorinDawn on 22 Feb 2007 00:05:17
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 22 Feb 2007 :  00:37:12  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message
Hi Ed Greenwood

I was wandering if you could give us some more information on the Wormtower, described in Volo's Guide to Cormyr.

I would like to know about the history behind what happened at the unique site and a little more information on this mage Nandar?

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AlorinDawn
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 22 Feb 2007 :  13:47:44  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage Send AlorinDawn a Private Message
Ed & THO,

Yet another question for the stacks about Ed's creatures from Dragon #89's Creature Catalog article. Can you tell us about the Sind populations in the Realms and where they are found? Can you provide any additional information on Sindar?

I vaguely remember yyyyyyears ago finding out the hard way about the Sind's imprisonment ability.



Thanks

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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Feb 2007 :  18:58:28  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, fellow scribes. Jamallo Kreen recently posted this: “Reading Blackstaff,

(snip)

The last paragraph was subsequently pretty much answered, but Ed now essays a reply to the rest of Jamallo Kreen’s questions:



(snip)

Very few parents now try to keep their children ignorant of the art of reading, because reading and bookkeeping are seen as vital by guilds and in trade. As learning to read is often done through perusing broadsheets or little books of “fireside tales” (some cautionary, some erotic, but mainly “funny human nature farces”) that parents have purchased and used already (so a child is “reading along” with a parent a story they have heard read aloud to them before), “keeping scurrilous stuff” from kiddies is a losing game from the start and an attitude rare in polytheistic, closer-to-nature Faerűn than in our real world.

(snip)




Oh my deities! Ed -- are you saying that the principal reading matter of the Realms is -- basically -- comparable to The Reader's Digest? Nooooooo!


Apropos of the last line which I quoted, are there any places in the Realms which have a reputation (justified or not) for producing salacious literature or art (things like "Paris postcards" and "Tijuana Bibles")?


I have a mouth, but I am in a library and must not scream.


Feed the poor and stroke your ego, too: http://www.freerice.com/index.php.

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Feb 2007 :  21:24:53  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, all. Ed couldn't resist replying to Jamallo Kreen right away:


Sure. Lots of places. Scornubel. Throughout the Tashalar. Dambrath (!), and certain cities in Calimshan and Tethyr. Luskan (bestiality, snuff, mutilation, forced human/monster matings), Mulmaster (ditto). Telflamm, some cities in Chessenta.
Of course, such things tend to cater to local tastes. Yes, caravan merchants are known as sources of such things - - and you can "pay to view" in a tavern back room, late at night, as well as buying. :}


So saith Ed. Torm has quite a collection, BTW. Surprise.
love to all,
THO
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Feb 2007 :  23:35:39  Show Profile Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Luskan (bestiality, snuff, mutilation, forced human/monster matings), Mulmaster (ditto). Telflamm, some cities in Chessenta.
Of course, such things tend to cater to local tastes. Yes, caravan merchants are known as sources of such things - - and you can "pay to view" in a tavern back room, late at night, as well as buying. :}

Please tell me that no donkey was ever hurt in Luskan or Mulmaster...
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althen artren
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Got another question about the Baneblades while you have those notes out, Ed. When exactly was Dragathil recovered? In my version of the Realms, I have it as the sword of the Arms Major of Evereska, but would like to have the back story if not covered by a *crunch* NDA.

Thanks.
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createvmind
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Posted - 25 Feb 2007 :  19:07:54  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello all,


Quick question, are there Dire Horses in Faerun, a PC of mine has out of the clear blue floated this Dire horse idea around with the others now they are asking if they wished to go Dire-horse hunting where would they find such a creature.

I said simply cause a template exist doesn't mean it applies in Faerun but I want to be sure of this, even though if they were to find such a creature I don't see anyone capable of riding or training it.
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Rygad
Acolyte

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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 :  06:44:30  Show Profile  Visit Rygad's Homepage Send Rygad a Private Message
I have a question about Malvin Draga, current Keeper of the Bridges in Everlund. Specifically, who he is and how he was selected to be the Keeper of the Bridges. From reading Silver Marches it isn't clear to me if it is a position appointed by the other Council of Elders members or if the occupant is selected by some other means. Any other information that Ed would care to share on Malvin (or any of the Council) would be greatly appreciated. I'd like to tie Malvin into some of my ongoing plots, but I'm having a hard time working out how he may have come to power.

Thanks so much for your time and thank you very much for all the lore you've shared here at Candlekeep. That's of course in addition to your role of High Exalted Realms Creator, for which I can't thank you enough.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 26 Feb 2007 :  15:01:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello, all. Ed has emerged for a breather between one top-secret project and another (he’s allowing himself three hours, but eating dinner and doing the dishes are part of that), and is pleased to have the opportunity to answer WalkerNinja re. this recent question: “Lady THO, This is less a Realms related question and more an Ed related question. It is the practice of some professional authors (Dan Brown for example) to write the final chapter or epilogue first when writing a novel, and then to trace the route up to that point. Similarly, my History professor recently revealed to us the method by which one should read a book (from his perspective, a perspective shared by many of my professors, no less): That one should begin by reading the introduction, then the conclusion, then re-read the introduction... ponder it, then read the remaining chapters in order. Does Ed share this writing formula? Would he tend to agree with the method proscribed by my professors?”
Ed replies:



I’ve written or co-written somewhere over 170 books in my life thus far, and have tried many, many different ways of doing it (not just in a probably futile search for “the right” way, but also just for plain old fun).
I once co-wrote a novel from (my) last chapter backwards towards the front (DEATH OF THE DRAGON); I was awaiting my angioplasty and wanted to do the chapter that mattered most (see the book title) first, in case I didn’t make it, so to speak.
Usually, I don’t have the luxury of using the Dan Brown method you cite, although I have done it. If I’m writing a game book, an outline or structure is provided for me, often with page-count breakdowns (“22 pages on Skydiving Sex, 3 on Getting Insurance, 2 for Dry Land Practicing”), and if I’m writing a novel, I must submit an outline of the story to the editor before starting to write. (Obviously, I could still write the ending, work backwards, and then pretend I’d gone in the other direction when dressing it up as an outline, but I’m simply too busy to play games of that sort. Most professional writers manage a book a year, “plus a little bit” (a start on the next one); I haven’t done less than five in any year since I started writing professionally, and I’ve always had day jobs throughout, as well (I did or co-wrote eleven books one year, but I darned near broke me).
It’s been said that there are as many ways to write a book as there are writers; whatever works for you is the right one, for you, for that book. We all try different things, or are forced into different things, but tend to settle on one or two “usual ways” and stick to them. The hardest projects are those that involve fighting with editors or others over the way to create something (“I need the first six chapters, completely finished in final draft, tomorrow, and I’ll start typesetting them while you write the rest” is a comment that can paralyze some writers; others merely shrug, nod, and keep writing).
Your history professor is outlining a reading method that works ONLY for non-fiction books; it will utterly ruin enjoyment of most fiction (and if you aren’t enjoying fiction, why are you reading it? If the answer is “I hate this book, but I have to read if for school,” then maybe that dissection method will work, though if it’s a “difficult” book for you, it won’t help much because it shatters the experience of reading along as the author develops his / her arguments and presents his / her case).
Your history professor’s method is very useful to someone seeking to decide swiftly if a (non-fiction) book is worth reading at all for them; in other words, it’s a superb elimination method, that can also be useful in ranking books that escape being eliminated (“The Jason volume seems more interesting and relevant, so I’ll read it before the Whitsun.”).
I would never, ever apply your professor’s method to a fiction work I was reading for pleasure; it would ruin every book for me. (I know some people who enjoy whodunits by reading the final chapter first so they know who’s guilty, and then going back to the beginning and reading to see how the writer tries to trick the reader, but far, far more people HATE knowing who did it before they get through the story in the usual manner.)
However, a professor reading a new release in his field will sometimes read the preface to see the approach, tone, and scope of the book, jump to the end to see what conclusion is reached, and then sit in judgement (again, on whether or not the book bears reading, and how urgently). I worked with plenty of veteran journalists who never read anything for pleasure, who would apply this same method to a shelf of novels to see if something was relevant for yielding a quote, or could be alluded to when “faking” a scholarly review (mentioning ULYSSES or LEAVES OF GRASS without actually bothering to read them). It’s not ethical, but it’s often done. When deadline is ten minutes away, ethics all too often go out the window. :}
So there’s my agreement and lack of it.
Look at it this way: if you’d written the book your professor is handling in this manner, would you want it examined in this way? If you can answer ‘yes,’ then the method is okay with you, but if you answer ‘no’ . . .



So saith Ed. Who is embarking, remember, on reading literally hundreds (perhaps thousands) of fantasy works published in 2006 so as to judge the World Fantasy Awards. My, he’s a glutton for punishment; I should drop by some day with a few whips, and we can explore that . . .
love to all,
THO
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  15:00:01  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
I pass this question on to Ed from a questor (let's call him Anonymous Realmsguy) who has no Net access, and reproduce it here so other scribes will know what's going on when Ed replies. . . .

A Cormyr question, if you will, O Creator:
If I am a middle-class shopkeeper in Suzail, who's never left the city in my life and has little contact with adventurers or caravan merchants, how much do I really "know" about the western end of the realm (west of High Horn) or the far northeastern (Hullack Forest)?
Thanks!

Edited by - The Hooded One on 28 Feb 2007 15:01:52
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 28 Feb 2007 :  15:03:18  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, scribes. This time Ed answers Mkhaiwati, re this: “I have another question to add to the pile. I was thinking about the film Gosford Park, and was interested in the movie for the view of the servants. I was interested in the servants quarters and passageways that the servants used, and the sheer number of servants one family had. Is there a Realms equivalent (Cormyr or Waterdeep spring to mind) of the British method of servants?
The novels that I have read that touched on the goings on within a noble estate (Stormlight and Waterdeep, for example) servants outside of a seneschal, head cook, or maid rarely make an appearance, possibly because, like in Victorian or Edwardian society, people rarely take notice of them. They blend into the background.
In the Realms, I expect they would also include a multitude of guards and possibly a pet mage or priest on hand, too, just to show off their wealth and give neighbors something catch up to; a version of "keeping up with the Joneses"
Anything that you could add would be most enlightening.”
Ed replies:



Well, the main reason you rarely read about other servants in my books is that they get edited out because I overwrite. :}
Glancing at pages 22 through 24 of POWER OF FAERUN should give you a skeletal outline of the “bare minimum” servants for a duchal “and up” household. Let me scale things down.
Anyone in Waterdeep or Suzail with wealth enough (not just nobles) will have the following servants:
1. A housemaid (cook and cleaner, may also act as dresser, kitchen gardener, and errand runner).
2. If they gave more wealth, they will usually (this of course depends on whether or not the household contains children and / or invalid parents, etc.) add a cook.
3. If they get still more money, the third servant will be a “houseman” or “jack” (acts as gardener, doorguard, errand runner, coachman or conveyance hirer, handyman), unless there’s an urgent need for a tutor / governess (i.e. children in the household).
4. “The other one” (either the jack or the tutor/governess, whichever comes second), or a chambermaid (laundress and cleaner, also fetch-and-carry server of meals and drinkables).
5. Gardener or Hosteler (stable-keeper) or “back door jack” (does dirty work, yard work, butchering and smoking of meats, errands, doorguarding).
6. Scribe (accountant, letter-writer, ordering of stores, often fetching them and shopping around town for household necessities).
7. Chatelaine (female household manager) or seneschal (male household manager/ butler)
8. From here on, maids (personal dressers, and maids-of-chamber) and doorjacks (footmen) and stable lads get added as necessary.
Usually a butler-like impressive person will be foremost among them, either to add gravitas to the “overall show” for visitors, or in the case of aging female ‘masters’ or aging or ugly male masters, a sexy male or female servant who dresses and acts in a “hot” manner to imply that the master can personally attract such a person.
Larger households add dedicated-task servants such as coachmen, gardeners, armsmasters (who train and head personal bodyguards), scullery and pantry maids, limners (painters), seamstresses, and bedwarmers (live-in personal sexual companions). Paranoid nobles and wealthy merchants even employ body doubles, if they can find them.
Some young wealthy men (especially noblemen searching for a wife and not wanting to be trammeled with a female servant, or noblemen living on their parents’ coin, who have servants chosen or hired for them) will have just “a man” to be their cook, dresser, and butler (Jeeves style) all in one. In the Realms they often refer to such servants as “my jack.” If there is a LITTLE more money, a “come in” cook and / or cleaning lady will visit for a few morning hours to prepare meals, take away mending and laundry to be done, and dust or clean the rooms, supervised by the jack, NOT the master.
“Swinging” young men with coin enough often hire two or three doxies (good-looking prostitutes) to keep house for them, but this seldom lasts long, unless the young man either doesn’t mind being stolen from, or doesn’t mind them entertaining other men on the premises for pay (turning tricks behind his back). There are of course some men who turn themselves into brothel keepers in this manner, or even arrange for slavers to come and “take away” doxies they’ve become tired of, or come to hate but can’t see a good way to be rid of.
I can go on and on with this topic, but this should be enough for you to DM with. Just determine what a character can afford, what “show” they want to present to the wider world, and their real needs, and pick a spot on this scale for them.



So saith Ed. Great question, solid useful answer. Bring more on!
love to all,
THO
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AlorinDawn
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Ed & THO,

I cannot find any information on the web about when Pentacon is, and registration information. Could you provide a link if there is one?

Thanks
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Kajehase
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The Pentacon webpage. I'd suggest clicking the link below "Event registration is now open!"

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Jamallo Kreen
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi, all. Ed couldn't resist replying to Jamallo Kreen right away:


Sure. Lots of places. Scornubel. Throughout the Tashalar. Dambrath (!), and certain cities in Calimshan and Tethyr. Luskan (bestiality, snuff, mutilation, forced human/monster matings), Mulmaster (ditto). Telflamm, some cities in Chessenta.

Of course, such things tend to cater to local tastes. Yes, caravan merchants are known as sources of such things - - and you can "pay to view" in a tavern back room, late at night, as well as buying. :}


So saith Ed. Torm has quite a collection, BTW. Surprise.
love to all,
THO




Ed, I bow to you in awe and amazement. Thank you!

Apropos of thanking you, I suppose I should earn that Senior Scribe chair and mention that I perused the compiled 2004 answers from you (thanks, kuje!). The selection which I made for further review for my own campaign runs into the hundreds of pages in Word.doc formatting!

Dear patrons of Candlekeep, let us realize that Ed's answers here in a given year amount to one or two complete books in Realmslore! Praise be to Ed!

Apropos of the 2004 posts, I found therein the answer to a recent query regarding mail and package delivery, but I can't recall if it was posted here or left to its own thread. Wherever it is, I have Ed's (definitive) 2004 answer to the question for whoever was seeking that lore.



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The Hooded One
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Posted - 02 Mar 2007 :  15:33:38  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. This time Ed responds to Daviot regarding this recent query: “Dear Ed and the lovely hooded lady, I finally got around to reading my copy of The Best of the Realms, volume 2, having read volume 1 a few months ago. I severely enjoy the wry quotes (usually courtesy of Volo) at the beginning of the stories. On that note, on the story "Bloodbound"; beyond Fzoul and his temptation over the armlet, what exactly happened to Tace (Tantaraze) after her fateful meeting with Storm?”
Ed replies:



Ah, I’d love to tell you, but the answer to that is NDA. I CAN say that Bloodbound, two DRAGON editors ago, was originally supposed to be the launch story for a series of adventures of Tantaraze (short stories to be published in the pages of DRAGON, a project now abandoned), from which you can easily guess that her story isn’t over.
Hence the NDA. MY hopes is that you’ll certainly read more some day. Where and when, I’m not so sure.



So saith Ed. Ah, yes, the lovely Tace. I could tell a tale or two about this character, too, but NDA, as they say. Sigh.
love to all,
THO
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Blueblade
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Agreed, J K. I lust for the time Wizards starts compiling Ed's website Realmslore and printing them as books. I'd buy them (but then, I'd buy a collection of real-world-useless Ed-written fantasy recipes, too)!
My question for this post is: Suzail is a wealthy and bustling port and a capitol city, but how many of its citizens are poor/underclass/struggling labourers? (As opposed to stable-employment, well-fed but underpaid shopkeepers assistants, etc.?)
Thanks!
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