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Besshalar
Learned Scribe
Finland
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 Posted - 21 Dec 2006 : 20:56:29
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Okay I searched the threads over here and I didn't seem to find out. Where can I find information on Orcus. Current and old .
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 : 21:26:09
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Most of the Realms info on Orcus can be found in the old H1-4 1st edition modules
If your using the Great Wheel Cosmology then you may be interested in an old planescape module called Dead Gods
However there are several large holes in the Dead Gods story as it relates to the Realms thanks to Gareths Dragonsbane (Who offcially completed the H1-4 modules which end with Gareth destroying the Wand of Orcus) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 21 Dec 2006 : 22:28:05
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Great Modron March, Tomb of Magic, Dragons of Faerun, Demihuman Deities, Book of Vile Darkness, Faiths & Pantheons, Player's Guide to Faerun, Bloodstone Lands, Unapproachable East for one of his clerics, Manual of the Planes for 3e, and Hordes of the Abyss.
And there are a few threads on here about Orcus. One from August where both Eric and Eytan chimed in on how Planescape material and FR material doesn't conflict. It was before Gencon.
Edit: Found it.
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6999&SearchTerms=orcus |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 : 23:20:32
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Before this goes any further... We are NOT having the Orcus debate yet again. We've done it before, we don't need to do it again. If this thread even veers in that direction, I'll lock it down.  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 : 23:29:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Before this goes any further... We are NOT having the Orcus debate yet again. We've done it before, we don't need to do it again. If this thread even veers in that direction, I'll lock it down.
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Besshalar
Learned Scribe
Finland
166 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 11:03:17
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| Yes let's not have the orcus debate again i read through it and it seemed rather pointless in the end. I was just wondering about the accessories/modules that would have info on him . Since I'm involved in a campaign with a necromancer . |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 17:40:19
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Originally posted by Besshalar
Yes let's not have the orcus debate again i read through it and it seemed rather pointless in the end. I was just wondering about the accessories/modules that would have info on him . Since I'm involved in a campaign with a necromancer .
Well between my reply and Dargoth's, you have most if not all of the sourcebooks that has info on him. There's probably some 1e material that I'm forgetting like 1e's Manual of the Planes, etc. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 17:43:45
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| If you have access to it, the Ghostwalk Campaign Option book from 3.0 days has information on Orcus' faith as a full blown religion, as they are major villains in that particular setting. |
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Besshalar
Learned Scribe
Finland
166 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 18:36:41
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Hmmm interesting I have to and read through that entry in the bookstore :) .... Thanks for the help once again
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 23:11:09
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Besshalar
Yes let's not have the orcus debate again i read through it and it seemed rather pointless in the end. I was just wondering about the accessories/modules that would have info on him . Since I'm involved in a campaign with a necromancer .
Well between my reply and Dargoth's, you have most if not all of the sourcebooks that has info on him. There's probably some 1e material that I'm forgetting like 1e's Manual of the Planes, etc.
I'll add Races of Faerun and Champions of Ruin to this listing as well, for historical Orcus/fiend-related details.
And the Fiendish Codex I.
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2006 : 23:21:59
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Besshalar
Yes let's not have the orcus debate again i read through it and it seemed rather pointless in the end. I was just wondering about the accessories/modules that would have info on him . Since I'm involved in a campaign with a necromancer .
Well between my reply and Dargoth's, you have most if not all of the sourcebooks that has info on him. There's probably some 1e material that I'm forgetting like 1e's Manual of the Planes, etc.
I'll add Races of Faerun and Champions of Ruin to this listing as well, for historical Orcus/fiend-related details.
And the Fiendish Codex I.
I had fiendish codex in my 1st list. :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2006 : 00:17:43
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Kuje
I had fiendish codex in my 1st list. :)
Yeah, but I used it's primary title.
Hordes of the Abyss is it's primary title, to me.
Oh yeah, Champions of Valor also to get the info that is the opposite info of Champions of Ruin. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
1425 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2007 : 00:18:23
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Well it's only a framing of the books but if we were to assume it's all canon then it probably went down like this.
Timeline
* Bloodstone pass modules result in the destruction of the Wand of Orcus and his avatar.
* Kir seizes the opportunity to kill the God.
* Orcus dies.
* Orcus becomes a undead God.
* Orcus kills a number of minor gods that probably existed in the Realms.
* Orcus sets himself up on Mechanus (probably Gond's realm in Faerun)
* One of his priests resurrects him.
* Orcus sets himself back up on Faerun.
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
USA
492 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2007 : 19:15:16
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Dead Gods, and Fiendish Codex I are the deepest of the sources already mentioned, and I'll second them both. My personal preference only, I'd avoid like the plague the portions of the H modules that deal with the Abyss (and FC:I retreads the same ground in much better fashion).
But a source that hasn't been mentioned yet is the 2e module 'Return to the Tomb of Horrors'. A large portion of the module takes place in the demiplane of Moil/The City that Waits, which was originally a city on the (now dead) world of Ranais. Moil was devoted to the worship of Orcus, and when they turned away from him, the archfiend/god ripped the city from the face of its planet. The module's description of Moil has some really nice stuff regarding the worship of Orcus, and it would be very easy to incorporate it into other sources.
Irony is that I just had to reread that section of the module for something I was writing. Really good stuff. |
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Charles Phipps
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 08 Jan 2007 : 21:13:07
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Irony is that I'm incorporating Orcus into my storyline right now.
I'm upping the Little keep on the Borderlands for 10th level adventurers and instead am using a massive dungeon and priests of Orcus.
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Shemmy
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 17 Feb 2007 : 23:01:57
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Originally posted by Shemmy
Irony is that I just had to reread that section of the module for something I was writing. Really good stuff.
And now that that something is out, I'll mention it. The demiplane article in Dragon #353 has a section on Moil, with a bit of relevant lore on Orcus, etc. |
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lokilokust
Seeker
USA
61 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2007 : 13:12:05
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now i'm curious as to the nature of 'the orcus debate.'
would it be too gauche to ask for a link?
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also, i'm using a cult of orcus as the main villains in my current campaign- a plot to elevate orcus from demon prince to god of death in faerun. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Feb 2007 : 16:29:45
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Originally posted by lokilokust
now i'm curious as to the nature of 'the orcus debate.'
would it be too gauche to ask for a link?
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also, i'm using a cult of orcus as the main villains in my current campaign- a plot to elevate orcus from demon prince to god of death in faerun.
Eh? I did link it in my first post in this thread...... |
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lokilokust
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 24 Feb 2007 : 16:43:03
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| good heavens, i've gone blind with stupidity! |
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lokilokust
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 24 Feb 2007 : 16:50:37
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| (erm... meaning my own, for missing your link, earlier.) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 24 Feb 2007 : 16:52:26
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Grin,
No problem. |
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