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duke121005
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 24 Nov 2006 :  23:53:13  Show Profile  Visit duke121005's Homepage Send duke121005 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I am starting to forget the names as I've read just about every one. All i remember is that there is a young man who has joined some evil cult but ends up helping the good characters in the end. Another novel, which may or may not be the same, if i remember has the charactesr in some city that if i remember had a lot of vertical levels. There was a really bad part of the city in which the ground levels were very dangerous. I seem to recall the book starting in a bar with the main character and his large friend. Thanks

Koushiro
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  03:53:42  Show Profile  Visit Koushiro's Homepage Send Koushiro a Private Message  Reply with Quote
do you have any idea if this was part of a series, or if it was a newer or older book?
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scererar
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  04:41:40  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by duke121005

I am starting to forget the names as I've read just about every one. All i remember is that there is a young man who has joined some evil cult but ends up helping the good characters in the end. Another novel, which may or may not be the same, if i remember has the charactesr in some city that if i remember had a lot of vertical levels. There was a really bad part of the city in which the ground levels were very dangerous. I seem to recall the book starting in a bar with the main character and his large friend. Thanks



If you have read just about everyone, maybe you can narrow things down for us a bit, eh?

I too have read nearly every FR novel, but I think a little more info is needed here, my friend
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scererar
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  04:47:18  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
could the second one be crypt of the shadowking? or curse of the shadowmage? it has a portion of the novel in a city with, it appears to be several levels. Additionally, the main character has a friend in the novels that is very large, and a follower of Oghma. hope that helps a little
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maransreth
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Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  06:59:51  Show Profile Send maransreth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe this might be Mistress of the Night (one of the Priests series) by Don Bassingthwaite and Dave Gross.
The yound man is a magic-less son of 2 wizards, who uses a rapier (Keph) and he gets Shar's sigil on him. His large friend is Jarull who lures Keph into the Sharran cult. Keph ends up helping the Selunites outside of Yhaunn.
The vertical levels is the Stiltways in which Keph does some fighting.
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Kaladorm
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  09:37:50  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by duke121005

I am starting to forget the names as I've read just about every one. All i remember is that there is a young man who has joined some evil cult but ends up helping the good characters in the end. Another novel, which may or may not be the same, if i remember has the charactesr in some city that if i remember had a lot of vertical levels. There was a really bad part of the city in which the ground levels were very dangerous. I seem to recall the book starting in a bar with the main character and his large friend. Thanks



City of Ravens?
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scererar
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  15:59:23  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was going back to older novels, due to the fact that the scribe had forgotten which one it was... hmmm I like solving things, give us some more thoughts my friend, and I bet someone here will find the answer for you.

I also am starting to think city of ravens

Edited by - scererar on 25 Nov 2006 16:00:27
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mavericace
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  18:40:55  Show Profile  Visit mavericace's Homepage Send mavericace a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well he could check out the book list on this wonderfull site and read the back covers if that would help.
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Braveheart
Learned Scribe

Austria
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  23:13:05  Show Profile  Visit Braveheart's Homepage Send Braveheart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds like "The Rage"... are you sure the halfling Will is the main character?

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Alaundo
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Posted - 25 Nov 2006 :  23:56:13  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scererar

could the second one be crypt of the shadowking? or curse of the shadowmage? it has a portion of the novel in a city with, it appears to be several levels. Additionally, the main character has a friend in the novels that is very large, and a follower of Oghma. hope that helps a little



Well met

I was thinking the very same earlier, scererar. I think it was the mention of "several levels" which made me think straight away of Iraeabor. The adventuring party in the book has a member who owns a tavern, in which they spend quite a bit of time...if I recall correctly.

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Kuje
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 :  00:40:53  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I dunno, I thought of the Undermountain book when he mentioned several levels.

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duke121005
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 :  01:02:18  Show Profile  Visit duke121005's Homepage Send duke121005 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yah must be Mistress of the Night. Thanks a lot. I'm curious about these other novels as i've never really heard of . an older series? I've read every new novel but a few older ones have escaped me (only read 2 of azure bonds). Hard to find, i found once around the realms featuring Volo in an incredibly old bookstore hidden in a back corner. Thanks again though all.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 :  01:19:13  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To be honest, duke, the plot you've described can fit a great number of fantasy novels (FR novels included). What city in the Realms doesn't have many layers to it, for example?

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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 26 Nov 2006 01:19:41
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Lysan Lurraxol
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 :  12:16:26  Show Profile  Visit Lysan Lurraxol's Homepage Send Lysan Lurraxol a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The bit about the city soundsl like Mistress of the Night, and the bear could be a wolf.
I may be wrong though.

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MerrikCale
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USA
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 :  12:58:16  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lysan Lurraxol

The bit about the city soundsl like Mistress of the Night, and the bear could be a wolf.
I may be wrong though.



I'm thinking Mistress of the Night not Iriabor myself.



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Kajehase
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Posted - 26 Nov 2006 :  18:17:28  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd say the second one sounds like The Black Bouquet by Richad Lee Byers.

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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  00:13:58  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are elements of duke's initial post that almost make it sound like Venom's Taste to me.

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MerrikCale
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Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  02:33:34  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

I'd say the second one sounds like The Black Bouquet by Richad Lee Byers.



It does. You're right



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