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Stout Heart
Learned Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 06 Sep 2008 : 20:15:51
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1155 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 02:35:11
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*thread necromancy*
Noone wants to know anything else about the wiki? Seems most scribes have a pre-set viewpoint regarding our little project. I'd like to get more support from official sources as well as members of the community. So far, we've talked to Todd Lockwood and Paul Kemp. Looking to find out whether WotC is ever going to resurrect the 'official' FR wiki project. |
When life turns it's back on you...sneak attack for extra damage.
Head admin of the FR wiki:
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Nerfed2Hell
Senior Scribe
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 02:48:47
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Originally posted by hashimashadoo
Noone wants to know anything else about the wiki?
I missed the bandwagon about speaking against the wiki because of the possibility of having flawed or misleading information creep in due to biased editors... and, frankly, am glad I did.
I like the wikia layout for information gathering, and I'd like to see the Realms really thoroughly detailed as much as possible in this format for easy reference. Its not that I'm lazy, its just that sometimes I have an idea for an adventure or character and can't remember details (or where to look for them) and don't have the time before the next game session to start paging through every novel and sourcebook I own. |
Some people are like a slinky... not good for much, but when you push them down the stairs, it makes you smile. |
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hashimashadoo
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1155 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 02:54:06
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| That's exactly why i took over the wiki from it's defunct founder. I wanted to turn it into not only an encyclopedia but a comprehensive DM's reference tool. |
When life turns it's back on you...sneak attack for extra damage.
Head admin of the FR wiki:
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/ |
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Christopher_Rowe
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
879 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 03:06:03
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I check the FR Wiki frequently, if only as the easiest place to find complete lists of published gaming sources.
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My Realms novel, Sandstorm, is now available for ordering. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 03:11:02
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Before it even starts again, I'd just like to note that we really don't need to debate this whole sub-topic again. It's been dealt with. So please leave it at that.
I'd prefer that all future scribes intent on contributing to this discussion, concentrate specifically on the question Hashimashadoo has recently brought up here in this scroll. |
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Nerfed2Hell
Senior Scribe
USA
387 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 04:15:56
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
We really don't need to debate this whole sub-topic again. It's been dealt with. So please leave it at that.
I thought I had...
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Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell
I missed the bandwagon about speaking against the wiki because of the possibility of having flawed or misleading information creep in due to biased editors... and, frankly, am glad I did.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 05:37:40
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quote:
Originally posted by Nerfed2Hell
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
We really don't need to debate this whole sub-topic again. It's been dealt with. So please leave it at that.
I thought I had...
My post was mainly a warning to future scribes who may have felt the need to debate the issue further, as I indicated in the next part of the post which you just quoted. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 03 Oct 2008 : 19:55:02
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A Mod pre-emptive strike? 
Are you also looking for WMDs? 
Anyhow, I can see this is a 'touchy' subject, but I find the Wiki useful. At least once a week (it used to be at least once a day) I come across a reference to something or someone I don't recognize, and I can usually find an answer pretty damn quick on the Wiki.
Then, if I want to know more then just the basics of what it is, I look to the canon sources. Most times, however, I just need to know the 'what' of it, to help put it into perspective of whatever little project I'm working on ATM. I use ALL Wikis that way, and find them extremely useful just for giving lists of further references to continue my studies.
Its like the difference between reading a piece of literature, and studying Cliff's Notes - its the 'fast & dirty' answer.  |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Eli the Tanner
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
149 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2012 : 04:01:49
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Hello there fellow scribes of the Keep,
It's been a healthy 4 years since the last gasps of discussion on the wiki ended here and I was wondering what you all thought now that the wiki has had a lot more time to expand and refine itself.
I've been contributing in carefully targeted doses, every so often, over the last 3 years and the process of getting stuck in has continually deepened my admiration of the sheer size and complexity of the Realms. It has often felt like there is only a small band (maybe a score or so) of us dedicated wiki-smiths tinkering and polishing the vast store of lore into a reliable format....definately gives an insight into what the true scribes of Candlekeep must go through.
I guess this is partly a test-the-water post and partly a humble request for perhaps at enticing some more scholars to the cause. The lore is ever-growing and I've found the potential for the wiki to be a edition-proof repository means the more help the better!
What say ye? scribes, readers, and lore-wardens all! |
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Aldrick
Senior Scribe
909 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2012 : 22:54:35
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I've always found the FR Wiki extremely helpful. One of the best aspects of it is how it references the source material. More often than not when I'm attempting to look something up I turn to the Wiki first. I may or may not scan what is written, but instead check the references.
This allows me to locate what I'm looking for instantly. Almost always it'll reference the exact pages as well. Often times it will reference minor mentions in other books, or online articles at the WotC site that I didn't know about.
I rarely use the FR Wiki by itself; almost always I'm using both the Wiki and the source books together. So, in my mind, the Wiki is an invaluable source for anyone seriously interested in Realms Lore - there is just too much of it to keep it in our heads. That's what makes the Wiki useful. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 05:50:50
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I think a comprehensive locked-down FR Wiki would be brilliant. The issue is who has the man hours to devote to it? Better men than me, that's for sure. I struggle to keep up with my own haphazard, narrower in focus Realmslore collecting/collating efforts.
-- George Krashos
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 06:26:13
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It should be a group effort, hosted by some site dedicated just to realmslore...
If only such a site existed. |
"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 07:40:41
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I have noticed it grow and develop over the years. One of my favorite things to do with my Kindle Fire is to do a search for a person or a place in a novel I am reading. I always get sent to the FR wiki and it usually has the info I need. I couldn't say that a few years ago.
As for taking the time to edit. It really is a collective effort and isn't designed to rely on just one person. So even the smallest contribution adds up over time.
So cheers to all of you who have been contributing. It hasn't gone unnoticed. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 13:50:25
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As has been stated, I find the wiki a good place to search for references. I vaguely recall a few instances where what was written in the wiki didn't match my reading and of the source material, but I did see how the wiki author came to the conclusion they did.
Overall, the Wiki has been a great starting point for several research projects, but ultimately I fact check against what I find here at the keep for semantic confusion. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
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Lord Bane
Senior Scribe
Germany
479 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 16:34:17
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The Wiki can be a quick referance place but then i double check with source books if possible.
What i dislike about the Wiki is the messup between 4e and 3e articles as sources. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 20:40:53
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Originally posted by Lord Bane
The Wiki can be a quick referance place but then i double check with source books if possible.
What i dislike about the Wiki is the messup between 4e and 3e articles as sources.
Yes. An annoyance I have is the occasional article gets re-written to only be relevant to 4E. It is annoying when a well-written (references, detailed explanation) 3E or prior article is overwritten with a much shorter article that essentially says, "this area used to be a developed nation, locale, or whatever, but it's been nuked to make a different sandbox to play in."
I'll admit, I usually don't check back to see if that's something they try and revert or fix, but it does make me go grr. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
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fw190a8
Acolyte
United Kingdom
32 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 21:27:21
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It is annoying when a well-written (references, detailed explanation) 3E or prior article is overwritten with a much shorter article that essentially says, "this area used to be a developed nation, locale, or whatever, but it's been nuked to make a different sandbox to play in."
If you see any articles like this, please put something on my talk page at http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Fw190a8 (or any other regular editor) and it will get sorted.
The wiki policy is pretty clear in that it favours no specific edition, and just aims to collect and reference lore from canon Realms sources. |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
769 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 22:06:04
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| That's disheartening to read. Why wouldn't someone just append a 4E update to the article? Unless they are just trying to be a jerk. |
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1272 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2012 : 23:51:47
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Originally posted by fw190a8
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It is annoying when a well-written (references, detailed explanation) 3E or prior article is overwritten with a much shorter article that essentially says, "this area used to be a developed nation, locale, or whatever, but it's been nuked to make a different sandbox to play in."
If you see any articles like this, please put something on my talk page at http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Fw190a8 (or any other regular editor) and it will get sorted.
The wiki policy is pretty clear in that it favours no specific edition, and just aims to collect and reference lore from canon Realms sources.
Will do. Sorry I don't have a specific instance to point you to, I'm bad about taking notes on such things. But if I notice it again, I will. |
- Delwa Aunglor
I am off to slay yon refrigerator and spoil it's horde. Go for the cheese, Boo!
"The Realms change; seldom at the speed desired of those who strive, but far too quickly for those who resist." - The Simbul, taken from the Forgotten Realms Campaign Conspectus |
Edited by - Delwa on 26 Sep 2012 23:53:34 |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 27 Sep 2012 : 01:43:38
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I think a comprehensive locked-down FR Wiki would be brilliant. The issue is who has the man hours to devote to it? Better men than me, that's for sure. I struggle to keep up with my own haphazard, narrower in focus Realmslore collecting/collating efforts.
-- George Krashos
That's largely my own take as well.
I'd love to have time to commit to a fully-stocked Wiki of Realmslore, but I'm just having so much trouble trying to keep up with my own projects, that I fear my dedication to the Wiki would be frustratingly less than absolute. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
9933 Posts |
Posted - 27 Sep 2012 : 01:49:43
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I find the Wiki helpful...to a certain degree. When I have time, I make sure to contribute as much as I can (which may not be that much) on certain areas of interest, or specialty, if you will. |
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Thauranil
Master of Realmslore
India
1591 Posts |
Posted - 27 Sep 2012 : 16:39:26
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| Its very true that the Wiki is useful, if unfortunately lacking in certain aspects of Forgotten realms lore. |
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Eli the Tanner
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
149 Posts |
Posted - 27 Sep 2012 : 23:25:38
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Originally posted by Thauranil
Its very true that the Wiki is useful, if unfortunately lacking in certain aspects of Forgotten realms lore.
It is a mighty task indeed, as Sage and Krashos have attested to, which is where my ulterior motive for casting raise dead on this scroll comes in. I'm hoping those who see the project's worth might decide to stroll by every now and again...even if only to straigten books and dot some i's.
There are many articles (esoteric and iconic) that need the scholarly touch of those here in Candlekeep. Personally I just like the feeling of helping with a task much bigger than myself, as often I think maybe my contributions here are not enough. |
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