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Exploit
Acolyte
Canada
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 Posted - 15 Nov 2006 : 05:08:45
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I'm in between sessions right now and my PC is having a "moral" dilemma problem that I was looking to get other people's opinions on.
The Situation:
My NE Velsharoon cleric has been charmed by a succubus who is bound to a room until someone of good alignment frees her or attacks her. Furthermore the succubus has taken one of my bodyguards as a prisoner and will not release him until my cleric has freed her. My cleric has already sacrificed all of the known good characters in the dungeon and its a long way back to town. (Leaving my raunchy bodyguard with the succubus for any period of time is likely to result in several level losses for him.)
Proposed Solution:
Use summon monster 1 spell to summon up a Celestial Dog (LG) to attack the succubus thus triggering her release.
Questions:
1) I have been unable to find any rule which prevents an evil cleric from using the summon monster spell to summon a good creature. If someone knows of such a rule could they please give me a reference?
2) Summoning a good creature is casting a Good spell and as such may pose a threat to my alignment. Given that the end goal is evil (releasing a succubus) how serious of a sin do people consider this to be for a NE cleric? Should my cleric lose his spells until he gets an atonement spell?
3) Given that Velsharoon is living on a plane with Mystra and appears to be willing to ally with anyone to achieve his ends, does that mitigate any potential sin that my cleric would be comitting?
Thanks for any comments,
Exploit
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 : 09:32:54
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We have a house rule that you can summon monsters within one alignment step of your own
edit: just out of interest why does it have to be a celestial dog? |
Edited by - Kaladorm on 15 Nov 2006 09:50:36 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 : 11:17:18
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I'd not worry about the cleric's alignment. An evil deity isn't going to sweat it if a cleric does a single good act, especially if the overall goal is evil. There's nothing preventing evil folks from doing good acts occasionally.
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 : 11:49:49
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| Summon celestial dog is a spell of good descriptor, a cleric cannot cast spells opposed to his alignment or his own deity (this option is for FR), so you cannot cast the spell (see PHB pg. 33, and summon monster spell) |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 : 12:49:32
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Chaotic, Evil, Good, and Lawful Spells
A cleric can’t cast spells of an alignment opposed to his own or his deity’s (if he has one). Spells associated with particular alignments are indicated by the chaos, evil, good, and law descriptors in their spell descriptions.
It looks like have to go back to town or find another good NPC closer. |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 : 17:05:01
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| I have a little smart solution, to break theis charm. Creat some undeads, and order them to folow this succubus around, make them nasy and stinky. When the succubus wants to get rid of them (if she attack them) You got a chance of a new save. Because as i see it undead are holy creatures to Velsharoon. Just an idea. |
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Edited by - Victor_ograygor on 15 Nov 2006 17:05:59 |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 : 17:43:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor
I have a little smart solution, to break theis charm. Creat some undeads, and order them to folow this succubus around, make them nasy and stinky. When the succubus wants to get rid of them (if she attack them) You got a chance of a new save. Because as i see it undead are holy creatures to Velsharoon. Just an idea.
Will not work
1) A charmed character would not do something to offend new friend.
2) The charmer or its allies must attack the charmed traget to break spell. There is no retry under 3.5 rules.
The PC either has to find a good character or while searching wait for spell effect to wear off. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon |
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Velsharoon cleric summoning good to do evil?
