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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  16:42:26  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Hey all!
I am trying to start an adventure that is designed to get players new to forgotten realms. We have to put a lot of realms flavor into we decided. The problem is we don't really know for sure what it is about the realms that makes it our favorite. A similar thread asked why you love the realms. The consensus was because it is so developed and detailed. But beyond that... what do you think really makes the realms what it is???


I'm keeping this as a poll so later we have that option if we get enough points to vote on.


Results:
so ignore this   [0%] 0 votes
and this... i just have to fill these two answers before I''''m allowed to post   [0%] 0 votes


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Edited by - Beirnadri Magranth on 10 Nov 2006 19:42:43

Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  16:46:21  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally, the realms is defined by portals. In no other campaign setting are magical gateways so extensively used as this. Also the grey area of alignment. The evil characters have good tendencies and the good characters will consort with enemies in order to get the job done. Take Khelben for example as well as Semmemmon.

"You came here to be a martyr in a great big bang of glory... instead you will die with a whimper."
::moussaoui tries to interrupt::
"You will never get a chance to speak again and that's an appropriate ending."

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WalkerNinja
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  16:56:48  Show Profile Send WalkerNinja a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For me, portals as always been kind of a back-drop. Maybe its because my players never took an interest in them.

Realms flavor tastes like... the little stories. Yes, the FR is huge, but the stories that I remember are small scale and personal. You can see the setting as bigger, and you feel like a just a little part of it. We've never sat on thrones, but in our little stories, we feel like them.

A band of crusty retired adventurers swapping tales in an inn inspiring the youth by accident.

A farm-girl's first visit to Waterdeep, and the revelation of the magic within her.

An idealistic group of young folks struggling for survial in the Moonsea.

That's FR.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  17:01:10  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In part, its that there is always something going on in the world. The world keeps moving, even if you aren't part of each story that is going on. You may be looking for a Zhentarim agent in an Inn, but there are Harpers, Moonstars, Thayans, etc. already in the Inn keeping an eye on the agent. You may not know they are all there, or any of them are, but once you know the setting, you know that power groups rarely operate in a vacuum.
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MerrikCale
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  18:29:20  Show Profile  Visit MerrikCale's Homepage Send MerrikCale a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Magic. Faerun is all about magic



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Njord
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  20:23:55  Show Profile  Visit Njord's Homepage Send Njord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love the cultures and languages. Some mirror ours and some are totally different. You get the sense that it is a world that has developed over time and not just, "these things are here because they are here."
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Dhomal
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  20:29:24  Show Profile Send Dhomal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello-

I have to agree with KEJR on this one. :) *again, it seems we have similar outlooks on much that is Realmsian!*

The fact, that to me at least - the Realms is ALIVE! NOt only do power groups not act in a vacuum - but People dont. Farmers tend their crops - and take the fruits of their labor to the town/city to sell. All while the PCs are battling foes that threaten the farmer - either with or without the farmer's knowledge. The PCs make choices - and by their choices - change how the future will evolve. Some 'quests' or 'adventures' may not be picked up by the PCs. Does someone else 'do' them - or does the threat or issue compound itself and get bigger...

The Realms is - a Living, Breathing entity that grows and changes with time. *That* is what is the signature flavor of thae Realms for me. Or perhaps its Vanilla. I Like vanilla. :) (*Smell that aroma?*)

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Romaal
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Posted - 10 Nov 2006 :  21:02:13  Show Profile Send Romaal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Like Merrik already said, the magic is the greatest thing the Realms got. There's no other campaign world with such a massive amount of magical items, monsters and dungeons. And I likes this a lot, because it doesn't lack of fluff.
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Gellion
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 :  03:36:53  Show Profile  Visit Gellion's Homepage Send Gellion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Realms is to me about adventure. Be it political intrigue or delving ancient ruins. The Forgotten Realms are all about exploring new places and finding ancient magic under every stone.

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Sanishiver
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 :  07:49:46  Show Profile  Visit Sanishiver's Homepage Send Sanishiver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Right now in my Realms Campaign it's about the clash of nations and city states and the hard choices (characters) have to make while they're caught up in the events swirling around them.

I think Realmslore is best brought about in player's minds when they are put in the (fun) position of having to choose what's best in a situation. Such as do they aid surface drow who are fleeing just-freed from Myth Drannor devils? And if they do, are they willing to vouch/stand along side the drow if said drow seek shelter in places like Shadowdale?

By first having a campaign in Shadowdale (for instance) and having the players interact/battle reclusive surface drown, a DM can set up a status quo in the players minds, then turn that status quo on its head and put the choice of what to do in the players hands.

My take, at any rate.

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Delzounblood
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 :  13:33:38  Show Profile Send Delzounblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with a lot of others on this scroll.

Portals
Magic

But I would like to add

DRAGONS after all this is a Dungeons & Dragons game! BUT a low level adventure is not ideal for walking into a dragons lair, But surely we could bring something Draconic into this, Dragon magic or magic items.


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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 :  16:17:30  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While the magic is important, I think the most important aspect of Realms flavor is the fact that at any given time, there's 8000 different stories and plots going on, and that many of them are interconnected. Also, as Steven Schend once stated, everything and everyone has a backstory.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 :  21:11:04  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

While the magic is important, I think the most important aspect of Realms flavor is the fact that at any given time, there's 8000 different stories and plots going on, and that many of them are interconnected. Also, as Steven Schend once stated, everything and everyone has a backstory.



Basically Wooly said what I was trying to in a manner that makes a lot more sense . . .
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Faraer
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 :  21:18:03  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The immediate texture of the Realms is wonderfully summarized in the introductory piece now heading The Best of the Realms, Book II: The Stories of Ed Greenwood.

To make that play, you have to DM in a particular way, to support the experience of something real beyond each hill if you were to go there. Players and DM have to be fairly free of inhibitions in playing characters and making stuff up.

Underneath that, what I find most important is the web of love, friendship, memory, history and cause.

Edited by - Faraer on 11 Nov 2006 21:18:34
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 11 Nov 2006 :  23:41:22  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A lot of great answers here. I am definitely a person who feels that the smaller-scale, personal stories in the Realms are often the best.

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