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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
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 Posted - 01 Nov 2006 : 21:00:10
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I just finished re-reading the year of Rogue Dragons series and it got me thinking... With all of the dragons killed during Sammaster's Rage wouldn't there be a large number of dragon troves hidden away unclaimed? With a dragon's proclivity towards trapping and hiding there lairs it might make for some interesting, quick dungeon crawls...
Now what if a clever and bold young copper dragon got the same idea? Said Copper starts tracking down the hidden hoards of evil dragos that got killed, using his illusion abilities to gather information in towns and even from other dragons, all cloaked in illusion. Perhaps he even hires the PC's to assist him, all in the intersts of quickly building his own hoard with minimum effort and danger to himself. Sound plausible? Let me know what you think...
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EytanBernstein
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 01 Nov 2006 : 21:30:47
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Originally posted by ShadowJack
I just finished re-reading the year of Rogue Dragons series and it got me thinking... With all of the dragons killed during Sammaster's Rage wouldn't there be a large number of dragon troves hidden away unclaimed? With a dragon's proclivity towards trapping and hiding there lairs it might make for some interesting, quick dungeon crawls...
Now what if a clever and bold young copper dragon got the same idea? Said Copper starts tracking down the hidden hoards of evil dragos that got killed, using his illusion abilities to gather information in towns and even from other dragons, all cloaked in illusion. Perhaps he even hires the PC's to assist him, all in the intersts of quickly building his own hoard with minimum effort and danger to himself. Sound plausible? Let me know what you think...
That sort of thing is happening in droves. Most likely candidates would be less powerful dragons and drakes who want more power quickly after their more powerful cousins died. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 01 Nov 2006 : 21:43:35
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I'd fully expect surviving dragons to be out there, grabbing as many unprotected hordes as they can -- or having servants/minions/followers/agents/unwitting dupes doing it for them.
To add to your idea, have the copper send the PCs after an unprotected horde -- and then they have to contend with someone else who has the same idea. Or maybe he's using the PCs as a distraction, as he goes in to grab it himself...  |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 01 Nov 2006 21:45:07 |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 01 Nov 2006 : 22:12:18
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| and don't forget the Cult of the Dragons is always on the look out for unprotected hoards...to give to their dracoliches |
Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
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Silvanus79
Seeker
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Posted - 01 Nov 2006 : 22:29:52
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Not to mention the Zhents, Red Wizards after the magic and money, and even a few rival "good" organizations. It's like the California Gold Rush all over again! Oodles of campaign ideas there!
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 01 Nov 2006 : 22:31:18
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Originally posted by Silvanus79
Not to mention the Zhents, Red Wizards after the magic and money, and even a few rival "good" organizations. It's like the California Gold Rush all over again! Oodles of campaign ideas there!
(I always wanted to use the word "oodles" in a post! )
I agree, but I think the Cult actually have a "branch" always on the lookout for lost/abandoned/helpless hoards... |
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- High Mage of the Arcane Assembly
- Lore Keeper of the Vault of Ancestors
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Nov 2006 : 12:31:21
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| Thanks all for the ideas. Thank you Eytan for the confirmation. Wooly, as always you frighten me with your devious, fuzzy brain. Kalin and Silvanus, I never thought about all the powerful groups in the Realms that would attempt to increase their wealth and power by grabbing unclaimed dragon troves. Of course the Cult of the Dragon is in a unique position to do this, they would have more info on evil dragons and the location of their lairs than anyone. The other power groups would be likely as well. How much forgotten lore and ancient secrets do you suppose would be in the treasures of older dragons? What kind of secrets do you suppose a dragon like Malazan kept in her lair. What I am saying is, would recovery of lost and ancient lore be a draw to some groups to get their hands on unclaimed hoards? Not so much magic items as old records, maybe spells, maps showing ancient kingdoms, that kind of thing... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 02 Nov 2006 : 15:33:50
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Originally posted by ShadowJack
What I am saying is, would recovery of lost and ancient lore be a draw to some groups to get their hands on unclaimed hoards? Not so much magic items as old records, maybe spells, maps showing ancient kingdoms, that kind of thing...
Certainly, if it was known or suspected that the dragon held such material. For example, if a dragon had items in his hoard known to date back to Netheril, imagine everyone trying to get there first... The Shades would claim it as their heritage, and just about every power group (particularly magic-heavy ones like the Zhents, Arcane Brotherhood, the Red Wizards of Wal-Mart, the Twisted Rune, etc) would try to claim it for themselves, either to use it or to deny it to enemies (the latter could be the motivation for good groups like the Harpers or Tel'Teukiira). Various individuals, including mages, historians, and other dragons would be doing the same thing, thus complicating the efforts of the various groups... Plus, various parties could simply use the struggle to their advantage, setting groups against each other to either weaken them or make it possible for other players to benefit... And undoubtedly, anyone involved in this mess could be an agent (perhaps unwittingly) for one or more of the other parties...
There is simply way too much potential here! Straight combat, layers of intrigue, a mixture of the two... You can run with this in so many different directions, and for so long... |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 02 Nov 2006 : 15:56:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by ShadowJack
What I am saying is, would recovery of lost and ancient lore be a draw to some groups to get their hands on unclaimed hoards? Not so much magic items as old records, maybe spells, maps showing ancient kingdoms, that kind of thing...
Certainly, if it was known or suspected that the dragon held such material.
like that blue dragon Iymrith in the City of Spires in the Frozen Sea of Anauroch that has been plundering netherese and sarukh ruins for her own power?  |
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
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350 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2006 : 19:56:07
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| Very good example, Kalin! Great point. |
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VonRaventheDaring
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Nov 2006 : 14:48:12
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| Now while the cult is in a good position to grab those hordes its also weak as most of its minnions of note that were killed by evil dragons when they discoved the rage was over, so that is a possiblity as well not to mention that those hordes are probabbly well protected and if you find one it will be a freefor all with all the interested parties going for them at the same time. |
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
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350 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2006 : 15:29:36
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* Spoilers * Spoilers * Spoilers *
It is very sadistic of me, but I loved that part of the Ruin, where the evil dragons take their disappointment/anger out on the Cultists... I REALLY do not like the Cult of the Dragon. |
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Readily available Dragon-hoards?
