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Dargoth
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 Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 05:08:04
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Apparently the latest Dungeon has a preview from FCII which includes a Pleasure Devil
any ideas on what a Pleasure devil is? Is it something old or something Wizards created for FCII?
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Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 07:58:58
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| It must be something new, I cant ever remember seeing the term being used for any creature; demon or devil. |
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Torkwaret
Seeker
Poland
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 09:27:56
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It's a "sneak peek" from Fiendish Codex II  |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 10:36:31
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Originally posted by Torkwaret
It's a "sneak peek" from Fiendish Codex II
Yeah but Im trying to figure out if a Pleasure Devil is prexisting creature or whether it something new theyve created for FC2 |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 10:55:33
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| A devil version of a succubus? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 12:10:54
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
A devil version of a succubus?
Isnt that an Erinyes? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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LordNull
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 14:01:06
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Pleasure devils are an enhanced form of erinyes, specialists in the arts of seduction and corruption." . Dungeon 140 also has the hellfire engine both are in Fiendish Codex 2: Tyrants of the Nine Hells
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 14:21:13
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ewww...when Hordes of the Abyss came out it gave a succubi queen and a "super succubus"..and now Tyrants of the Nine Hells will have a "super erinyes"
I hate to see what they are planning for the "super pleasure/sexy" yugoloth/daemon NE counterpart
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 15:29:07
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Originally posted by LordNull
Pleasure devils are an enhanced form of erinyes, specialists in the arts of seduction and corruption." . Dungeon 140 also has the hellfire engine both are in Fiendish Codex 2: Tyrants of the Nine Hells
How are they different from regular erinyes? |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 15:58:43
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| Would need to see write up, however posible answers include Higher Cha, more spell-like abilities to suduce control posible targets, more HD, perhaps enhanced imunities, etc. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 17:06:05
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
A devil version of a succubus?
Isnt that an Erinyes?
Only problem I have with this is in 3E, especially 3.5E they changed Erinyes to be more of punishment dealers.
Taking a look at them compared to a Succubus, they are very much more combat oriented. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 17:52:18
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In a moment of "Wooly" inspiration here, I first wonder if this topic has something related to THO... not exactly for the "devil" part.
Ahem.
Anyway, I´m very interested in the FC II - the awesome quality of the first book gained my atention. And, as a DM with a preference to introduce Grazz´t in my plots, the seductive succubus / and erinyes always have a chance to make the life of my players a little more miserable.
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 19:54:55
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Originally posted by warlockco
Only problem I have with this is in 3E, especially 3.5E they changed Erinyes to be more of punishment dealers.
Taking a look at them compared to a Succubus, they are very much more combat oriented.
I could be wrong but...
I think if you look up the real world inspiration of the Erinyes you'll see they are some sort of greek demon/monster related to the Furies I think...so the punishment dealer image I think is the approiate one... |
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LordNull
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 04 Oct 2006 : 22:05:40
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| I haven't checked out dungeon 140 yet. Also the name Erinyes comes from the name Erinys a chthonic goddess of wrath in Greek mythology. She was consort to Poseidon and she engendered all horses. Her collective form was the three Erinyes also know as the furies. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2006 : 00:25:38
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Originally posted by kalin agrivar
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Originally posted by warlockco
Only problem I have with this is in 3E, especially 3.5E they changed Erinyes to be more of punishment dealers.
Taking a look at them compared to a Succubus, they are very much more combat oriented.
I could be wrong but...
I think if you look up the real world inspiration of the Erinyes you'll see they are some sort of greek demon/monster related to the Furies I think...so the punishment dealer image I think is the approiate one...
Yes, that is where the Greek origin is from.
But back in 1E and 2E they were more seducers, now they are "screeching harpies" |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2006 : 00:26:41
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
In a moment of "Wooly" inspiration here, I first wonder if this topic has something related to THO... not exactly for the "devil" part.
Ahem.
Anyway, I´m very interested in the FC II - the awesome quality of the first book gained my atention. And, as a DM with a preference to introduce Grazz´t in my plots, the seductive succubus / and erinyes always have a chance to make the life of my players a little more miserable.
Chosen of Moradin, chief engineer of the construction of the temple of the Furry God of Mischief in Waterdeep.
Only problem I had with Hordes of the Abyss, was they didn't give ECLs for any of the fiends they introduced. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 05 Oct 2006 : 00:31:10
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by LordNull
Pleasure devils are an enhanced form of erinyes, specialists in the arts of seduction and corruption." . Dungeon 140 also has the hellfire engine both are in Fiendish Codex 2: Tyrants of the Nine Hells
How are they different from regular erinyes?
They have Skill Focus (Blow Your Mind) maxed out. 
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 05 Oct 2006 : 01:01:35
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| I was waiting for someone to say Pleasure devils are Erinyes with Breast enhancements...... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 05 Oct 2006 : 01:50:23
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Originally posted by The Sage
Which would likely already be a consideration for an erinyes, given their polymorph self ability.
lol like that scene from T3!  |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2006 : 08:01:34
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The three Erinyes, or Furies (Alecto, Megaera, and Tisiphone), were born from the blood of Kronos' castration of Uranos. They were seen as spirits of vengeance, especially when it came to crimes within the family. I can see them serving nicely as servants of Hoar, as they in many ways represents the punishment one can not escape no matter what position one holds or what one gets away with among men.
I have always wondered why they were made into tempters of man in the older editions. They are more a form of divine servants than demons (of the summonable kind at least) originally, but the role as tempters of human kind is taking it a bit far. Although I seem to remember there being some myths about them tempting mortals into hatred and crimes also. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 07 Oct 2006 : 00:55:19
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| I don't typically get Dungeon. Which Dungeon was this? |
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Ardashir
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 17:54:26
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I hate to see what they are planning for the "super pleasure/sexy" yugoloth/daemon NE counterpart
That would be Shemeska the Marauder, of course! ;) |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 15 Oct 2006 : 15:03:46
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by The Sage
Which would likely already be a consideration for an erinyes, given their polymorph self ability.
lol like that scene from T3!
They're an illusion! They're fake!
Real is where it's at.  Even an erinyes should appreciate that fact.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 15 Oct 2006 : 16:08:09
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It's probably best I don't say anything in reply to that! 
-- Bringing us somewhat back on topic... I'm hoping at some point, soon, we're going to learn whether those rumors over at EN World about a possible third Fiendish Codex book featuring the yugoloths, are true or not. |
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Lady Kazandra
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Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 16:16:21
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Originally posted by The Sage
It's probably best I don't say anything in reply to that!
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-- Bringing us somewhat back on topic... I'm hoping at some point, soon, we're going to learn whether those rumors over at EN World about a possible third Fiendish Codex book featuring the yugoloths, are true or not.
If this is true, does that mean the gehreleths may also receive an update as well?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2006 : 16:37:54
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'd rather just see an update for the 'loths.
so would I...I felt even in 2E Planescape the Yugoloths/Daemons/NE fiends got the short end of the stick, compared to the Baatezu/Devils/LE fiends and Tanar'ri/Demons/CE fiends |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Oct 2006 : 15:34:48
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Originally posted by kalin agrivar
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'd rather just see an update for the 'loths.
so would I...I felt even in 2E Planescape the Yugoloths/Daemons/NE fiends got the short end of the stick, compared to the Baatezu/Devils/LE fiends and Tanar'ri/Demons/CE fiends
If you haven't already, you may want to check out the aforementioned Faces of Evil. It has a well detailed section on the 'loths.
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What on earth is a Pleasure Devil?
