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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  11:02:44  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
If there a comprehensive list of booze for the various regions in the Realms?

I'd like to introduce a variety of drinks etc, not the standard ale, mead, wine stuff...

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I don't know if there is a comprehensive list, but for what you're doing, start with Aurora's Whole Realms Catalog.

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Jorkens
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Ales, Spirits and Wines of the Realms By George Krashos, located in the Travelers notebooks in Alaundos library at the main site. There's also Ed's Realms versions of well known earth drinks, I think that's in the 2004 answers, but I am not sure.



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Ergdusch
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Posted - 21 Sep 2006 :  12:56:43  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/ales.htm

This is the link to Jorkens reference.

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Jorkens
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Ha, found it! 06 march 2004 Ed gave Dargoth an extensive answer about drinks in the realms.

P.S., Thanks Ergdusch.
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Kalin Agrivar
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I would suggest Aurora's Whole Realms Catalog as the best published source...and then run through the Volo Guides for "inhouse" beverages

but shouldn't a dwarf already have extensive knowledge on booze?

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Ergdusch
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Again, 'cause I have the time, I started rummaged through the pages to find what Jorkens other reference is about. For convenience i will post Ed's answer for everyone quick to find. However, all credits to Jorkens. (How do you remember a post from 2 years ago!?)

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi, Dargoth. Well, here’s the best I can do right now, re. answers to these:
1. I’ve created extensive lists of drinkables, recipes, and suchlike for inns, but always avoided doing direct real-world equivalents, especially for “mixed drinks” or “cocktails.” However, you will find many notations in my published writings along the lines of ‘firewine tastes somewhat like a cross between RealWorldA and RealWorldB.’
To help you with this specific query, however, here are the general guidelines: in the warmer climes (ending, as one goes northwards, at about Amn), drinks may sometimes be blended for taste reasons (or mixed with fresh fruit juices), but are almost never deliberately made stronger by combining one alcoholic drinkable with another.
However, from Westgate northwards, and Beregost northwards on the Sword Coast, most inns and taverns serve fortified drinkables. These are of two sorts: the booze that ‘the house’ adulterates habitually and ‘everybody knows about,’ and mixed drinks that are done on the spot, at the request of a patron or upon a patron accepting a clear offer of “warming” a drink.
The first sort of “warmed” drinks include zzar and what’s called “deep ale” or “fire ale” (beer to which a grain-based spirit has been added). These may be watered to make them go farther if the taste is harsh (and of course to save the establishment some coins), and also often fortified with distilled spirits (usually potato-based, in other words close to what we’d call vodka: essentially clear, colorless, and tasteless).
The second sort of “warmed” drinks only approach the elaborate recipes of our real-world cocktails in places like Waterdeep, Silverymoon, Luskan, Neverwinter, Sembia, Westgate, and the coastal ports of the Dragonreach. Usually they’re simple “warm your wine by stirring in a little throatslake, goodsir?” concoctions (“throatslake” being the generic term for a distilled spirit such as gin, bourbon, vodka, whiskey, et al). If the throatslake has a strong taste that clashes with the wine, the result can be, well, horrible. :}
Years back, one of my players spent a gaming weekend at our cottage serving us all various cocktails and giving them Realms names, so I can give you here what I can remember of her admittedly short list (of course, you’d have to rename all the ingredients to make them fit the Realms, too, and I’ve never bothered):
Angel’s Kiss: Tansar’s Dance
Buck’s Fizz: Marthoun’s Flagon
Cherry Sling: Dragondown
Daiquiri: Ladydagger
Gimlet: Bright Blade
Margarita (Strawberry): Wyvernblood
Mint Julep: Sea Ward Slake
Pina Colada: Snowfire
Port and Starboard: Nightfire
Rickey (Gin): Lightning Bolt
Rob Roy: Battle Banner
Rusty Nail: Merchants’ Tears
Rum Eggnog: Harbour Foam
Stone Fence: Stag At Bay
Tequila Sunrise: Caravan Lantern
I accept NO responsibility for what happens if these are used in play sessions. * My * players are more than crazed enough without alcoholic aid.

So endeth the words of Ed. The Hooded One here, with just one additional comment: “My players are more than crazed enough without alcoholic aid” is putting it mildly. He may recall my once dissolving chocolates into the whiskey after the Bailey’s ran out. :} None of us are drinkers these days, I hasten to inform the world, but we were younger then, and Ed’s cottage sessions tended to be in very hot weather, and two of us DID work in breweries one year, and had our own microbrewery the next year. Their “best bitters” was about 12 percent alcohol, I believe (none of your ‘water in a can’ American light stuff). In fact, I remember the windowsill of the gaming cottage displaying a neat row of about twenty 1-litre plastic empties after a long, hard day of gaming. :}


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The Sage
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I'll note however that while George's listing is comprehensive, it doesn't include every beverage or drink referenced in most relevant Realmslore sources. For example, Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark lists several popular liquors, ales, and assorted beverages which feature in both taverns in the Underdark and in the Realms Above.

As well, we have numerous novel references to select drinks served in taverns and inns across the Realms and the occasional mentions in assorted 1e/2e/3e FR sourcebooks (like those I referred to above in DDGttU) other than the Volo's Guides and Aurora's Whole Realms Catalogue.

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George had reposted his list on another thread (which one escapes me at the moment), and he said that it was one he made for the mailing list a few years ago.
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel

George had reposted his list on another thread (which one escapes me at the moment), and he said that it was one he made for the mailing list a few years ago.
~Kes

From George -

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Kuje
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It's also in my 2006 replies. :) However, it hasn't been coded for html yet, so use the .DOC version.

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Ergdusch
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A drink not on Georges list of Ales, Spirits and Wines of the Realms:

Jhuild - a fiery drink, served in flagon, common in the region of Rashaman; reference in Realms of Magic ('Thieves Reward'), p. 193.

Also two drinks found on his list are also mentioned in Elaine Cunninghams novel Elfshadow:

Zzar - waterdhavian orange liquid with destinctive almond taste; Elfshadow p. 114
Elverquisst - ruby-coloured utterly-smooth liquor magically destilled from sunshine and rare summer fruits; Elfshadow, p. 122 et seq.

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Delzounblood
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Trust a dwarf to ask about beer!!!!

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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 13 Mar 2008 :  15:25:02  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delzounblood

Trust a dwarf to ask about beer!!!!

Welldone Mace



lol I started this thread almost 16 months ago...but, yea, I need to ask about beverages...especially now since I sell 'em IRL

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 24 Jun 2008 :  08:52:30  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Delzounblood

Trust a dwarf to ask about beer!!!!



Now now, than this next answer I found among Eds replies will quench some thurst of knowledge. Seriously, I thought this answer of Ed of hte Greenwoods belonged here if anywhere else:

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One on 24 June 2008:


Ed replies to a Berdusk query by Kuje:
“I can't think of anything else at the moment that I need unless Ed wants to supply some fare/drinks that are typical to some of the ale houses?”

Answer:
"I’ll have to make this brief, and leave the food until next time. Okay, here we go:
“Small beer” is generally sneered at in Berdusk, because so much good beer is made locally.
The alehouses serve “red” (orange-red, fiery [peppery] hard cider), a fiery, black, almost licorice-tasting smoky stout known as “Old Dark,” and a lot of light ales.
These ales, known as “goldens,” are wheat beers sweetened with honey and flavored with all manner of local berries. They include:

* Annasker: named for the family who first made it, a sparkling, pinkish pale ale that tastes sweet but tart (like lemonade mixed with several berry juices)

* Belbuck: yes, a halfling-brewed beer, and by far the most popular: sweet, translucent green [yes!] because it’s full of fermented herbs that make it very strong [alcoholic] and yet minty [like spearmint, it clears other tastes, and chills the throat like menthol]; deceptive, so that many a traveler has drunk deeply before feeling the effects, and being unable to rise and walk across a taproom unaided

* Darndarr: a “sandy” or “nutty” flavoured beer, that goes silkily well with both seared meats and fish. Usually served by the jug (small earthenware jugs that collapse into powder if flung ot swung against something hard, making these preferred “drench people” missiles in pranks), this ale keeps very well, even out in the sun, and so many locals have crocks and kegs of it around the house for casual drinking and for use as a marinade or to “jug” perishables in, for longer keeping

* Helmatoss: a sweet, oily, clear pale ale that sits heavily on the stomach. Some say it was named for the long-dead tavernkeeper Alanra Helmatoss, others say its name comes from the violent vomiting it causes in many who over-imbibe. It is known (Harpers have tested and proved this true) to neutralize many poisons and settle many raging acidic stomachs, and is definitely an acquired taste. Those who have acquired it often drink great amounts (where one large tankard will leave a first-timer spewing) and swear by it. Warning: highly flammable!

* Zeskorr: a dark brown pale ale that tastes of salt (and, some say, fish; others just say it tastes “strange”). Again, an acquired taste apt to upset the stomachs of the unwary, but deeply enjoyed by those who do like it.

The alehouses also serve a lot of wine, and many beers brought by caravan from all over Faerûn. More when I get back from my travels.
Faerûn Forever!"


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Posted - 01 Jul 2008 :  19:29:09  Show Profile  Visit Dracons's Homepage Send Dracons a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Few more of my own for my Forgotten Realms games.

Dragon's Breath: This strong fiery tasting beer is served Ice Cold. It so acidic that a special cup must be used. So potient that even dwarves stay away.

Orc's Blood: Another popular drink. Not as strong, and foul tasting. Its pitch black and as thick as tar, however it seems to increase people anger. (Treat as Greater Rage if Raging, or normal Rage if you don't have Rage) for a few minutes.

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How would you even be able to drink Dragon's Breath?

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acid and fire resisistence helps. Also, high fortitudes.

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