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Dargoth
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Posted - 16 Sep 2006 :  04:42:17  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Inspired by Knight errants thread I decided to have a crack at 4 Waterdeep organisations. This is the first one

Church of Selune

Symbol: Pair of female eyes surrounded by 7 silver stars
Background, goals and Dreams: See CoS and F&P
Members: See CoS
Type: Temple
Scale: 14 Continental
Affiliation score criteria:

Character has levels of the Silverstar or Knight of the Blue moon Prestige class +2

Character has taken the Initiate of Selune Feat +1

Character tithes to the Church of Selune +1/1000 gp donated

Character possesses an Artefact or relic sacred to Selune +1/10,000 gp value

Character slays a Dark moon monk, Nightcloak, Shadow weave user or cleric of Shar. (Foes CR must be equal to or greater than the characters level) +1/4 of the enemies CR

Character destroys a Sharran Temple or Stronghold +8

Character has an evil alignment -10

Characters serves in a party, which includes followers of Shar or Shadow weave users –10

Titles benefits and Duties:
Affiliation score:

3 or lower: Not affiliated or junior member

4-10 Lay Worshiper: The church of Selune is aware of you and takes note of your actions.

11-20 Servent of the Moon: Character may live within the Temple grounds without paying rent

21-29: Star of the Night: Character gets +1 on attack rolls when fighting followers of Shar. Followers of Shar know you are a member or friend to the church of Selune and get a +1 on damage rolls against you.

30 up Prior of Lunar: Character gets a +4 leadership score modifier with respect to the church of Selune. You are now a prominent member in the Church of Selune and the Sharrans have targeted you for regular assassination attempts. If you fail to uncover a plot each month with DC 30 Gather information check, then you must face a CR 12 Assassin (can be simplified: Make DC 15 Fort save or die.)

Executive powers: Crusade, Excommunicate, Raid

Tell me what you think

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KnightErrantJR
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I like it so far . . . any chance of throwing in titles for the ranks in the church (I don't have my copy of Faiths and Avatars handy, so I can't remember how many titles are listed in the book for this church)?
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Dargoth
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The Affiliation benfits can go to characters with non cleric classes so I choose not include the Cleric specfic titles


The other 3 groups Im looking at are

The Knights Samular
Shadow Thieves
Elaith Crime Syndicate

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I like it so far . . . any chance of throwing in titles for the ranks in the church (I don't have my copy of Faiths and Avatars handy, so I can't remember how many titles are listed in the book for this church)?

Excluding the standard title for novices (the Called), we have seven listed titles:- Touched, Enstarred, Moonbathed, Silverbrow, Lunar, Initiate, and High Initiate (these are in ascending order).



EDIT: Just saw Dargoth's post...

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Dargoth
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Posted - 16 Sep 2006 :  06:34:58  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok created some titles for the different Affiliation levels

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This is good.

I wonder though...might it be better for the DM simply to track this in the background, whilst hinting at how players can add to their reputation (read: affiliation score) by doing certain things....?

I guess my first reaction was: Players Abusing the System!

OTOH maybe not so bad. I can see lots of RP and in-character goal making by means of this. Makes me want to pick up the PHB II even more!

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Ergdusch
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This is very inspiring... must take a closer look at the Affiliations in general though, cause I never heard of them before. However, I do share Sanishiver'S point of view about tracking it more in the background...

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Dargoth
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The Benefits are weighted by the points they have to earn and "duties" they have to perform

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I use 5 affiliations in my campaign, with one of them custom-made (the others are identical to some of the sample orgs shown in the book, only renamed).

The one I made is for:

The Hands of Misfortune (loose Brandobaris brotherhood network operating in Faerun, mainly on maintaining food/weapon/magic item caches; mostly neutral in outlook, but some members' cruelty borders on the evil and maniacal)
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Dargoth
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No one crosses the Shadow Thieves and lives!!!!

Shadow Thieves

Symbol: Black Silk Domino mask impaled on a Stiletto
Background, goals and Dreams:
Members: See CoS and LoD
Type: Thieves Guild
Scale: 12 Multi-regional
Affiliation score criteria:
Character has taken the Shadow Thief of Amn Prestige class +2
Character has taken the Shadowwalker Prestige class +2
Characters patron deity is Mask or Bhaal. +1
Character is a cleric of Mask or Bhaal +2
Character performs a heist or swindle that nets the guild 1,000gp or more +1
Character performs a non-guild job criminal activity –15 on the second occasion an EL 12 Hit squad will be dispatched to kill or maim the character

Titles, benefits and Duties:
Affiliation score:

3 or lower: Not affiliated or junior member
4-10 Footpad Any criminal jobs you do are sanctioned and will not result in the non-guild job penalty
11-20 Know your turf: In Waterdeep, +4 insight bonus on hide and Move silently checks. Character must donate 10% of treasure to the Shadow Thieves
21-29 Made Man: You can fence up to 3,000gp of items for 90% each month and gain a +4 insight bonus on Intimidation checks against shop owners in Waterdeep, when demanding protection money.
30 or higher Dark Soul: The character can undergo a ritual that will give them the Shade Template (Character looses the last 5 class levels they’ve taken in exchange for the template)

Executive powers: Assassinate, Terrorise, Shadow War

Coments?

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Alisttair
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Posted - 18 Sep 2006 :  17:39:28  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like that Shadow Thief one. I don't see anything that I would change. I will probably use this info for one of my campaigns :)

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Posted - 18 Sep 2006 :  18:14:44  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed.

The Shadow Thief is perfect, IMHO, and I pretend use it to add more "spice" to the rogue sole adventures, in my campaign.

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KnightErrantJR
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That's great Dargoth. It could come in handy if I ever get back to the Skullport campaign I was running were one of the PCs was a member of the Shadow Thieves.
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sleyvas
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I haven't used affiliations yet, but it looked intriguing. For the Church of Selune one, I'd go with your option for the Gather Info check followed by a CR (8 + 1d8) encounter (randomize the CR somewhat). I wouldn't go with the secondary option, because having just the Fort save would mean the character is statistically going to die at some time in the next 2 years if they don't have a high gather information (you're gonna roll a 1 sometime), whereas if you're high enough level low CR encounters shouldn't be too much of a problem.
I really like the shadow thief one. It definitely keeps their flavor.

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Dargoth
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The Confluence

Symbol: Half the head of Steel Dragon and Half a human females head joined at the nose on a red shield
Background: See page 93 of Dragons of Faerun
Members: See page 94 of DoF
Type: Spy Ring
Scale: 7 City of Waterdeep
Affiliation score criteria

Character has the Druuth Slayer feat (CoV) +1
Character has the Dragonfriend feat (Dra) +1
Character has slain a creature with the Shape changer sub type. (Shape changers CR must be equal to or greater than the characters level) +1/4 of the enemies CR
Character speaks Draconic +2
Character has a Lawful Good or Lawful Neutral alignment +1
Character receives a +1 Affiliation score bonus for each mission they successfully complete for the Confluence

Tiles, benefits and duties
Affiliation score

3 or Lower: Non-Affiliated

4 to 10: Vyth Sauriv Character is given an amulet of Disguise (Functions as hat of Disguise).

Character must donate 5% of all treasure gained from quests that don’t directly further the goals of the Confluence to the group

11 to 20: Darastrix Gix Character gets +1 on attack rolls when fighting creatures with the Shape changer sub-type. Character must donate 10% of all treasure gained from quests that don’t directly further the goals of the Confluence to the group

21 to 29: Darastrix Thurirl A Sorcerer or Wizards with the Improved Familiar feat may take a Steel Dragon Wyrmling at 7th level. Ranger may change one of their favoured enemies to Shapechanger.

A Character with the Leadership feat who tries to attract a Steel or Song Dragon cohort is treated as if they have the Dragon Cohort Feat (See p104 of the Draconomicon)

Character must donate 15% of all treasure gained from quests that don’t directly further the goals of the Confluence to the group

30 up: Vyth Iejir The character can undergo a ritual that will give them the Half Steel Dragon template (Character looses the last 5 class levels they’ve taken in exchange for the template)

Character must donate 20% of all treasure gained from quests that don’t directly further the goals of the Confluence to the group

Executive powers: Inquisition, Research, and Shadow War

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MerrikCale
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Any write-up on the Church of Selune is appreciated.



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quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

Any write-up on the Church of Selune is appreciated.



If you're just looking for general information, check out Powers & Pantheons. It's got a write-up of the House of the Moon.

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And the various sourcebooks on Waterdeep.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

Any write-up on the Church of Selune is appreciated.



If you're just looking for general information, check out Powers & Pantheons. It's got a write-up of the House of the Moon.



I have Faiths & Pantheons. Is your reference better?



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Certainly -- it is the more detailed source.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Certainly -- it is the more detailed source.




Thanks I'll see if I can score a copy. What about Faiths & Avatars?



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Again, a definitely more detailed FR deity source when compared to 3e's Faiths & Pantheons.

F&A, P&P, and even Demihuman Deities usually make up what some of us here consider to be the "Big FR Deity Three" sourcebooks -- necessary for any scribes who wish for the most detailed lore regarding the gods and pantheons of the Realms.

I usually throw in the 2e books -- Monster Mythology and On Hallowed Ground as well -- to round out deity knowledge for the Realms.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Again, a definitely more detailed FR deity source when compared to 3e's Faiths & Pantheons.

F&A, P&P, and even Demihuman Deities usually make up what some of us here consider to be the "Big FR Deity Three" sourcebooks -- necessary for any scribes who wish for the most detailed lore regarding the gods and pantheons of the Realms.

I usually throw in the 2e books -- Monster Mythology and On Hallowed Ground as well -- to round out deity knowledge for the Realms.




What is the difference between F&A and Powers & Pantheons?



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Powers & Pantheons is the companion book to F&A, including a number of deities that weren't referenced in F&A as well as some additional deity lore.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Powers & Pantheons is the companion book to F&A, including a number of deities that weren't referenced in F&A as well as some additional deity lore.




Which would you get first? and which has more on Selune?



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In the interests of keeping this scroll on-topic... I'm taking the rest of this discussion with Merrik, to PMs.

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