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Calrond
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 05:16:41
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(The Yuan-ti lich that has the Crown of Horns in his possession)
I know he left his haunts in Skullport in 1370, but is it known/theorized where he went afterwards or where he may be now?
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 05:28:22
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Originally posted by Calrond
(The Yuan-ti lich that has the Crown of Horns in his possession)
I know he left his haunts in Skullport in 1370, but is it known/theorized where he went afterwards or where he may be now?
Calrond
He had it in his possesion, he doesn't any longer. However, I don't think it's been said where he went. |
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Calrond
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 05:35:09
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| Ooh, even better. Does anybody know where the Crown of Horns is? In the possession of a few Myrkulites in a cult? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 03 Sep 2006 : 05:45:51
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As I recall, Nhyris lost the Crown of Horns as noted in Serpent Kingdoms -- pg.143. Its current whereabouts and status are unknown.
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Sep 2006 : 16:47:30
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| the only way i could really see him losing it in a deep crevice in the underdark. if, for example, he is ambushed and the crown physically is knocked off of his head then the crown could be lost ina deep crevice. not specifically remembering where the ambush occured and hounded by agents of his uncle he could not have had time to really go and do a thorough search for it for a period of time. in that time some other beign could have gotten it or the crevice in which it fell could end in a portal to the shadow plane or elemental plane of earth and from those locations only ao knows where it is. |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 12:06:20
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Well, the Crown isn't lost--Myrkul makes sure he/it is worn, so he willfully abandoned Nhyris to choose another host, IIRC.
As to the yuan-ti's status, I can't recall if he wore the crown long enough that he's undead or not, but he's probably got some power or influence...especially if he could have a copy of the crown made to look as if he's still got it. Then, just the threat of using it might get him what he wants....at least where he's known or has been when he bore the true Crown.
Just a thought, as those in power rarely like to admit when they've lost their power and go on as long as they can without admitting weaknesses.....
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Beirnadri Magranth
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 : 16:23:23
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Nhyris did become a lich.
About losing power and not admitting it, I would think an event in which he loses the crown would involve other characters and that would be hard to cover up.
I could be wrong. Afterall, Golem did lose The Ring, which was his precious, while he was alone in the tunnels. (then again maybe I'm right because didnt the goblins cause him to drop it?
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Calrond
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 18:33:40
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| I've heard that if the Crown has made someone into a lich, and then teleports away, choosing another host, that lich is destroyed immediately. Is that canon Realmslore or just someone's pet theory? |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 18:51:06
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| Calrond, you bring up a good point, and yet a conundrum . . . according to Magic of Faerun if the Crown advances someone to lichdom and then teleports away, the lich is destroyed when the crown leaves. Which means somehow Nyhris didn't get destroyed when it teleported away, violating that particular "rule" . . . |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 18:53:59
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Calrond, you bring up a good point, and yet a conundrum . . . according to Magic of Faerun if the Crown advances someone to lichdom and then teleports away, the lich is destroyed when the crown leaves. Which means somehow Nyhris didn't get destroyed when it teleported away, violating that particular "rule" . . .
since the crown is kind of Myrkul's avatar, wouldn't the crown only destroy the lich when Myrkul willed it?
maybe he saw that Nyhris still had value in the future so it spared him... |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 18:56:41
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| Just checked Serpent Kingdoms . . . Nyhris never fully became a lich . . . if the crown teleports away before "full lichdom" the wearer can survive . . . it only states that he became lichlike and progressed towards undeath, but his stats are not those of an undead creature, and he has one level of the Horned Harbringer PrC from Faiths and Pantheons. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 19:14:14
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| Then they retcon'd it because he was a lich in the Skullport sourcebook. :( |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 01:26:13
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Just checked Serpent Kingdoms . . . Nyhris never fully became a lich . . . if the crown teleports away before "full lichdom" the wearer can survive . . . it only states that he became lichlike and progressed towards undeath, but his stats are not those of an undead creature, and he has one level of the Horned Harbringer PrC from Faiths and Pantheons.
That would appear to connect somewhat, with the description of Nhyris on pg. 87 of the Skullport accessory. It clear notes Nhyris as a "pureblood yuan-ti lich," though, it also notes that the corruptive magic of the Crown of Horns was responsible for transforming Nhyris into a "sort of lich." It also suggests that Nhyris's present undead state is *unique* -- both references could support the note in SK about Nhyris never fully becoming a lich. The entry in Skullport also notes Nhyris possesses the majority of the abilities that a lich can access - though not all of them.
Looking at this, one could suggest that Nhyris was not a "full lich" when he lost the artifact and thus, was not restricted to the "rule" about being destroyed when the Crown is removed from the lich's possession. Not being a full lich, may have given Nhyris a way around such a "rule."
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