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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:24:28
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I'd forgotten about the appalling Dwarven names, like Dagnabbit and Tred McKnuckles.  And the gnomes have names like Nanfoodle as well.
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:26:19
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Originally posted by kalin agrivar
Realms tinker gnomes
Tinker gnomes are DL territory.
But yes, the reclamation of a real dwarven realm would be cool. Mithral Hall and Felbarr are comparatively small compared to...uh...whatsitsname..the place for the Wyrmskull throne... |
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Aes Tryl
Learned Scribe
181 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:31:31
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| Hmm I believe you are refering to Shanatar and its eight cities right? |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:33:13
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| Aye...thanks...sometimes my brain is like a leaking waterbucket. |
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Aes Tryl
Learned Scribe
181 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:37:59
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I think that tends to happen when someone tries to read and memorise all the D&D sourcebooks that ever came out. For those people who seem to be like Elminster and Khelben, you suck :P.
In a nice, friendly way of course XD |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:40:24
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
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Originally posted by kalin agrivar
Realms tinker gnomes
Tinker gnomes are DL territory.
But yes, the reclamation of a real dwarven realm would be cool. Mithral Hall and Felbarr are comparatively small compared to...uh...whatsitsname..the place for the Wyrmskull throne...
the "official" Tinker gnomes are dragonlance (the gnomoi/minoi) but in the late 2nd there started a big push to turn the rock gnome into a smarter/wiser/less annoying tinker gnome...thus their sudden affiliation to Gond, their "inventiveness", the gunsmith from the demihuman kits book, etc.
thus the "Realms tinker gnome" or Gondish Gnome I guess...I'v considered making the "gondish gnome" a new subrace..like the Lueren/Strongheart halfling |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:48:53
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The tinker-like aspect of the gnomes were the result of TSR bringing the concept of the tinker gnomes into the Realms, and also largely because Gond appeared (in the form of a gnome) on the island during the Time of Troubles.
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:49:33
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Originally posted by Aes Tryl
I think that tends to happen when someone tries to read and memorise all the D&D sourcebooks that ever came out. For those people who seem to be like Elminster and Khelben, you suck :P.
In a nice, friendly way of course XD
Damn...I'm caught...  |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:53:21
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Originally posted by The Sage
The tinker-like aspect of the gnomes were the result of TSR bringing the concept of the tinker gnomes into the Realms, and also largely because Gond appeared (in the form of a gnome) on the island during the Time of Troubles.
I forgot about ToT fact...and that Gond subsumed the Nebulan (sp?)demigod/hero that was in the Monster Mythology book... |
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Aes Tryl
Learned Scribe
181 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 14:55:11
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Haha this is coming from someone who studies History, Literature and Economics (subjects which involve massive amounts of reading and memorisation) but totally GAVE UP when it came to the massive amount of D&D lore. . .Well i did try but yeah i kinda noticed when i thought i saw smoke rising outta my head. . . or was that just the burned toast
Nah it was both :P |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Aes Tryl
Learned Scribe
181 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 15:30:40
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Yep too many rules = well World Politics :D
Who says D&D is just a game anyways ;P |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 16:17:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
The gnomes... I would prefer to stay isolated. We don't need no Tinkers in the Realms.
Though Faerūnian gnomes do have a tendency towards mechanical aptitude, they are not the tinker gnomes of Krynn. To think of them as such is to do them a disservice.
If only they were. Those little guys are so much fun :) |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 20:14:15
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| I've been very taken with the forest gnomes, if the little blighters weren't so shy I'd consider using them more. |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 20:16:11
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Originally posted by Reefy
I've been very taken with the forest gnomes, if the little blighters weren't so shy I'd consider using them more.
I have used them, mostly in 2nd Ed. they made excellent thieves...I imagine a ranger/rogue forest gnome in 3rd Ed. could be potent  |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 20:24:11
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Nah, people!
Thief/Shadow Mage (or Illusionist) Svirfneblin all the way.
Or assassin Svirf, as my friend liked to play. :) |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2006 : 20:26:47
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| I don't know, I fell in love with forest gnomes in the Marco Volo adventures with the spider wranglers in Spiderhaunt Woods |
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FridayThe13th
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Aug 2006 : 01:19:24
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Originally posted by Torkael
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Yeah, you could always go with the Greyhawk bard gnome, but the idea of a gnomish bard just seems, weird, to me. Maybe its just because I have read too much DL and seen to much tinker gnomes to even consiter gnomes as anything else.
Uhh, gnomes need not be bards, either...
Try to use your imagination a little.
Gnomish barbarian tribes? Or liches maybe?
A gnomish lich? Sweet idea. "Imagines short, little liches with rocker launchers and AK-47s". Now that would scare the crap out of any adventuring party |
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Aes Tryl
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 11 Aug 2006 : 10:46:03
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| oo i like your idea of a Svir Assassin or Shadow Mage, it adds new dimensions to ur typical deep gnome races XD |
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Ardashir
Senior Scribe
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2006 : 17:26:18
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Originally posted by Chosen of MoradinFor the dwarves, we are still waiting for an author-hero of the dwarven people, that will give us a good sourcebook.
Dwarves of Faerūn.... sounds good
I'd love to see that myself. Up the dwarves! (Er, in a good way.)
But until then, Races of Faerun and Lost Empires of Faerun give a lot of info on the little guys. And I for one would love to see someone do something with the current war between the gold dwarves and the duergar over the ruins of High Shanatar. I like that they're both trying to 'reclaim' something that originally belonged to the shield dwarves... |
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Ardashir
Senior Scribe
USA
544 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2006 : 17:30:18
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Gnomish barbarian tribes? Or liches maybe?
"Blood for Urdlen!" I always thought a group of savagely evil gnomish Urdlen worshippers would make for a memorable encounter. Especially if the PCs are foolish enough not to take them seriously! |
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the Movers and Shakers of Faerun... all the same?
