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Gellion
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 Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 06:11:41
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Hehe, Okay I just thought of this. Would the spell Spiderclimb be outlawed by the Priestesses in Menzoberranzan and other Lolth worhsipping cities? Since its material component is a live spider which must be eaten in order for the spell to work.
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 08:16:17
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| Definitely. I can`t imagine a spell like that being allowed in the Spider Queen`s stronghold. |
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Inaubryn
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 09:59:30
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| Well, the drow house insignia does list spider climb as one of the possible spells. And I've heard of drow usin' spider climb. Perhaps, takin' onthe characteristics of a spider pleases Lolth so much that she overlooks you swallowin' a spider to do it. *shrugs* |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 10:13:51
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| ... Or maybe they just use a different material component? |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 12:28:13
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That would be awkward. Lemme just eat this spider to get this spell going for you Valas. Excuse me Quethel -Gulp!-  If my Elven mage ever gets to Menzo I am definitely stepping on some spiders.  I'll let you know if I survive the deed.  |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 14:00:43
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Originally posted by GothicDan
... Or maybe they just use a different material component?
exactly
but then again, even though spiders are sacred to the drow, the drow alos believe in the survival of the fittest and a little spider that was slow or stupid enough to get caught for the use of the spell may deserve being swallowed  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 17:17:41
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quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar
but then again, even though spiders are sacred to the drow, the drow alos believe in the survival of the fittest and a little spider that was slow or stupid enough to get caught for the use of the spell may deserve being swallowed
So why wouldn't that apply to a spider being stepped on? |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 17:25:53
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
So why wouldn't that apply to a spider being stepped on?
I would think that it matters how and why it happened (killing the spider that is) in my humble opinion
if a priestess was just beign careless than it's her fault (no excuse for ignorance or carelessness)...if it was a male drow then I bet there is no excuse...but if a drow priestess was starving out in the wilds of the Underdark could she eat a spider (especially if she hunted it down first)? |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 17:35:06
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Well perhaps eat a summoned spider, after it dies it returns to where is was summoned from and is alive.
More likely another component is used. |
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Wenin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 18:41:34
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| What would happen to a summoned creature that you ate? =) |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 19:10:20
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 04 Aug 2006 : 19:13:28
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then would it be technically used up for the spell?
and if a drow priestess of lolth summoned a spider to use for the spell, would it be from the Demonweb Pits? |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 : 04:12:16
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| My vote would be for just about any other wall crawling insect to be used for a material component . . . in fact, now that I think about it, they may even eat little tiny sucker footed lizards as a material component, given how much the drow seem to use lizards for mounts, etc. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 : 05:50:52
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
My vote would be for just about any other wall crawling insect to be used for a material component . . . in fact, now that I think about it, they may even eat little tiny sucker footed lizards as a material component, given how much the drow seem to use lizards for mounts, etc.
Lizard egg jelly, on toast. |
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Kiaransalyn
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 : 08:41:42
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| Maybe when drow cast Spider Climb they have to swallow the spider whole. If Lolth approves of their use of the spell then the spider doesn't eat its way out of your stomach. |
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Zanan
Senior Scribe
Germany
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Posted - 08 Aug 2006 : 09:39:08
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... or maybe the Dark Mother repays anyone using a spider climb spell a thousandfold once they meet her in person.  |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2006 : 03:00:23
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| Lolth would TOTALLY do that. ;) |
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Is Spiderclimb a forbidden spell in Menzo?
