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EliaMorgona
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 :  18:40:59  Show Profile  Visit EliaMorgona's Homepage Send EliaMorgona a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does this spell when used on just 1 person (in a one on one situation) hit with all 7 rays if all ranged touch attacks hit?\


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Kentinal
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 :  18:52:18  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Every creature in the area is randomly struck by one or more beams"

"8 Struck by two rays; roll twice more, ignoring any “8” results."

The way I read this text, I would say it is not posible that every creature in area of effect to be hit by more then two rays, most kit by one.

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Edited by - Kentinal on 30 Jul 2006 18:54:17
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Sanishiver
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 :  20:31:17  Show Profile  Visit Sanishiver's Homepage Send Sanishiver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EliaMorgona

Does this spell when used on just 1 person (in a one on one situation) hit with all 7 rays if all ranged touch attacks hit?


Hello EliaMorgona,

According to the most recent rules text for this spell, there are no ranged touch attack rolls for this spell. It has an area defined as a cone (see spell description).

Thus, whether there's 0, 1, 10 or 100 creatures within the area of the cone, each creature is still struck randomly by the beams.

The exact number of beams that hit each creature is determined by the chart in the spell text.

On a roll of 1-7, a creature is hit by one beam. On an 8, the creature is hit by two beams.

So the minimum number of beams that can hit a creature is one, the maximum is two (as Kentinal pointed out).

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Na-Gang
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 :  10:46:57  Show Profile  Visit Na-Gang's Homepage Send Na-Gang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also, from Prismatic Ray (Spell Comp.) it says:

"You must succeed on a ranged touch attack with the ray to strike a target. On a successful attack, a creature with 6HD or fewer is blinded for 2d4 rounds by the prismatic ray in addition to suffering a randomly determined effect."

Now, my belief is that the intention of the spell is to cause the damage of the coloured ray to all levels and HD, but that only creatures of 6HD or fewer are blinded, but if one were reading literally you could argue that only creatures of 6HD or less are affected at all.

What do you think?
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Mariuss
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 :  17:00:02  Show Profile  Visit Mariuss's Homepage Send Mariuss a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Prismatic Ray and Spray are diffrent spells. I personally think that spell effects creatures over that HD and blinds the lower ones.

It seems to me like Rays are over powered in general what do you guys think?
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Na-Gang
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Posted - 31 Jul 2006 :  17:57:53  Show Profile  Visit Na-Gang's Homepage Send Na-Gang a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mariuss

Prismatic Ray and Spray are diffrent spells. I personally think that spell effects creatures over that HD and blinds the lower ones.



I know they're different spells, but I didn't make that clear. You're forgiven

Thanks for backing me up though.
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