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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 11:46:13
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Poll Question:
Well met
I wish to get a feeling on how many intend to participate in the Swords of Eveningstar (Knights of Myth Drannor trilogy, by Ed Greenwood) book club starting next month. With this book being a hardcover, I know some prefer to await the paperback release.
If there is sufficient interest, i'll get the threads up next week.
Thank ye.
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Alaundo
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 15:41:11
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Jeez, Alaundo! The very THOUGHT of making us wait to hash over what Ed has described as "the new foundation/intro book for the Realms." (!) |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 16:05:30
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If I can check this one out from work, I'll join in the discussion. Otherwise, I'm gonna have to wait for ye olde paperback. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 16:13:13
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| I have to say, I usually wait for paperbacks, but at the same time, I am really looking forward to this book, so I am probably going to pick this up in hardcover, dispite the ire of my lovely bride (heh heh). At the very least, if we can get a fairly good amount to join in now, the book club will still be up when the paperback comes out (though perhaps when that happens we should send up a reminder to all). |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 17:18:00
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I'd probably join it but that depends on:
a) I can get a copy at Gencon.
b) when I get back from Gencon and manage to read the book
c) if I have any other books that need to be finished before this one, but I doubt that might happen because I'm close to finishing the series I'm currently rereading/reading. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 18:00:10
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| If my library gets in the book, then I'll participate. Right now, I'm paying a lot more attention to where my gold goes... |
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Braveheart
Learned Scribe
Austria
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 18:12:12
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I'll participate too, I just hope Amazon sends me the book soon. What about inviting THO to this Book Club? Perhaps she has some insight she would care to share with us  |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 18:14:48
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| I will wait for the paperback version I think. I am tempted to get it in hardcover, but I still believe I can wait a year, after all these years of wanting a Knights of Myth Drannor book I can wait one more. |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 18:53:48
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Originally posted by Braveheart
I'll participate too, I just hope Amazon sends me the book soon. What about inviting THO to this Book Club? Perhaps she has some insight she would care to share with us
Well met
Glad to hear it Braveheart  Oh i'm quite sure the Hooded One will pick up the tome and join in. I can't imagine there's anything she's more excited abou..... what AM I saying!?  |
Alaundo
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Crust
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 19:00:49
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I preordered the hardback a month ago. Ed Greenwood's novels deserve a place of honor on my shelf, not stuffed away in some box like a paperback.
I'm eagerly awaiting this book. It's always a holiday of sorts for me when a new Greenwood book comes out. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 19:49:55
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jul 2006 : 22:01:36
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| Unless by some miracle my local library picks it up, I'll be waiting for paperback. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 00:37:22
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Damn straight I'll be picking this book up as soon as it hits shelves.
I've been waiting for so long for it. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 02:22:11
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Well, Hel-LO, Alaundo, dear! Mmmm, your lap is certainly . . . comfy . . .
Ed tells me that the book has too many characters, but that as he was writing "Realms history," he couldn't prune everyone out. So expect a slow-ish beginning and a whirlwind end, with some Realms VIPs appearing in all-too-brief cameos.
I have read SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR and enjoyed it immensely. It's not an epic, and I'm sure those who don't read attentively enough, or take the time to understand how Ed treats the Realms, or who like to trash Ed's writing, will see Florin as a Bobby-Sue character. More fool them.
It IS a "good read," as well as being full of "essential Realmslore" of the "this is how these particular characters act, think, and speak as of this date" sort. It has a SMALL amount of sex, a LOT of "human nature" humour, and sets up a goodly number of loose ends.
I will read it many times, I think, in the years to come.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 02:28:26
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
I have read SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR and enjoyed it immensely. It's not an epic...
Awesome. I'm so tired of so-called "epics". |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 03:42:11
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| Hey, I like ranger leader type heroes, so I have been hoping to see more of Florin for a while. Anyone that charges into battle ready to hit a Red Wizard with a fish . . . |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 09:35:56
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Well, Hel-LO, Alaundo, dear! Mmmm, your lap is certainly . . . comfy . . .
Ed tells me that the book has too many characters, but that as he was writing "Realms history," he couldn't prune everyone out. So expect a slow-ish beginning and a whirlwind end, with some Realms VIPs appearing in all-too-brief cameos.
I have read SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR and enjoyed it immensely. It's not an epic, and I'm sure those who don't read attentively enough, or take the time to understand how Ed treats the Realms, or who like to trash Ed's writing, will see Florin as a Bobby-Sue character. More fool them.
It IS a "good read," as well as being full of "essential Realmslore" of the "this is how these particular characters act, think, and speak as of this date" sort. It has a SMALL amount of sex, a LOT of "human nature" humour, and sets up a goodly number of loose ends.
I will read it many times, I think, in the years to come.
love,
THO
Well as thou art so comfortably seated, my sweet lady Hooded One, ye might as well stay on my lap and read the tome once more 
I'm certainly glad to hear this and i'm sure the book, whatever the pace, will be a beautiful journey in the Realms |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 28 Jul 2006 : 10:15:08
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Awesome. I'm so tired of so-called "epics".
Seconded!
Supposedly, WotC's aim is to make FR more of a living, dynamic world. To me, all of these epics just make it seem contrived. To me, a living, breathing world is reading about what actually NORMALLY happens to people, from commoner to king!
People don't live from one crisis to the next, usually. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 02:27:13
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Seconded!
Supposedly, WotC's aim is to make FR more of a living, dynamic world. To me, all of these epics just make it seem contrived. To me, a living, breathing world is reading about what actually NORMALLY happens to people, from commoner to king!
People don't live from one crisis to the next, usually.
I don't even need to add to that...that's basically exactly how I feel.
It will be so refreshing to read a book that just tries to be a fun story and doesn't take itself too seriously (unlike certain other books I'm thinking of...). |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 05:28:23
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Pre-Ordered from Amazon as soon as I finished the Exerpt.
Can't wait for a fresh look at old friends! |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 05:46:45
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It will be so refreshing to read a book that just tries to be a fun story and doesn't take itself too seriously (unlike certain other books I'm thinking of...).
Heeeehehe.
Couldn't resist. ;) |
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"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5695 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 10:56:22
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Well met
Well after a few days of this poll being up, we're at a 2:1 for reading the hardcover. I'll therefore set up the book club threads shortly
Hooded One, if ye would kindly ask Ed to pass on the layout of the book (prologue, number of chapters and epilogue?) and if he would recommend a logical split of sections (or just go for an even split), then i'd be grateful. Please email or PM me the details
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 18:34:14
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I like too many characters. (We cross our fingers that Jelde hasn't been cut from the book or merged with Whisper.)
As usual, we unAmericans may lag on getting hold of the book; mine's on order at Amazon alongside the new dragons sourcebook.
The final cover and two-page prologue are here. Based on page count and density, this is a fairly long book. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 03:15:58
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Done, dearest Alaundo. E-mail wafted on its e-way . . .
Faraer, Ed tells me you'll get to see Whisper (not nearly as much of him as Ed would have liked to squeeze in), and Jelde (but as Semoor, of course). He also says the Knights don't geographically reach Jhaele in this book (or, quite likely, the next!).
For some crazy reason, whoever designed this book set all of Ed's chapter-heading "quotable quotes of the Realms" off on their own pages (!), leading to WAY too much white space. Ed saw that, growled "DAMN it! I could have fit another CHAPTER in!" . . . and started counting typos. (Up to eight, thus far.)
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 03:35:27
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Well, I'd love to join in... but by now Big Al, you know how difficult it is for anyone here in Australia to actively participate in the Book Club at the same time as our fellow US scribes.
I'll chime in where I can... but the fact that I'll have other books to read before I get to Swords (though I'm really tempted to put them to the side and read Ed's book just as soon as the hardcover is released) may delay any participation on my part, until much later. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 03:40:11
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Ah, but unlike, say, BLACKSTAFF (with its big spoiler ending), discussion of SWORDS is unlikely to hinge on "Wow! Guess what's in THIS book?" moments.
More than other Realms novels, everybody who cares to "knows something about" its events already. The fun is going to be going along for the ride, and in seeing how Ed portrays hitherto-neglected or younger-than-we've-seen-them-to-date Realms characters, and in "being there" at key meetings and confrontations.
I loved it, but then . . . I'm a Knight.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 03:52:40
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That's exactly what I'm hoping for... a "going along for the ride" tale involving the early Knights.
Thanks THO... you just made my decision somewhat easier. I'm reading Swords just as soon as a copy is delivered to my doorstep.
As always, you have my love. |
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Edited by - The Sage on 30 Jul 2006 03:53:31 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 05:20:46
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Ah, but unlike, say, BLACKSTAFF (with its big spoiler ending), discussion of SWORDS is unlikely to hinge on "Wow! Guess what's in THIS book?" moments.
*keels over in utter happiness*
Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU!
I loved Blackstaff, but it will be SO refreshing to just have a "fun ride", as you put it. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Jul 2006 : 18:35:54
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| I am really excited about this book. |
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Xysma
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