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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 04:18:08
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True, but considering a lot of senior clergy seem to be traveling to other temples to discuss what to do about what is going on, its likely that some of the more powerful members of the temple were away, which in turn contributes to why they basically retreated instead of standing their ground . . . of course, without anything official stating that, its just a gut feeling, but I think it kinda makes sense.
Actually, this could be a really good hook for some members of the "orthodox" Lathanderites to be really ticked off at the heresy, since it distracted them when they really should have been able to focus on bigger issues at hand. Then again the heretics could always claim that an orthodox temple was swept away because if its lack of acknowledgement of the new order. This actually could play really well into the whole heresy plotline. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 06:15:37
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| The day Sarya destroys the temple in Myth Drannor is the same day that Daelegoth calls on his god to relieve the drought around Elversult |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 06:19:17
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| Don't try to make sense out of what doesn't make sense. That's all I have to say about that subject. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 07:06:50
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Agreed.
Especially considering Rich himself said that the supplements department and the novels department weren't really in contact with each other at the time these books were printed. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 11:07:42
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::Taking a deep breath::
Even if it was unintentional, it is a way to explain what is going on and why some of the major clergy of Lathander might not have been on hand to aid in the defense of the temple. Dargoth is trying to put together a list of what happened, day by day, during the last few years in the Realms, and if a solution presents itself, even accidentally, it makes perfect sense that he would point it out.
There have been a great many things that have seemed contradictory until a reference like this was found in the past and expounded upon to help explain why a contradictin isn't. I daresay that our estemmed George and Eric Boyd are masters of finding little tid bits like this and using them to patch any holes in the dam, so to speak. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 16:34:06
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I just don't see why there has to be an additional explanation... No one knew the fey'ri were going to Myth Drannor. There was what, 1500 of them? Plus the fiends Sarya was summoning... It would not be difficult for 1500 flying, shapechanging fighter/sorcerers to walk all over the defenders of a temple.
It's likely they were under attack before they knew it, and that the fighting was over in a matter of hours. That gives no one else a chance to respond. And the only ways anyone else could have even been contacted was if a messenger snuck out and warned them (which would mean it would be at least a couple of days before there was a response; that would be far too late), or by magic. Magic would allow for an instanteous response, but only if someone powerful got the message and had the spells prepared for instanteous transport -- and even that would be a small response, compared to what they were facing.
If a far larger, more mobile force with fiendish assistance attacks a small group of priests and lay worshippers, the latter doesn't have much of a chance. That's why no explanation is needed for why no one else helped -- by the time they could mount an effective response, the mythal-guarded city was already in the solid grasp of a powerful enemy force. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 29 Jul 2006 : 16:54:11
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I don't buy either explaination, but that's me.
Now, maybe we should semi get back on topic? |
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Conlon
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 02:32:21
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| Dargoth, your efforts are immensely appreciated. I am a very busy guy and run a campaign set within your aforementioned timeframe. You will be making things much easier for me. Bravo. |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 08:13:04
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Originally posted by Dargoth
So far Ive compiled the following list of novels that are date stamped at the begining of the Chapters
Last Mythal Trilogy
Year of Rogue Dragon Trilogy
Blackstaff
Ghostwalker
The Crimson Gold
Venoms Taste (But not the other bokks in the trilogy)
Realms of Elves
Realms of Dragons
There are a number of important events that I need dates for
Warning spoilers below!!!
The date when Sojourner used the Weave Tap in Skullport (Paul Kemp)
The date when Lolth started granting spells again (WODQ authors)
The date when Llorkh was overun/destroyed (Murray Leeder)
As per Llorkh: 1373, late in Marpenoth or just afterwards. I'd love to know how you mean to incorporate this event into your campaign. Is it to be simple background. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 08:54:16
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Originally posted by Murray Leeder
As per Llorkh: 1373, late in Marpenoth or just afterwards. I'd love to know how you mean to incorporate this event into your campaign. Is it to be simple background.
Thanks Murray
How about we call it 1 Uktar 1373 Year of Rogue Dragons?
As for the campaign Im running its going to start in Daggerford then likely move onto Waterdeep. I have however managed to collect most of the LEgacy of the Green Regent RPGA modules in case my players decide to move east. If they do move east Ill have to find a way to incoporate the events in your novel into Legacy of the Green Regent camapign (The last module I managed to collect had the Western Zhents about to invade Loudwater)
Incidently another little chronological/Geographical tit bit Ive noticed
On the Night day that the conclusion of the Blackstaff novel occurs an unknown Dracolich destroys the latest version of the Barony of Starshadow. Starshadow is "Just across the road" from the High Moor........ |
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Murray Leeder
Forgotten Realms Author
Canada
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Posted - 01 Aug 2006 : 18:18:16
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Originally posted by Dargoth
quote:
Originally posted by Murray Leeder
As per Llorkh: 1373, late in Marpenoth or just afterwards. I'd love to know how you mean to incorporate this event into your campaign. Is it to be simple background.
How about we call it 1 Uktar 1373 Year of Rogue Dragons?
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That would work. The dates of Son of Thunder are a trifle hazy, mostly to obscure travel times. But the gathering at Morgur's Mound takes place on Runemeet/Highharvesttide, and I believe I make reference to it being Marpenoth as the Thunderbeasts leave the High Forest. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 14 Aug 2006 : 03:26:52
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| For those running City of the Spider Queen D+0 (When Randal Morn contacts the party) is the 30th of Marpenoth 1372 |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2006 : 05:22:38
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Update most of the novels are now done
Im currently waiting for some dates from Eric Boyd (so I can add some significant events from DoF into the timeline) Paul kemp (Erevis Cale novels) and James P Davis (Bloodwalk)
Also do the novels City of Splendors and Elminsters daughter occur 1372- time frame? (Elminsters daughter doesnt seem to have any dates and the only dated event I could find in City of Splendors where 1370-1371) |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 20 Aug 2006 : 23:32:59
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| I'm pretty sure City of Splendors falls into the time period you're doing, though I don't have access to my copy currently. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 21 Aug 2006 : 14:56:48
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| I think it's been said (can't remember where though), that the main events of City of Splendours are set one year after the prologue. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2006 : 15:02:40
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| Elminster's Daughter is set the year after Azoun's death, if I recall correctly, and City of Splendors is set the year after the Threat from the Sea trilogy. |
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2006 : 05:28:40
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| I'd certainly be interested in a copy. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 22 Aug 2006 : 07:36:46
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Elminster's Daughter is set the year after Azoun's death, if I recall correctly, and City of Splendors is set the year after the Threat from the Sea trilogy.
which means neither fit in the Timeline ok cool |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 00:18:46
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Thanks to James Davis I now have the dates for Bloodwalk
So Im just waiting on Eric and Paul
By the way does Paul Kemp still visit Candlekeep? I havent seen him around in a while and when I click on his name he hasnt got any "Recent posts"
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 00:42:23
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Originally posted by Dargoth
By the way does Paul Kemp still visit Candlekeep? I havent seen him around in a while and when I click on his name he hasnt got any "Recent posts"
He has been on and off but mostly lurking. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 01:00:55
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Originally posted by Kuje
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Originally posted by Dargoth
By the way does Paul Kemp still visit Candlekeep? I havent seen him around in a while and when I click on his name he hasnt got any "Recent posts"
He has been on and off but mostly lurking.
Paul's only just recently been on holiday, which likely accounts for some of his absence here.
See his blog for more details.
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Lady Morbannaon
Acolyte
United Kingdom
42 Posts |
Posted - 28 Aug 2006 : 20:32:54
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Im currently creating a timeline as a campaign aid for my next campaign and Im aiming to include all the recent major events in the novels between the year of Wild Magic and the Year of Lightning storms
Would any scribes be interested in seeing it when its finished?
I'd be very interested to see how it all spans out, it'll be good to have it all in one place.
Hope its going well 
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monch9
Seeker
Poland
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 : 12:54:51
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Hi Dargoth,
Do you have an ETA on this? Thanks for the work
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 01 Sep 2006 : 13:16:54
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Originally posted by monch9
Hi Dargoth,
Do you have an ETA on this? Thanks for the work
Monch
At the moment Im waiting on responses from Eric Boyds (For the DoF events) and Paul Kemp (For the events in his Erevis Cale and WOSQ novels)
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Anyone interested in 1372-1374 timeline of the FR
