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SirUrza
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Posted - 15 Jul 2006 :  21:50:21  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
In Promise of the Witch-King Jarlaxle uses a wand to create a meal, several meals for himself, Entereri and the halfling army. Hero's Feat describes a table and chairs and that certainly didn't pop up. So I'm thinking the wand he had was a basic Create Food and Water spells.. but I seem to remember the food being more tastey and that spell if I'm not incorrect is more bland in both food and drink. Am I over looking other possible spells?

[Edit.. wow lots of typos.. guess I was tired.]


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Edited by - SirUrza on 17 Jul 2006 03:17:54

Gellion
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 :  02:47:19  Show Profile  Visit Gellion's Homepage Send Gellion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Salvatore doesnt really pay much attention to the rules when writing a novel. He has said so himself.:)

"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV
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warlockco
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Posted - 16 Jul 2006 :  04:10:23  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gellion

Salvatore doesnt really pay much attention to the rules when writing a novel. He has said so himself.:)



RAS more or less still uses 1st/2nd edition rules, in which wands could be used by anyone that knew the command words.

RAS has seen no reason for the most part to make any changes to his stories just because the rules of the world that the stories are taking place in have changed.

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SirUrza
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  03:16:34  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gellion

Salvatore doesnt really pay much attention to the rules when writing a novel.


I was looking for other possibilities, not that fountain of usefulness. Bob isn't the only author that overdoes the novelization of D&D mechanics anyway.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gellion
Salvatore doesnt really pay much attention to the rules when writing a novel. He has said so himself.:)
RAS more or less still uses 1st/2nd edition rules, in which wands could be used by anyone that knew the command words.


Or a really high Use Magic Device (with possibly Skill Focus: UMD.)


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warlockco
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  08:41:22  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
Or a really high Use Magic Device (with possibly Skill Focus: UMD.)



Still wouldn't be very high, since it is a Cross-Class skill for him, the max ranks he could have would be 10 ranks (paying 20 skill points for it).

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SirUrza
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  16:29:43  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
Or a really high Use Magic Device (with possibly Skill Focus: UMD.)



Still wouldn't be very high, since it is a Cross-Class skill for him, the max ranks he could have would be 10 ranks (paying 20 skill points for it).



I simply don't believe he's a 18th level fighter or whatever silliness Underdark listed him as, I'd put him more as a Rogue/Swashbuckler or some other rapier-wielding-charismatic fencemen. It's another one of those cases of the gaming department not paying attention to what the characters in the novels are doing before they stat them.


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Edited by - SirUrza on 17 Jul 2006 16:35:22
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
Or a really high Use Magic Device (with possibly Skill Focus: UMD.)



Still wouldn't be very high, since it is a Cross-Class skill for him, the max ranks he could have would be 10 ranks (paying 20 skill points for it).



I simply don't believe he's a 18th level fighter or whatever silliness Underdark listed him as, I'd put him more as a Rogue/Swashbuckler or some other rapier-wielding-charismatic fencemen. It's another one of those cases of the gaming department not paying attention to what the characters in the novels are doing before they stat them.





That, or the fact that novel characters rarely fit into the nice, neat, pre-determined slots that are classes.

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warlockco
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  20:29:28  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza
Or a really high Use Magic Device (with possibly Skill Focus: UMD.)



Still wouldn't be very high, since it is a Cross-Class skill for him, the max ranks he could have would be 10 ranks (paying 20 skill points for it).



I simply don't believe he's a 18th level fighter or whatever silliness Underdark listed him as, I'd put him more as a Rogue/Swashbuckler or some other rapier-wielding-charismatic fencemen. It's another one of those cases of the gaming department not paying attention to what the characters in the novels are doing before they stat them.





That, or the fact that novel characters rarely fit into the nice, neat, pre-determined slots that are classes.



Exactly, and Jarlaxle has always been a Fighter since he was originally given stats back in 2E.

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Octa
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 :  23:55:45  Show Profile  Visit Octa's Homepage Send Octa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think you guys are looking at this backwards, the only way to possibly describe Jarlaxe and the way he fights etc... was as a fighter in 2ed. Check out servant of the Shard, he is described as using a swashbuckling style, hence WoTC inventing the Swashbuckler class tailor made for Jarlaxe!
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SirUrza
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  00:27:25  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

That, or the fact that novel characters rarely fit into the nice, neat, pre-determined slots that are classes.

Exactly, and Jarlaxle has always been a Fighter since he was originally given stats back in 2E.


Yes and as stated the magic system of 2E was different. The multiclassing system of 2E was ALSO different.

Character don't fit nicely? Sithspit! Look at Elminster, Drizzt? They've both got their splashs from their short alternative lives. Fighter, Cleric, Rogue, Barbarian.

Jarlaxle uses all kinds of magic items, a straighter fighter he is not. His fighting system doesn't even lend well to it and there have been rapier wielding prestige classes before there were FR regional supplements.

It's more lazy stating, nothing else.


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