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Wandering_mage
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 Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 20:18:14
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What is your favorite wizard weapon augmentation spell. I am torn between Blackstaff, Greater Magic Weapon, and there is a flame oriented spell that I can't recall just now. Any thoughts? Please share. I am going to be rocking it out with a wizard Gold Elf soon. Any advice and thoughts would be greatly appreciated.  Cheers!
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 03 Jul 2006 : 20:47:28
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I'd not go for augmentation as such.
Instead I'd take the wizard staff suggestion taken from Dragon 338 (I think) which replaces the familiar with a very neat staff |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 00:33:15
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| I actually went to my library checked out that Dragon magazine and copied it for later use. Good point Mace! |
Illum
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 05:44:11
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| it's only anything worth it if you go pretty much full wizard and few/none prestige classes |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 06:04:28
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| Which is another reason to take this staff...too many other classes and you go to min-max again. One of my players uses this option now: he is a Clr1/Wiz8/WarWiz1. The staff is very much of use for him, he sacrificed one spell slot to imbue the staff with fireballs, thus he now has a staff with three fireballs equal to his wizard level and need not bother about that particular spell very much. A great advantage from my point of view. |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 12:32:23
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You know, when I saw the title of this thread, my thoughts immediately turned to this. Sing all together!
quote:
A wizard's staff has a knob on the end
It never will buckle, it never will bend
He cherishes it, and he calls it his friend,
and he frequently takes it in hand.
Whenever a wizard is lonely or sad,
Or feeling dejected, or puzzled, or mad,
He turns to his staff, and things don't seem so bad --
By it he is never trepanned.
A wizard when young has a staff that is small.
It's puny and weak, ineffective withal.
It grows with his power until it stands tall
As his fame and his glory expand.
When a wizard is old, and is starting to fade
He looks on his staff that with cunning he made
The crown of his life and the tool of his trade
And together they make their last stand.
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Mace Hammerhand
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Trace_Coburn
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
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Posted - 04 Jul 2006 : 14:39:18
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
ROFL this is a very nice poem bwahahahaha
'Tis actually a song from Terry Pratchett's Discworld novel-series/universe, though this is the first time I've ever seen the full text. You might not be surprised to learn that it's much favoured by Ankh-Morpork's inebriated.... |
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Mace Hammerhand
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 00:20:14
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| I love the poem! I am a full wizard fan myself. I also love the wizard who totes a staff image. Gandalf anyone? Although Eliminster pictured with that Dragon pommeled sword of his is awesome to behold. Breaks the mold that one. |
Illum
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 00:31:36
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Wizards who tote staffs are much cooler than familiars.
And only in 3E was El carrying around that sword everywhere he went. He seemed to prefer a staff (and pipe!) more in older editions. |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 03:06:02
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Something I never realized until now.  Thanks for the info Gothicdan. I think the familiar ability of wizards is ok but hey if you pimp your staff you'll be A ok all the Dungeon long. Plus I hate the thought of some little goblin killing my familiar. |
Illum
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Jul 2006 : 14:28:11
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
I'd not go for augmentation as such.
Instead I'd take the wizard staff suggestion taken from Dragon 338 (I think) which replaces the familiar with a very neat staff
A very nice idea indeed. It also serve the purpose of the DM as well. No annoying little familiar around that "scouts" ahead. 
Will take a look at #338. |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 10:13:39
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| Funny thing about the Wizard in my group is that he walks around with a +2 longsword at his side and wields a staff, plus the shield on his back (just in case he needs to go into melee!). It already was fun to see the other characters seeing him all changed, from the bald Mulhorandi scrivener to the bearded, long haired warwizard. I will have tons of fun playing the confused monsters when the fireball flinging wizard finally draws steel and charges them! |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 10:30:50
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I just read the article in Dragon again. Good stuff!!!!! As to sword wielding wizards I am all for it. I was even thinking about strapping a bow on my elf mage's back so that he could range melee if need be. I ultimately decided against it. I am aiming for light traveling wizard with a hunger for adventure and a glowing staff of ouchs if ye get out of line.  |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 11:09:45
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Not exactly concerning the weapon of wizards but something that somewhat complements to the options of mages and that some of you reading this thread might be interested as well:
There is another alternative for the "regular" familiar in Dragon Mag. #341 - the Familiar Constructs! You might want to check those out as well.
Ergdusch
Edit - there is a list of alternative "regular" familiars as well in the same issue (i.e. chameleon, monkey, squirrel ect.) |
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Akryn
Acolyte
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 12:48:51
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Hey!
Im interested about the wizards staff suggestion as described in Dragon #338 after reading this topic but alas i dont have the magazine. Can someone summarize how it works or post the rules here if it“s not a huge article.
Thanksies! :D |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 13:22:06
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Get a staff instead of a familiar. The staff growths in power as you gain levels. You can spend feats on more special abilities, and with craft wand you can also add wand features to the staff...
That's about it, in a sesame bun with some majo |
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 22:29:09
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quote:
Originally posted by Winterfox
You know, when I saw the title of this thread, my thoughts immediately turned to this. Sing all together!
quote:
A wizard's staff has a knob on the end
It never will buckle, it never will bend
He cherishes it, and he calls it his friend,
and he frequently takes it in hand.
Whenever a wizard is lonely or sad,
Or feeling dejected, or puzzled, or mad,
He turns to his staff, and things don't seem so bad --
By it he is never trepanned.
A wizard when young has a staff that is small.
It's puny and weak, ineffective withal.
It grows with his power until it stands tall
As his fame and his glory expand.
When a wizard is old, and is starting to fade
He looks on his staff that with cunning he made
The crown of his life and the tool of his trade
And together they make their last stand.
That song makes me giggle. |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 12:50:13
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| I think that works as a great wizard drinking song. I was rhyming the other day and thought up a funny little song but alas I had no paper to write on. Thus another artistic work lost to short term memory! |
Illum
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 04:40:51
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| A nifty spell from the BG games which would have been nice for PnP is Melf's Minute Meteors....having small balls of flame to toss as a weapon is fun. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 05:53:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
A nifty spell from the BG games which would have been nice for PnP is Melf's Minute Meteors....having small balls of flame to toss as a weapon is fun.
Uh, that was a spell in 2E, long before the computer games. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 07:04:37
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quote:
Originally posted by Winterfox
You know, when I saw the title of this thread, my thoughts immediately turned to this. Sing all together!
quote:
A wizard's staff has a knob on the end
It never will buckle, it never will bend
He cherishes it, and he calls it his friend,
and he frequently takes it in hand.
Whenever a wizard is lonely or sad,
Or feeling dejected, or puzzled, or mad,
He turns to his staff, and things don't seem so bad --
By it he is never trepanned.
A wizard when young has a staff that is small.
It's puny and weak, ineffective withal.
It grows with his power until it stands tall
As his fame and his glory expand.
When a wizard is old, and is starting to fade
He looks on his staff that with cunning he made
The crown of his life and the tool of his trade
And together they make their last stand.
Sounds like this one from Elfsong
There was a knight who longed to wield
A more impressive lance
To carry into battle
And aid him in romance
Hey there! Ho, there!
A lesson's here for you:
Be careful what you ask for,
For your wishes might come true
A wizard overheard the knight
And granted his request
The knight at first was overjoyed
To see how he was blessed
The knight went to a party
With his weapon thus enhanced
The lance made dinning difficult
And tripped him when he danced
The next day at the tournment
He won the jousting meets,
For all who faces his fearsome lance
Fell laughing from their seats
Hey there! Ho, there!
A lesson's here for you:
Be careful what you ask for,
For your wishes might come true
Danilo Thanns singing sword |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 15 Aug 2006 : 23:02:47
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair
A nifty spell from the BG games which would have been nice for PnP is Melf's Minute Meteors....having small balls of flame to toss as a weapon is fun.
Uh, that was a spell in 2E, long before the computer games.
Ah I was unaware of that. I should look at my 2E spellbooks more often then lol. It should be converted to 3E along with Larloch's Minor Drain. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 18 Aug 2006 : 15:56:20
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| My favorite wizard weapon augmentation spell is definitely greater magic weapon at the upper levels. Take your average wizard who has say a staff. Put defender on it. Now, at any time he can increase his AC by 5 by pulling that +5 enhancement bonus from his staff. If the same mage has combat expertise, he can pull an addition +5 (if you have the quick staff feat from complete warrior, this becomes +7, which isn't bad if you want to be a staff-wielding dual-weaponing warrior/mage) |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 19 Aug 2006 : 20:04:33
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Sleyvas, you still astonish with your innovative thinking! I have been adventuring with my imbued staff for a few sessions now and it has been very useful. I am a 3rd level mage with a +1 weapon that can do a cantrip spell if need be. I plan on enchanting my staff further by adding properties that would come in handy during spell battles. Those spells being feather fall, gust of wind (if I can), added AC improvement, and death ward. I'll have my brother who is the party cleric hook me up with the death ward. I think all of those would be very useful and I might add an enhanced fly spell. I basically want to leave room for buffing magics to use on my party members, attack spells, and abjuration tricks out the whazoo!!!! I want to fight a mage that I can dispel everything they through at me. This would make my day. Dismiss his summoned creature, and so on.  Wandering Elven mages rock! |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 : 17:04:45
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Gods bless death ward armor enhancement. That is by far one of the most useful add-ons a mage can have (if he can wear armor.... even if its padded elven leafweave or something).
>>I want to fight a mage that I can dispel everything they through at me. This would make my >>day. Dismiss his summoned creature, and so on.
yeah, I've always wanted to try the whole improved init, improved counterspell, reactive counterspell, and archmage High Arcana Mastery of Counterspelling for a character. I may do this with one of the red wizards I'm redesigning for 3.5e (personal project). Throw in a ring of greater counterspells, maybe get some high SR through some means (spell, magic item, etc...). Of course, said character might be lunch meat for a warrior, so you've gotta be very careful where you go with it. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 22 Aug 2006 : 16:13:19
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| Yes, fighters are very mean to mages. But I just bash'em with my wizard staff. But first you cast some spells on the staff to make sure the fighter feels it. Mwhahahaha, Finger of Death anyone? |
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Alisttair
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Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 02:54:12
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| Shield is the best spell cause it blocks Magic Missile :P |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 23 Sep 2006 : 14:22:15
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I think either Shield or Mage Armor also protects against incorporal attacks. Isn't that an added bonus and a great way to boost your AC vs. a dumb ghost. I hate ghosts by the way. My wizard almost got really screwed up by one the other day.  But our monk killed it. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 11:37:21
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Originally posted by Wandering_mage
I think either Shield or Mage Armor also protects against incorporal attacks. Isn't that an added bonus and a great way to boost your AC vs. a dumb ghost. I hate ghosts by the way. My wizard almost got really screwed up by one the other day. But our monk killed it.
Well, I know for sure that actually BOTH spells - Shield AND Mage Armor - protect vs incorporal attacks, since both spells are a force effect.
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Bash'em with my wizard staff!
