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varyar
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 23 Jun 2006 : 19:47:39
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Gold elves, silver elves, copper elves, mithral elves, check. But are there any metallic-ish names for the dark elves, sea elves (possibly pearl elves?), lythari and avariel?
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 Jun 2006 : 20:04:26
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| Well pearl is not a metal, it is a gem (generally at least clasified as one) and clearly not metal. I can not recall seeing a metal name for any that you list as not having one. Dark elves and Sea elves and avariel to the best of my knowledge do not have a metal assosciated with them. Lythari in some ways might not be considered true elves because of the shapechange feature , also to my knowledge, do not have a metal assosciated with them. For what it is worth Silver is associated with the moon and a best guess as to what might best serve them, alas the Moonelves already have Silver. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 23 Jun 2006 : 20:55:29
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| Not all Elves have metal-names. They're just nicknames that other races give them. Among their own kind, they are known as the Ar-Tel'Quessir (for Sun Elves) and the like. |
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varyar
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 23 Jun 2006 : 21:09:53
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Not all Elves have metal-names. They're just nicknames that other races give them. Among their own kind, they are known as the Ar-Tel'Quessir (for Sun Elves) and the like.
Ah, I didn't know the gold/silver/etc was applied by other races. d'oh! Thanks for the replies. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 23 Jun 2006 : 21:17:58
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Yeah. "Silver" and "Gold" are Common. :)
Ar can mean a lot of things, for instance - gold, great, ruler, etc. It's most likely a derivative of a Sun Elven/Noble dialect, of course.
"Tel'Quessir" is what the Elves refer to themselves as - it means "the People." N'Tel'Quessir are the "Not People" (anyone else).
So, Sun Elves basically refer to themselves as "The Great People," or "The Ruling People," or the like.
"Arcor" was the original term for the wood of Cormanthor - it means "The Great Forest."
The Ruler's Blade also has the "Ar" prefix.
All remnants of Sun Elven culture, most likely. (Just like ethnicities among humans, not all Elves have the exact same culture - even their religious beliefs vary!) |
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Edited by - GothicDan on 23 Jun 2006 21:21:04 |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
USA
565 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 04:01:08
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Hello-
Well - for obce I felt like I was fully cognizant of everyting in this threas. Except....
Mithral Elves? Did I miss something somewhere?
Thanks!
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 04:02:50
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| Mithral Elves = Star Elves in at least some lore. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 05:23:13
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Originally posted by Kentinal
Mithral Elves = Star Elves in at least some lore.
Unapproachable East says so. :) |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 24 Jun 2006 : 07:50:08
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Originally posted by Dhomal
Hello-
Well - for obce I felt like I was fully cognizant of everyting in this threas. Except....
Mithral Elves? Did I miss something somewhere?
Thanks!
Dhomal
page 9 of unapproachable east states exactly that the star elves are sometimes referred to in ancient texts as.. mithral elves
edit: for spelling of Mithral not Mithril as earlier posted, sorry for any confusion my friends. I can read.... really |
Edited by - scererar on 08 Jul 2006 07:10:57 |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 15:25:25
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Originally posted by scererar
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Originally posted by Dhomal
Hello-
Well - for obce I felt like I was fully cognizant of everyting in this threas. Except....
Mithral Elves? Did I miss something somewhere?
Thanks!
Dhomal
page 9 of unapproachable east states exactly that the star elves are sometimes referred to in ancient texts as.. mithril elves
Thanks, I hadn`t noticed that. Which begs the question, why did they change it from mithril to mithral? I`ve been wondering over that for three years now. |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 15:48:13
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Interesting, I never knew them as Mithral Elves.
Khorne there have been a few changes to spellings etc, most of them don't seem to be conscious forced changed, merely a change in convention (Reverie used to be spelled Revery for example) |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 30 Jun 2006 : 16:46:15
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| Mithril to mithral could of course be a (very, very, very feeble) attempt to differentiate the D&D-metal from that in the world of Tolkien's Middle-earth. |
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Mace Hammerhand
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Germany
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 07 Jul 2006 : 10:44:48
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Originally posted by khorne
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Originally posted by scererar
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Originally posted by Dhomal
Hello-
Well - for obce I felt like I was fully cognizant of everyting in this threas. Except....
Mithral Elves? Did I miss something somewhere?
Thanks!
Dhomal
page 9 of unapproachable east states exactly that the star elves are sometimes referred to in ancient texts as.. mithril elves
Thanks, I hadn`t noticed that. Which begs the question, why did they change it from mithril to mithral? I`ve been wondering over that for three years now.
They're mentioned as "mithral" in the UE entry already referenced... not "mithril."
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Jul 2006 : 07:09:41
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oops, my bad  it is indeed Mithral, not Mithril. See what happens when you take off for a while Sage
I have editted my earlier post for spelling. |
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