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Patrakis
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Posted - 10 Jun 2006 :  01:45:08  Show Profile Send Patrakis a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Hi all,

Unless i am mistaken, i haven't seen this discussed here on the forums so i thought to post the link to a new product for the 4th quarter in the Forgotten REalms.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/953947400

Is this news to you guys?

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Swordsage
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Posted - 10 Jun 2006 :  02:18:55  Show Profile  Visit Swordsage's Homepage Send Swordsage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, it has been mentioned in an upcoming products thread. The adventure is set in the Yuirwood and will supposedly feature the star elves.

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Lord Nemes
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Posted - 10 Jun 2006 :  04:42:55  Show Profile  Visit Lord Nemes's Homepage Send Lord Nemes a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, but I hadn't see the cover.

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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 :  20:09:02  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, july is near the end, and september is closer and closer. As I´m pretending to DM a campaign in the East, this adventure came in good time, really.

Something have some more info about the Twilight Tomb?

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msatran
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Posted - 23 Jul 2006 :  05:08:58  Show Profile  Visit msatran's Homepage Send msatran a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hopefully, the adventure won't be lousy. The only good thing about the Sons of Gruumsh adventure was the pile o statblocks.
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Ahwe Yahzhe
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 :  06:51:55  Show Profile  Visit Ahwe Yahzhe's Homepage Send Ahwe Yahzhe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by msatran

Hopefully, the adventure won't be lousy. The only good thing about the Sons of Gruumsh adventure was the pile o statblocks.



Such pessimism - I liked SoG- it actually had some good background on the noble families and city politics embedded in the first couple of chapters of the adventure. And the castle design made it very difficult on the party when both the orcs below AND the orcs above started coming after them...

I'm hoping this will be a good adventure to portal a hapless party into...

I just noticed- it still says this $9.95, stand-along adventure is a 160-page trade paperback. Either that makes this the cheapest FR product of all time, or they got it mixed up. I'm guessing it's really a staple-bound 32-to-48 page effort, right?


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Bakra
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 :  15:53:17  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ahwe Yahzhe

quote:
Originally posted by msatran

Hopefully, the adventure won't be lousy. The only good thing about the Sons of Gruumsh adventure was the pile o statblocks.



Such pessimism - I liked SoG- it actually had some good background on the noble families and city politics embedded in the first couple of chapters of the adventure. And the castle design made it very difficult on the party when both the orcs below AND the orcs above started coming after them...

I'm hoping this will be a good adventure to portal a hapless party into...

I just noticed- it still says this $9.95, stand-along adventure is a 160-page trade paperback. Either that makes this the cheapest FR product of all time, or they got it mixed up. I'm guessing it's really a staple-bound 32-to-48 page effort, right?





I notice that too. I vote for non-typo. *rubs hands while waiting in glee* Yesssss.

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Patrakis
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Posted - 02 Aug 2006 :  17:48:43  Show Profile Send Patrakis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,

I just read the July preview article that WotC put out every month and the text is still talking about a 160 pages adventure.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/iw/20060706a

Considering the price of 9,99 $ USD, i still find it a bit surprising.

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Faraer
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Posted - 03 Aug 2006 :  09:53:34  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mat is just copying the module's product page on wizards.com, which still has the '160 pages' error, which has now been corrected on Amazon along with 'Grag E. Vaughan'.
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SirUrza
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 :  06:38:54  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Patrakis

Considering the price of 9,99 $ USD, i still find it a bit surprising.


Not if they finally broke down and stopped using high glosss full color paper in products that really don't need to be extravagent.


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Chosen of Moradin
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Brazil
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Posted - 04 Aug 2006 :  13:23:01  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I like of the pretty high gloss full color paper in my books.


Now, there is something new about this tome? Where is Mr. Greg, I´m really waiting for poke him a little about the star elves, the module, etc.

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SirUrza
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  18:55:07  Show Profile Send SirUrza a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Well, I like of the pretty high gloss full color paper in my books.


Yes but some products are DM only products (or completist products) and after the DM uses it isn't likely to open it again for years. Or atleast that's how I see many things.

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GothicDan
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  22:21:32  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What kind of DM products are only opened once? *Blinks*

I think they would get more use than any of the player products.

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Kuje
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  22:38:44  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GothicDan

What kind of DM products are only opened once? *Blinks*

I think they would get more use than any of the player products.



Well, I rarely reuse modules if I've used them once before.

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GothicDan
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Posted - 05 Aug 2006 :  22:48:25  Show Profile  Visit GothicDan's Homepage Send GothicDan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
True.

I guess I was thinking more of the DM-only (or primarily DM books) that 2E used to print. :)

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 :  13:47:53  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeap. I take a look in my Realms stuff every month, even if it is a novel, or an adventure module.

Now, I´m really curious: August Previews have came, and The Twilight Tomb continues to be listed as a book of 160 pages !!!

Maybe the Tryad finally have answering our prayers for more info about star elves, Aglarond, and the like?


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yerren
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Posted - 10 Aug 2006 :  13:59:49  Show Profile  Visit yerren's Homepage Send yerren a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hello to everybody.
Greg Vaughan, the author, said in paizo´s forums (He´s the writer of some of the last best adventures published in dungeon) about a month ago that the book is 160 pages long. Wizards asked him for a 32 pages long adventure but then they asked him to continue till the 160 pages. I think he also said that the book will contain game material about star elves but I don´t remember well. I hope it helps you.
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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 15 Aug 2006 :  15:32:27  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the news, yerren!

Now, we have only to wait and see how the WotC will handle this "adventure with lore", and pray for the better.

Chosen of Moradin, fondly remembering how The Haunted Halls of Eveningstar was a pretty good "adventure with lore"

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Brakkart
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Posted - 16 Aug 2006 :  18:57:52  Show Profile  Visit Brakkart's Homepage Send Brakkart a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well now that we know that the page count is correct at 160, then I imagine that the price tag of $9.95 has got to be wrong. That or WotC got really generous all of a sudden. I wonder what the correct price for this is going to be?

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 16 Aug 2006 :  19:04:06  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Probably it will be black & white, and with a paper of less quality...

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Patrakis
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Posted - 22 Aug 2006 :  02:09:01  Show Profile Send Patrakis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just checked the product page of WotC and The Twilight Tomb is now paged at 32. The correction must be officiel then and speculations are over:) If they didn't make a mistake:)

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Kiaransalyn
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Posted - 22 Aug 2006 :  06:46:26  Show Profile Send Kiaransalyn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's a shame, a 160 page book would have been welcome. I find the Star Elves one of the more fascinating developments to have appeared over recent years.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 22 Aug 2006 :  13:06:35  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kiaransalyn

That's a shame, a 160 page book would have been welcome. I find the Star Elves one of the more fascinating developments to have appeared over recent years.



I fully agree with you, Kiaransalyn. I´m a great fan of the star elves, too.

But let´s be positive. Maybe the rumors still are true, and the stuff of star elves was removed from the adventure (no more "adventures with lore") to be put in the Elves of Faerûn that we are calling for...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 11 Sep 2006 :  23:11:43  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And the adventure is now available. I picked it up this afternoon.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 12 Sep 2006 :  14:44:12  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met, Wooly! Good to know that you already have it in hands!

Well, what are your impressions of the adventure? It´s a good one? Have good information, follow the style of Sons of Gruumsh?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Sep 2006 :  17:24:36  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin

Well met, Wooly! Good to know that you already have it in hands!

Well, what are your impressions of the adventure? It´s a good one? Have good information, follow the style of Sons of Gruumsh?



I just started reading it last night, and I didn't get very far into it. I'm still in editing mode, and there's also a non-Realms series of novels that I've been eagerly devouring (The Dresden Files), so the adventure is a little further down on my list of priorities.

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Kaewin
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Posted - 14 Sep 2006 :  02:58:10  Show Profile Send Kaewin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Down you list? About how far say you? The Game Haven says the don't know when they my get it in. Neither Borders or Books-a-Million do modules most of the time.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kaewin

Down you list? About how far say you? The Game Haven says the don't know when they my get it in. Neither Borders or Books-a-Million do modules most of the time.



It depends on whether or not my library has book 8 of the Dresden Files. I'm currently on book 7. My plan is to finish book 7, and read 8 if I can. If not, I'll move on to a novel called Webmage (yup, I'm on an urban fantasy kick). I'll read The Twilight Tomb concurrently with that.

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 14 Sep 2006 :  04:17:57  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Funny how different stores in the same chain operate. I got the module at Borders as soon as I read someone had obtained it.

I just got a chance to read through it. I liked it quite a bit, and actually I personally think it was better than Sons of Grummsh. More of the adventure was an adventure as opposed to the various orc statblocks (while useful, they didn't make the adventure, as a story, more compelling).

Really liked it, and I liked the BBEGs that the author chose to use. The new details on Star Elves aren't major, just little snippets that are interesting to add some flavor to the race, although some of the things that were mentioned did set my mind off on a different direction.

For a 32 page adventure I think it was a pretty cool adventure.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 14 Sep 2006 :  06:26:47  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Miracle of miracles, I picked this up today. More detailed comments when I have a chance to read it properly.

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BobROE
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Posted - 14 Sep 2006 :  14:29:41  Show Profile  Visit BobROE's Homepage Send BobROE a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've read the first few section (20 some-odd rooms) and it suffers from the same problem as lots of other adventures.

The fraking maps don't match up with the fraking text. I'm really getting sick of this, how hard is it to read through the adventure to make sure that when the text says there's a door on the west wall, that there a door on the west wall on the map.
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