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reillan
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Posted - 09 Jun 2006 :  14:26:32  Show Profile  Visit reillan's Homepage Send reillan a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
From what I understand, there is a continent southeast of Kara-Tur that is similar in location and shape to Austrailia. Is there anything known about this continent? It's the vast one labeled "unknown lands" in the FR campaign set, though I've seen it labeled "terra incognita" (basically the same thing) in other sets.

I don't think there's anything at all about this place.

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We assume that Osse is one of the "unknown lands" marked on the world map on pg. 231 in the FRCS... likely the larger continent at the bottom SE of the map itself.

All we know about the land itself has been revealed in Lady of Poison. Aside from a few obvious examples in the book, I wouldn't say that Osse is a direct translation of, or heavily influenced by, Australian Aborigine culture -- Gunggari's mannerisms aside (as well as his dizheri), the supposed "ways" of the Osse people could very well be associated with many other examples of Polynesian tribal cultures.

I always thought the actual name "Osse" was a bit of a joke as a matter of fact...

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Hoondatha
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There hasn't been much of anything published about the unknown continents. (I'd make a snarky comment about that's why they're called unknown, but I'll forbear) If you're curious, howvever, several of us here on the boards have done various things with the unknown lands. I dropped the Night Ones from Shadowrun onto one of them (primarily because I loved the image of cat-like elves), gave them a fifteen thousand year history, and tied them into some of my deeper plots on the mainland. Wooly Rupert (I think?) dropped a far-wandering Netherese flying city onto one, but I'm not sure how far he took the concept. It's intriguing to me. Anyone else?

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Wooly Rupert (I think?) dropped a far-wandering Netherese flying city onto one, but I'm not sure how far he took the concept. It's intriguing to me. Anyone else?



It's an idea I've suggested, but not done anything with. Since we know that some of the Netherese enclaves did range far from home (2 crashed in the Sea of Fallen Stars, and another is rumored to lie in a Tethyrian bay), then it's not unreasonable to think that one could have been parked over another continent. If Mystra 1.0 caught that one, like she did the three in Netheril, then the survivors could have formed a new nation over there.

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Also, somewhere in the deep recesses of my memory - I recall reading some information from Ed about the size diescrepencies between his own Realms and published material - particularly that involving the ocean beyond the Sword Coast to the Maztican landmass. It was eitehr with that information - or elsewhere - that I recall a small off-hand remark that one could (if one ewanted) put his other published setting (novels only ATM as far as I know) onto one of the other landmasses.

Certainly, with spelljammer technology - even more than floating cities and/or Teleport spells - y ou would think that the other landmasses would be at least 'vaguely' known by some in the Realms. I take it to be that 'some' people ARE in the know - but - that they dont make much use of this knowledge. I would assume that the likes of Elminster, Khelben, Szass Tam, and Manshoon probably know some of what is 'over there' but since the overwhelming preponderance of the population does not know - nor care - it is of little effect in their (the people who know) lives. Although - I could see a Manshoon-clone decinding to stay there once things went wrong....

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On the other hand, they have enough problems (or opportunities) in Faerun that they might not have the time/energy/inclination to do in-depth exploration of other continents. And as for people on those continents coming back, well, that's assuming that the continents aren't hostile and that the inhabitants don't have more pressing concerns closer to home...

Wooly: is it written that Mystra 1.0 specifically saved the three floating cities? Last I remember, it was just that they were high enough in the air that they hadn't finished falling by the time magic reestablished itself. But, now that I think of it, that probably came from Netheril, and I could easily have missed newer lore.

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Wooly: is it written that Mystra 1.0 specifically saved the three floating cities? Last I remember, it was just that they were high enough in the air that they hadn't finished falling by the time magic reestablished itself. But, now that I think of it, that probably came from Netheril, and I could easily have missed newer lore.



I'm away from my lore right now (crashing at my girlfriend's place tonight), so I can't check... But I believe it was specifically stated that she caught those three cities. I'd imagine that when Karsus stole Mystryl's power, all existing magic ended -- so the birth of Mystra 1.0 wouldn't have been enough to save the cities, she'd've had to specifically try to save them.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha



Wooly: is it written that Mystra 1.0 specifically saved the three floating cities? Last I remember, it was just that they were high enough in the air that they hadn't finished falling by the time magic reestablished itself. But, now that I think of it, that probably came from Netheril, and I could easily have missed newer lore.



I'm away from my lore right now (crashing at my girlfriend's place tonight), so I can't check... But I believe it was specifically stated that she caught those three cities. I'd imagine that when Karsus stole Mystryl's power, all existing magic ended -- so the birth of Mystra 1.0 wouldn't have been enough to save the cities, she'd've had to specifically try to save them.

She did.

It was in N:EoM. After Mystra's formation was complete... "she was able to save only three of Netheril’s floating cities; the rest were utterly destroyed".

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Hoondatha



Wooly: is it written that Mystra 1.0 specifically saved the three floating cities? Last I remember, it was just that they were high enough in the air that they hadn't finished falling by the time magic reestablished itself. But, now that I think of it, that probably came from Netheril, and I could easily have missed newer lore.



I'm away from my lore right now (crashing at my girlfriend's place tonight), so I can't check... But I believe it was specifically stated that she caught those three cities. I'd imagine that when Karsus stole Mystryl's power, all existing magic ended -- so the birth of Mystra 1.0 wouldn't have been enough to save the cities, she'd've had to specifically try to save them.

She did.

It was in N:EoM. After Mystra's formation was complete... "she was able to save only three of Netheril’s floating cities; the rest were utterly destroyed".




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It was the FRCS.

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Asgetrion
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I always thought the actual name "Osse" was a bit of a joke as a matter of fact...




Reminds me of "aussie" or "Oz"

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Well, yes. In fact, I think Cordell mentioned that on the WotC boards.

I'm still not comfortable with it though... but then, I've always disliked the terms "Aussie" and "Oz" as well.

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Well, yes. In fact, I think Cordell mentioned that on the WotC boards.

I'm still not comfortable with it though... but then, I've always disliked the terms "Aussie" and "Oz" as well.




How about "Flamin' galahs," then?

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Don't get me started... .

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Well, yes. In fact, I think Cordell mentioned that on the WotC boards.

I'm still not comfortable with it though... but then, I've always disliked the terms "Aussie" and "Oz" as well.




How about "Flamin' galahs," then?



Never heard of that one.

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Hoondatha
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Oh boy am I feeling slow tonight. First I completely misread a post over in the Book Club, and now I can't see the pun that's slapping me in the face, even though I've worked with Australian exchange students for half a decade... Thanks, guys, for pointing out the obvious. Some of us need the help.

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