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Verghityax
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Posted - 21 May 2006 :  22:14:23  Show Profile  Visit Verghityax's Homepage Send Verghityax a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Great sages of Candlekeep,
I need your help to find as much information on Cormyrean noble families as possible (and I don't mean the general lore about being a noble in Cormyr but about particular families like Bleths, Cormaerils, Crownsilvers and so on). I am aware of the fact that there are some pages on this topic in the 2nd edition Cormyr supplement. Are there any other sources besides the one I mentioned?

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1E and 2e box sets.
The FRCS.
Volo's Guide to Cormyr
FR Adventures.
Four from Cormyr
Into the Dragons Lair
Dragon 276 and 278 to 281 and Annual #5.
The Cormyr novel.
The Death of a Dragon novel.
The Wyvernspur novels for Geogi and company.
Elminster's Daughter novel has some info.

Ed's replies from 2004 to present. See the sig and use the TOC/Index.

Hells, there's probably more. :)

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The Sage
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  01:38:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is. Beyond the High Road and Stormlight.

List of Cormyrian nobles -

http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/nobles2.htm

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The Sage
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  01:41:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And George's old listing -

"Here is a list of Cormyr noble families that George Krashos and I have compiled. The following key is provided to reference notations detailing where information or mentions of these familes can be found.

BHR = the novel Beyond the High Road
C = the Cormyr accessory
CAN = Cormyr: A Novel
ST = the novel Stormlight
V = Volo's Guide to Cormyr accessory
Families marked with an '*' are considered defunct/banished/exiled etc.

Ambershield: Darlutheene (1369) (CAN/303)
Ammaeth (Myrton 1198-1271 DR (reign of Palaghard II c1227 DR))
Auantiver -("extinct") Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.78. (V/78)*
Aunkspear (V/127)
Aurubaen - ("extinct") Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.38. (CAN/343)*
Battlestar (ST/28)
Belorgan (CAN/385)
Blacksilver? (Maethe 1335-? DR)
Bleth
Bogbrook - ("extinct") Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.81. (V/81)*
Cormaeril
Creth - (CAN/385)
Crownsilver - 245 DR (reign of Draxius 629 DR (Of Silver, by marriage of Rhiiman Obarskyr, brother of first king) 1st of noble families) (CAN/184)(C/47)
Dauntinghorn (reign of Draxius 629 DR) (CAN/247)(C/47)
Dawninghunt - ("extinct") Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.226.
Delzuld (Sulaspra 1241-1276 DR (reign of Azoun III c1227 DR))
Dheolur - 376 DR (reign of and ennobled by Anglond 376 DR) this noble house has been banished from Cormyr and/or had its lands/titles stripped from it (CAN/184)(V/135)*
Dracohorn - 245 DR: Sacrast (245) ; Ondrin (1369) ; Keolan (?) (reign of Anglond 376 DR) (CAN/157)
Dragonarl - Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.63. (V/63)*
Eldroon: Blundebel (1369) (CAN/145)
Emmarask
Erdusking (ennobled by Rhigaerd II)
Evenhand? (Torst 244-286 DR)
Garthhawk (outlawed by Azoun III)
Goldfeather (reign of Draxius 629 DR, stripped of lands and title in 1069) (CAN/247)*
Greatgaunt
Hawklin
Hiloar - Earl Hiloar (pg80 Beyond the High Road)
Hornshield
Huntcrown
Hunterown? (is this really Huntcrown?) (reign of Barander c1139 DR)
Huntingcrown
Huntsilver - 245 DR: Hundilavatar (1369) (reign of Barander c1139 DR (Of Huntyn and Silver, by Gavrund Huntyn, brother-in-law of second king) 3rd of noble families) (CAN/125)(C/48)
Illance - Martin Frayault (1369) ; Dagh (1369) (reign of Draxius 629 DR) (CAN/15)(C/48)(V/38)
Imbranneth: Threldryn (1369) (CAN/95)
Immerdusk - (ST/115)
Indesm (ST/267)
Indimber (CAN/386)
Janthrin - ("extinct") Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.38. (CAN/343)(V/38)*
Kirinar - ("extinct") Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.93. (V/93)*
Marliir - Cormyr: A Novel -see the chapter on the reconquest of Marsember and the death of Dhalmass. House Marliir was the former ruling family of Marsember. As part of the deal, House Marliir was given land around Arabel, and gave up its claim to the Marsember area. You'll note that in modern products, House Marliir is always listed as the most prominent house of Arabel. Also, one of the Marliir scions is deeply involved in the resolution of Cormyr: A Novel. Duke Raynar Marliir (pg83 Beyond the High Road) (CAN/199)(C/48)
Merendil - 26 DR (reign of Anglond 376 DR) (CAN/135)
Misrim - Count Bhela Misrim of the powerful Misrim merchant family (pg78 Beyond the High Road) (V/59)
Muscalian - 245 DR: (CAN/164)
Narboot - Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.63. (V/63)*
Obarskyr - The Royal Family of Cormyr
Rallyhorn - (CAN/386)
Rayburton - 16 DR: (CAN/119)
Roaringhorn: Blaerla (1369) (CAN/125)
Rowanmantle - Kortyl (1369) (reign of Barander c1139 DR) (ST/11)(C/49)
Scatterhawk (reign of Barander c1139 DR)
Scoril
Selazair? - (Queen Filaeril, wife of Azoun IV, current day)
Silver - 16 DR: Jaquor (16) ; Tristan (16)
Silversword (reign of Barander c1139 DR) (CAN/305)(C/49)
Skatterhawk: Brace (1369) (CAN/95)
Spurbright - Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.141 (description of arms) (V/141)
Summerstar - (ST/2)
Thomdor
Thundersword(s) - Harandil (1369) Volo's Guide to Cormyr, p.38 and p.153. (CAN/275)(V/38)
Truesilver - 245 DR: Warden (1369) ; Beldred (1369) ; Taldeth (1369) (reign of Barander c1139 DR (Of Silver, by second marriage of Villiam Obarskyr, father of first king) 2nd of noble families) (CAN/95)(C/49)
Turcassan - 26 DR (Melineth 364-432 DR; Daverna 389-432 DR) (reign of Anglond 376 DR) this noble house has ben banished from Cormyr and/or had its lands/titles stripped from it (CAN/135)
Wintersun - (CAN/230)
Wyrvar (Alendue 1219-1246 DR (reign of Palaghard II c1227 DR))
Wyvernspur
Yellander - (ST/267)
Royal
Obarskyr
Gondegal "the Old Wolf", "The Lost King" of Cormyr. [device: gray wolf's head with red eyes, face on] "

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  02:11:56  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That list shows us a little under two-thirds of them, from what I can recall. And yes, "Hunterown" IS a typo for Huntcrown.
Unfortunately, the nobles of Cormyr are NDA'd right now, so I can't ask Ed.
Sorry.
Love,
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Edited by - The Hooded One on 22 May 2006 02:13:07
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Verghityax
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  06:43:27  Show Profile  Visit Verghityax's Homepage Send Verghityax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wow! Now that's something! Thank you very much

Oh, one more thing. Do you possibly know how do the most important families' coats of arms look like?
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The Sage
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  07:09:24  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Some of them are covered in the sources listed above. And Ed's mentioned one or two -- that weren't covered by NDA -- in his Candlekeep replies (check Kuje's compiled reply files).

The HERALDRY section of realmspeak.com used to provide the canon-references for Corymrian noble family heraldry also but the site is currently off-line.

I can send you the write-ups themselves from the website if you wish?

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Edited by - The Sage on 22 May 2006 07:11:26
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Verghityax
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  07:53:11  Show Profile  Visit Verghityax's Homepage Send Verghityax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I can send you the write-ups themselves from the website if you wish?


That would be lovely

Edited by - Verghityax on 22 May 2006 07:53:42
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The Sage
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I'm assuming the email in your profile is current? If so, that's the one I'm sending it to.

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Verghityax
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  08:25:40  Show Profile  Visit Verghityax's Homepage Send Verghityax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed, kind sir It is current
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Thauramarth
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  20:34:38  Show Profile Send Thauramarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jerry Davis did a very extensive listing of the noble houses of Cormyr on the Realms-L mailing list. I copy-pasted it into a Word document (still needs editing, though). If you like, I can send it to you?
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Posted - 22 May 2006 :  20:41:03  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

Indeed, Kris Metz has produced a table of Cormyrean Noble Houses herein at Candlekeep. See this scroll.


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Verghityax
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Posted - 23 May 2006 :  12:31:13  Show Profile  Visit Verghityax's Homepage Send Verghityax a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thauramarth

Jerry Davis did a very extensive listing of the noble houses of Cormyr on the Realms-L mailing list. I copy-pasted it into a Word document (still needs editing, though). If you like, I can send it to you?



That would be very kind of ye :)
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