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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 14 May 2006 : 22:51:47
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Can someone clarify the rulings for me on deity's granting nature spells please.
I've had a search through the SRD, and a look in Faiths and Pantheons and magic of Faerun, and not found anything substantial
A friend advised me that only certain deities can grant nature spells but I can't for the life of me find it. I have a ranger in my campaign that worships Mystra and wanted to find out the ruling on this. If it's not at all possible I'll have a word with him and sort something out (possibly his spells manifest in a different manner rather than forcing him to change his god)
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 14 May 2006 : 23:45:55
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In forgotten realms you can worship many gods. I have a bard that worships Milil, Oghma, and Mystra. His ranger obviously is a ranger because he has that love for the land that all rangers do. So I would say he holds Mystra above all others in worship but he also worships Meliekki (Or whatever nature god you like). Just a thought. From what I have gathered the folk of the realms kind worship the gods like the ancient greeks or romans. If it is raining with a chance of floods and tornados you make a quick offering to Talos. If you are about to fight you ask Tempus and Tymora for a little help. If you really want to cast a tenth level spell you pray to Mystra. Just kidding on that last one. |
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bloodtide_the_red
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 May 2006 : 00:07:05
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You want the Sidebar on page 90 of Faiths and Pantheons. It has the list of all the nature deities that can grant druid/ranger spells.
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 15 May 2006 : 01:11:19
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 May 2006 : 08:36:42
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 May 2006 : 15:42:57
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Without complicating things, I would also throw in (just my opinion) that just like trying to say what gods definatively have monk and paladin orders, that maybe we shouldn't view a list as "these are the only ones that grant druid/ranger spells" but more like "these are the ones we know of that grant druid/ranger spells."
From some of Ed's answers about gods and granting spells to various characters for their own reasons, beyond just worship, I would guess that sometimes even "non nature" deities might hatch a plot or two that might cause them to grant such spells. |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 May 2006 : 16:06:21
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Sure but I figure nature spells are a little different, in that they manipulate the natural world, so those deities with an essence of control over (or I suppose interest in) nature would be able to so grant the spells.
Then again I suppose by that logic light spells belong to Lathander, and so on....
I'll have a word with my player (he worships Mystra as he was originally an academic in his backstory, all his levels are in ranger though). Perhaps Mystra has seen fit to grant him 'equivalent' spells, i.e. when casting entangle the plants around don't change, but the entangle effect of plants made from raw magic energy could work. I'll chat to him and see if he's happy with his spells manifesting in a different manner |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 15 May 2006 : 17:48:52
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Sure but I figure nature spells are a little different, in that they manipulate the natural world, so those deities with an essence of control over (or I suppose interest in) nature would be able to so grant the spells.
Then again I suppose by that logic light spells belong to Lathander, and so on....
I'll have a word with my player (he worships Mystra as he was originally an academic in his backstory, all his levels are in ranger though). Perhaps Mystra has seen fit to grant him 'equivalent' spells, i.e. when casting entangle the plants around don't change, but the entangle effect of plants made from raw magic energy could work. I'll chat to him and see if he's happy with his spells manifesting in a different manner
Hmmm, well they are still divine spells and they have to come from a deity. Divine spells just manipulate the Weave the same as other spells do but, unlike arcane spells, they are imparted into the divine caster when he prays, unless the deity doesn't want him to have the spells that he prayed for. Once the spells are cast, they, in the case of the entangle, draw on the Weave that is in the roots and plants, etc, and it causes them them to... well.. entangle. :) |
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Edited by - Kuje on 15 May 2006 17:55:12 |
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AlacLuin
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Posted - 17 May 2006 : 17:30:57
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I do have to say, that sidebar on pg 90 of F&P is not all inclusive so should taken with a grain of salt.
as an example, Shaundakul is not on that list, but his "worshipers" entry specifically states "rangers" (same with Akadi, Grumbar)
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Reefy
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Posted - 18 May 2006 : 00:56:35
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| Agreed. The one that springs to mind for me is I always envisage a group of Selūnite rangers. Unless of course I read that somewhere once and have just liked the concept, but I don't think so. |
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Ranger/Druid Spells
