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Hawkins
Great Reader
USA
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 Posted - 16 Apr 2008 : 16:29:48
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Originally posted by Lameth
What about the novels The Pirate King and the Ghost King?
Will they be placed into the timeline of the 4th Edition?
Might I remind you that the series is called Transitions. My guess is that Pirate King will be in the middle somewhere between the 3e and 4e Realms, and that Ghost King will be entirely in the 4e Realms. |
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Jodes_Quenthal
Acolyte
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Posted - 19 Apr 2008 : 19:03:55
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| Wow, I was really looking forward to Recalamation, but I can understand the reasoning for not finishing a book that has so much of yourself within it. I respect Elaine's honesty and integrity for admitting the simple fact she was not able to complete the book due to her own decision. Obviously it would sell regardless of how well it was written due to the great works in the series ahead of it. Hopefully Elaine will leave the door open for these characters to make appearances elsewhere, but if not, the beauty of imagination is each of us readers can make our own ending up of these character's lives. Wonderful series Elaine, you have nothing to be ashamed of for being honest and your integrity is a rare beautiful thing. |
May the Realms live on |
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Baldwin Stonewood
Acolyte
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Posted - 13 May 2008 : 17:00:16
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| I know, understand, but do not agree with the decision of WoWC to go to 4E. I also understand the FR novels appear be making the leap forward but my question concerns the last book in a trilogy, Paul Kemps upcoming release: Shadowrealm: The Twilight War Book III (The Twilight War) due out in Dec (I believe). Will that continuation of the trilogy round out 3.5 or will there somehow be a transition into 4E within the book? I am hoping it simply finishes the current story line. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jun 2008 : 18:17:13
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Originally posted by Baldwin Stonewood
The Twilight War Book III (The Twilight War) due out in Dec (I believe). Will that continuation of the trilogy round out 3.5 or will there somehow be a transition into 4E within the book? I am hoping it simply finishes the current story line.
No one here would know the answer to that question. You could ask the author, but I sincerely doubt he'd give you an answer, because that would be a spoiler. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jul 2008 : 00:02:24
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| The Pirate King is now pegged for Oct 7th 2008. |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
371 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2008 : 02:15:38
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Don't know if this has been posted but amazon.com is listing Downshadow, by Erik Scott de Bie as the third book in the Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep series. It will be out in April 2007
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2008 : 06:01:40
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Originally posted by The Sage
It's out already!?! 
*The Sage, subtlety hinting at DragonReader's typo regarding the release date of Downshadow*
Oooh, sly. 
It seems we're looking at April 2009, ladies and gents.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2008 : 18:23:27
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Well, that's interesting. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
5056 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2008 : 19:48:26
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I don't think it's breaking any NDAs to say that Ed loved it.
Erik, you must have done good. 
love,
THO |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 01:39:53
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
I don't think it's breaking any NDAs to say that Ed loved it.
Erik, you must have done good.
love,
THO
Well thank you, my lady. [gallant bow]
I hope the rest of you will be pleased as well!
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2008 : 13:59:23
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
I don't think it's breaking any NDAs to say that Ed loved it.
Erik, you must have done good.
love,
THO
He already has his head in the clouds with his upcoming nuptuals THO, now with high praise from Ed he will be unsufferable at GenCo n! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
371 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2008 : 01:17:06
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Originally posted by The Sage
It's out already!?!
*The Sage, subtlety hinting at DragonReader's typo regarding the release date of Downshadow*
Doh!
The DragonReader cannot type and humbly requests forgiveness  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2008 : 16:38:21
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Since Paul hasn't been around a lot lately, he did post in his journal, on Friday, that he does have another new trilogy for Erevis Cale.
Maybe he'll swing by and update us..... If this has already been mentioned elsewhere on Keep, then I missed the post. |
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initiate
Learned Scribe
Canada
102 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2008 : 18:44:01
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Re: Downshadow:
Yeeeeessss!!
I thought they simply could not do anything to make me happy anymore, and I'm still not buying their busted and reconstituted campaign setting, but this is something I can get behind. After a long string of decisions I consider quite terrible, [messing up the drow pantheon, general Sellplague nastiness, flagrant abuse of the novel line], I am thrilled to see WotC making a choice I can be genuinely happy with as a consumer. There are few other authors they could have enlisted to make me give the broken Realms4 a shot in this way. I've enjoyed both of Mr. De Bie's novels, [Ghostwalker more than Depths, but that only because I found Depths cried out for more details on Twilight's past that just weren't there, but which a sequel might provide], and look forward to this one.
Also, ... I know it's far too early to talk about the details, ... but "shadow"? I can think of many shadowy things. Shades are shadowy, [a fact we're never allowed to forget], Shar's shadowy, [likewise], ...
Shadowdancers are shadowy, too.
Good news about the Paul Kemp trilogy, as well. What with these improvements to the novel line, and the Cormyr article by Brian James, could it be that WotC is moving toward turning FR4 around? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jul 2008 : 01:49:56
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Originally posted by Kuje
Since Paul hasn't been around a lot lately, he did post in his journal, on Friday, that he does have another new trilogy for Erevis Cale.
I had the feeling Cale wasn't going to bite the dust. Thanks for the news. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Firestorm
Senior Scribe
Canada
826 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 16:37:32
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham
This is a cross-post to my Q&A thread. If the monitors wish to delete one of the posts or otherwise consolidate, feel free.
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I've heard writers far more experienced than I admit that every now and then, they'll come up against a book that is far more difficult to write than they'd anticipated--including some stories they're never able to complete. For me, RECLAMATION was one of these problematic stories.
I rewrote the plot several times, changed the scope of the story, dropped characters and subplots and added new ones, changed Elaith Craulnober's role from a secondary character to a major character, wrote, revised, tossed out, lather-rinse-repeat. Despite all these efforts--and also because of them--I was unable to complete the book before the drop-deadline. After much consideration, the folks at WotC decided to cancel RECLAMATION.
I have absolutely no complaints about the way WotC has handled this situation. If a writer cannot, for any reason, meet a contracted deadline, the publisher has every right to cancel that book.
Yes, I'm disappointed. This story dealt with several issues I would have liked to resolve: the final mystery behind the moonblades, the identity of the child Princess Amnestria bore to Elaith Craunober, the fate of Kymil Nimesin, the royal succession of Evermeet. Elaith needed to face his past and move beyond it one way or another. Danilo needed to move beyond what my friend and current co-writer calls "a walking romantic subplot" and come into his own. Arilyn had residual issues raised by events in the last part of Dream Spheres.
But. With fourth edition around the corner, it just didn't make sense to push back the release date again. Upcoming 4th edition changes to the Realms will render many of the themes and concerns of this book irrelevant, just as the destruction of Halruaa pretty much guaranteed the irrelevance of the Counselors & Kings trilogy. Also, nine years have elapsed since the release of Dream Spheres, the last Songs & Swords book. Nine years. That's a long, long gap, even in as long-lived a series as Songs & Swords--Elfshadow, the first Songs & Swords book, has been in print longer than many FR readers have been alive. All things considered, it’s probably time to move on.
I apologize to readers who have been looking forward to this story and who are disappointed by its cancellation. You have my heartfelt thanks for all your support, kindness, and friendship over the years.
But but.........Never? Is the message implying that we will never get closure on the characters and storyline of songs and Swords all because of 4th edition coming out making it obsolete?????
Oh good god.........
I can't even really explain the hollow feeling I am experiencing right now. I was looking forward to this on a level equal to that of Shadowrealm. In some ways, moreso since I started reading this series in my youth |
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PaulSKemp
Forgotten Realms Author
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Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 16:55:15
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
[quote]Originally posted by Kuje
Since Paul hasn't been around a lot lately, he did post in his journal, on Friday, that he does have another new trilogy for Erevis Cale.
All,
Just to clarify. I've said that my next trilogy will build off of events from the Twilight War and will be released in trade paperpback format, but I've said nothing else about characters or content (nor can I, yet).
Thanks for spreading the news about the new FR trilogy, though, Kuje. Appreciated.
Edit: Added info re release format |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 17:15:56
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| Oh OK--thanks for the clarification. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 17:42:21
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Thanks, Initiate--your praise and support is really nice to hear. And I hope you won't be disappointed.
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Originally posted by initiate
Also, ... I know it's far too early to talk about the details, ... but "shadow"?
I dropped a series of hints in my Ask the Author thread--the best place as-yet to talk about the novel.
To wit: "Downshadow" is an area of the 4e Waterdeep, specifically one having something to do with one of the big "down" and "shadowy" things in Waterdeep . . . .
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I can think of many shadowy things. Shades are shadowy, [a fact we're never allowed to forget], Shar's shadowy, [likewise], ...
Shadowdancers are shadowy, too.
All true. I wonder if any of that will show up . . . hmm.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
4598 Posts |
Posted - 22 Jul 2008 : 17:44:52
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
He already has his head in the clouds with his upcoming nuptuals THO, now with high praise from Ed he will be unsufferable at GenCon!
And I'll have you know that I'm never insufferable. You'd be surprised what you can live through.
Cheers |
Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 00:27:13
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| I believe that according to Wizards, Blackstaff Tower and Mistshore will both be available at GenCon! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2008 : 20:12:01
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
To wit: "Downshadow" is an area of the 4e Waterdeep, specifically one having something to do with one of the big "down" and "shadowy" things in Waterdeep . . . .
seems Walker might fit in there.........or perhaps 'Light.................. |
When hinges creak in doorless chambers and strange and frightening sounds echo through the halls, whenever candlelights flicker where the air is deathly still, that is the time when ghosts are present, practicing their terror with ghoulish delight. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2008 : 02:03:02
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Following up Downshadow in the Ed Greenwood Presents Waterdeep will be
City of the Dead by Rosemary Jones!
This is awesome news! |
A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2008 : 02:05:32
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June 2009 release for City of the Dead.
April= Erik Scott de Bie
June= Rosemary Jones
How can Wotc top that?
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A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka
"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
371 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2008 : 14:39:10
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I already mentioned The hand of the Hunter by Mark S. in another thread, but this morning WOTC has added The Edge of Chaos (book #3 of the Wilds) to its catalog:
http://ww2.wizards.com/books/Wizards/Products/?doc=250187400 |
Edited by - DragonReader on 06 Nov 2008 14:42:15 |
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DragonReader
Senior Scribe
USA
371 Posts |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2008 : 00:21:11
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Remember the old days of publishing* when the first book was self-contained and had to prove itself before they'd sign on for sequels and such? Now, it seems every book** is the first of a trilogy.
* or movies, for that matter!
** again, or movies |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2008 : 18:46:43
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Originally posted by DragonReader
WOTC has added book 2 of the Abolethic Sovereignty trilogy by Bruce Cordell to its catalog. The book will be called City of Torment and will be out in September 2009
http://ww2.wizards.com/books/Wizards/Products/?doc=250187400
Yet another novel I'm not interested in... |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 18 Nov 2008 01:52:42 |
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