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Originally posted by Sir Vengeance

Wonderful! Absolutely Wonderful! Well, I gonna sure adopt the Shadowfire prestige class into my campaign! Not caring if it is canon or not, as long as there is something to counter Spellfire, I am in for it!

Indeed, TymoraChosen, three cheers for Shar and to her ingenious thinking. Now, I and my fellows need not fear Mystra and her Chosen Silverfire and any Spellfire wielder.

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Originally posted by silvermage

If there are Shadowfire wielders, then Spellfire wielders like Shandril are in hot soup! And Mystra knocked back on her heels and bad news for the Guardians of the Weave and certainly a glorious good news to the Shadovar and Anti-Weave folk.

Also, Spellfire wielders are more likely to humbled by Shadowfire wielders. But the Shadow Weave is corrupted version of the Weave so I am naturally inclined to believe it cannot heal except maybe the undead. I am certain the Shadowfire wielders would go round chasing Spellfire wielders and challenging them in a death duel. if so, I am certain powerful Shadowfire wielders should be able to sense Spellfire wielders within a certain range and vice versa, to balance it.

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However, spellfire trumps all magic. A spellfire wielder CAN absorb Shadow Weave-based magics. Note that the spellfire just destroys the magic on contact, “sucking in” the spell or spell effect. Unlike a Weave-based magic, the absorbed energy is just “gone.” It doesn’t fuel or aid the spellfire user in any way (aside from obliberating or preventing whatever effects the Shadow Weave-based magic would ordinarily have had). Spellfire simply causes Shadow-Weave magic to cease to exist, upon contact. So if the posters meant, “Can a spellfire channeler (or other spellfire-wielding character) absorb Shadow Weave magic to power their spellfire?” the answer is no, and you’re right. But a spellfire channeler (or other spellfire-wielding character) CAN absorb Shadow Weave, without harm to themselves [without being themselves disintegrated], automatically upon contact between spellfire and the Shadow Weave magic, and such absorption is silent, instant oblivion for the magic.

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Originally posted by TymoraChosen

I wonder what will happen to Mystra's Chosen if a Shadowfire wielder attacks Mystra's Chosen with Shadowfire...death of Mystra's Chosen? Another good piece of news if it can happen.

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To The Black Hand of Bane, you’re quite right about Shar being interested in far more than the Shadow Weave. Like all deities, she’s trying to increase her followers, and the allure of the forbidden and illict meetings by night and being part of important little secret societies are her tried-and-true tools to winning the maximum numbers of followers. Only the most grasping and ambitious insist on magical rewards beyond what Shar can grant through her clergy, and before them she dangles the lure of the Shadow Weave.
Shar CAN grant her followers corrupted versions of the same powers Mystra gives, but darkfire and the like are mere shadows of Mystra’s boons, not equivalents. So, there’s no “dark” version of spellfire or the silver fire, despite the claims of Shar or her clergy to the contrary, just inferior unleashings. I know Realms fans love to argue about the natures and powers of the gods, and I promise that in time to come more will be revealed that will surprise many -- but there’s no way I can or will say more, right now. Just remember: if I say it, it’s canon until contradicted in print by a later WotC official Realms publication. Call now, for trained operators are standing by. :}

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Originally posted by TymoraChosen

By the way, those without PDF program to read the article, please PM me and perhaps I will PM you the article.

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Originally posted by The Hooded One
The new TOME OF MAGIC presents three other “systems” of harnessing energies (“magical forces,” most sages would call them). One of those systems is Shadow Magic, and it provides magic that followers of Shar could well turn to, either if the Weave is gone, OR if a DM wants to postulate that Shadow Weave users can tap into this system. Unfortunately, one of the things that Shadow Magic as presented in that tome doesn’t provide users is “shadowfire” or darkfire as it’s been discussed in this thread thus far.

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Originally posted by The Hooded One


Ed does want to stress that the opinion sometimes expressed on these forums (that Mystra and her Chosen are his “personal favourites,” and are Mary-Sues because of that) is wrong. The focus on these Realms characters has been created and nurtured by TSR and WotC editors, in the same way that gamers (and other Realms writers) continue to be fascinated by matters godly. Ed is just as much of a “fan” of Shar, who is also his creation.
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love,
THO

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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

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Originally posted by The Hooded One


Ed does want to stress that the opinion sometimes expressed on these forums (that Mystra and her Chosen are his “personal favourites,” and are Mary-Sues because of that) is wrong. The focus on these Realms characters has been created and nurtured by TSR and WotC editors, in the same way that gamers (and other Realms writers) continue to be fascinated by matters godly. Ed is just as much of a “fan” of Shar, who is also his creation.
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love,
THO

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This is something that I wish more people would realize... I'm actually going to keep this quote handy in my "CK catchall" file (where I keep all my pre-formatted links and such), so I can quote it whenever I see another person say El or the Seven Sisters are "author's darlings".

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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I guess it always struck me that Shar didn't set up her own server, she just steals bandwidth from Mystra.

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