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Julian Grimm
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 Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 03:34:43
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I know Tyr, Torm and Illmatar have been linked together as 'The Triad'. I have been contemplating having the faiths merge into a Church of The Triad.
Does anyone else see this happening and what doe you think the new church would look like as far as infrastructure and cermonies?
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 17:11:25
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| My thought on this is that I would not see a complete merge into a new faith, but I could see a triade working together. My idea would be to build a large temple complex in the shape of a triangle, with each point of the triangle having small individual templs for each of the 3 gods. The head of each church would have equal authority and the 3 would form a council of sorts that would make the decisions for the temple as a whole. This triad would be able then to use each of their unique qualities, as designed by each individual faith, to come together and work for a common good. I would have each church be able to pursue their own interests, as well as participating in the triad's goals and interests. I would place this temple of the triad, in the north, somewhere along the sword coast. I could also see it working in the moonsea region, or the dragon reach areas. this is just spur of the moment and would have to be fleshed out in greater detail, but I can see something along these lines working out. I could also see each church having it's own holidays,ceremonies, and worshippers. In addition though, there would be newer ceremonies dedicated to the triade and it's alliance. |
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Mazrim_Taim
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 17:13:20
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| While the triad are in an alliance, I still think they believe very differently on how good could be carried out. At the very least it would be interesting to see their debates :P |
And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 17:22:21
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Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim
While the triad are in an alliance, I still think they believe very differently on how good could be carried out. At the very least it would be interesting to see their debates :P
Exactly, that is why I would have them be able to pursue individual church interests, while still having some sort of common works, the church as a whole would have to participate in. The council set up between the heads of the church would signify the triad's alliance in a mortal sense, who would then have to come to certain agreements on how to move the alliance forward. Debates would be very interesting, as they are here in these boards. They would not have to agree, disagree, or otherwise all of the time. The council could even include minor heads of each church to form smaller committies for differant projects that are being pursued. |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 18:08:18
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Originally posted by scererar
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Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim
While the triad are in an alliance, I still think they believe very differently on how good could be carried out. At the very least it would be interesting to see their debates :P
Exactly, that is why I would have them be able to pursue individual church interests, while still having some sort of common works, the church as a whole would have to participate in. The council set up between the heads of the church would signify the triad's alliance in a mortal sense, who would then have to come to certain agreements on how to move the alliance forward. Debates would be very interesting, as they are here in these boards. They would not have to agree, disagree, or otherwise all of the time. The council could even include minor heads of each church to form smaller committies for differant projects that are being pursued.
You might want to build on the Triadic Knight, detailed in Champions of Valor.
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 19:44:34
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
You might want to build on the Triadic Knight, detailed in Champions of Valor.
--Eric
I don't have this one yet as I'm a little behind in source books, too many to choose from lately  can anyone assist with a triadic knight reference here and how it would best fit ? |
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Julian Grimm
Seeker
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Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 20:17:31
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I like the idea. Right now the party is getting ready to leave their base in Quevarr and is going to Shadowdale on orders from the head of one PC's Druidic council (investigating the disbanding of the circle there) while there I plan for them to run into assassins from the Church of Bane.
It's there that they find that the heads of each faith is meeting in the Twisted Tower discussing a merge. I won't carry this out yet and hope to carry it on as a subplot until I figure out what to do. I'd love to see these ideas fleshed out more. |
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Sarta
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 11 Mar 2006 : 01:46:34
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I know in my home games, I've definitely included shrines to affiliated deities in major churches. So, if a town is listed as only having a church to Torm in official material, I will occasionally have that church include a shrine (and an attending priest or two) to Tyr or Illmater.
I'm not so sure about having the faiths merge (this becomes a bit more of a heresy in my book), but I could definitely see elaborate services dedicated to the triad occur where a priest of each faith has a role. I could also see churches dedicated to the triad with priests of each taking part... and of course including some Triadic Knights. 
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Julian Grimm
Seeker
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Posted - 11 Mar 2006 : 04:19:47
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I'm torn now as I have kicked around that the reason for the meeting would also be the planning stages for a crusade against Zhentail Keep. For some background we just made it to 1372DR in our time line (We began in 1370 for some of our own reasons).
Now with the return of Bane the leaders of the three churches plan to use the possible confusion of Banes church realigning to mount an attack on the Zhents. ( the Zhentarim is a rumored secret society still IMC)
I had thought that the Sheildmeet would be a good kick off for the planning of a larger council type meetings needed (similar to the early Christain Church councils that established doctorine etc.) to merge the faiths and that the reason for the merge was the planned crusade but now that I think about it they could remain allied to do this.
And I need to get that book with the Triadic Knoghts in there but I am waaay behind on my source books... |
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Horatio
Seeker
Israel
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Posted - 12 Mar 2006 : 17:47:36
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I didn't want to start a new topic so I'm just gonna ask here,
Is it acceptable to pray for another deity in a different deity's church?
Secondly, are there "general" temples? like, a temple for all the good gods? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 12 Mar 2006 : 17:57:14
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Originally posted by Horatio
I didn't want to start a new topic so I'm just gonna ask here,
Is it acceptable to pray for another deity in a different deity's church?
I'd say that if the clergy knew you were doing it, they'd not be happy about it... In some churches, it would be frowned on. In others, it'd get you kicked out. When it comes to evil deities, I'd not risk my life that way.
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Secondly, are there "general" temples? like, a temple for all the good gods?
The Plinth in Waterdeep is one -- just about any deity can be worshipped there, good or evil. |
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Horatio
Seeker
Israel
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Posted - 12 Mar 2006 : 21:02:06
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| Thanks for that bit of knowledge. I thought about having a "general" temple in the server I'm building for NWN, but then it would be impossible to have hierarchy, ranks, and a sense of similarity, closeness and belonging. Eventually I went with "Lathander" since I felt it was the most "general" deity. |
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