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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  04:18:47  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
What do you think are the best products to pick up for information on the Realms? I don't mean for gaming, mind you -- as I've said before, I don't game. (Not for lack of a liking, though, I assure you; I just have no group, little time, and no knowledge anyway.) I just want to know what to pick up for greater understanding of people, places, events, races, etc.

I know the Volo's Guides are good for that -- I happen to have Volo's Guide to the North. I also have the first Forgotten Realms Atlas. What else should I pick up?

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Strahd Von Zarovich
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  04:24:14  Show Profile  Visit Strahd Von Zarovich's Homepage Send Strahd Von Zarovich a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[Waits patiently for Rad to butt in any time]

Well I like you do not have much time to game, however I am fascinated by the information on the Realms.

It is hard to say what is the best information you can get. If you have one of the Volo's guide then I recommend all of the others as they are great. As to the rest it depends on what part of the Realms you are interested in the most. For example, as I mentioned in another post, I have recently picked up the City of Splendors box set, which is a wealth of information and beautiful maps of Waterdeep.

Box sets are great for that type of information, as are the many source books that were written for 2nd Edition.

If you stated what you want to know in particular then I am sure there are many folk on here that can recommend other source books.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  04:26:36  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, I'm just looking for general stuff. Little bits of info that you don't get from the novels, that sort of thing . . . .

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  09:04:22  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Though game accesories, the 2nd edition regional products have most of these tidbits you're looking for.

Lands of Intrigue
Empires of the Shining Sea
Vilhon Reach
Moonshea
Moonsea
City of Splendors
The North
etc..

Other products include
Drizzt's Guide to the Underdark
Cloak and Dagger

If not directly accessible in stores, e-bay or www.hitpointe.com are sources to take a look.
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  09:33:36  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The old boxed sets of 2nd edition FR were fantastic! Its a shame that they were put to a stop

Id have to agree on the City of Splendors box and also The North. If youre not too bothered about being smack up to date then the 2nd edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting Box is a must! All three have loads of material and were great value for money.

FRCS is my current favorite though....couldnt live without it!

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  10:37:01  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

What do you think are the best products to pick up for information on the Realms? I don't mean for gaming, mind you -- as I've said before, I don't game. (Not for lack of a liking, though, I assure you; I just have no group, little time, and no knowledge anyway.) I just want to know what to pick up for greater understanding of people, places, events, races, etc.


Have you ever considered Play by E-mail? It doesn't have to take much time, one doesn't have to be intimitately familiar with the rules (the DM will be). It can be a rewarding experience with the right crew to explore the realms in such a way.

Think it over, and maybe even give it a try. I'm sure there are others on the forum here that can support you if needed.
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MidNight
Acolyte

Netherlands
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  11:41:21  Show Profile  Visit MidNight's Homepage Send MidNight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you're looking for some restricted, easy to read through information: I remember that a few years ago, before I started gaming, somebody recommended me a guide to The Forgotten Realms. It's not one of the most detailed books, I guess, but it contains facts and figures of the Realms presented in an entertaining way. It's purpose is really to give you an introduction to the Forgotten Realms. The information is presented through the tales of an adventurer in the party named The Seekers. They travel through all of Faerun (a great part of it, at least.)
I don't know if it's very easy to get your hands on this, for it's 2nd edition material, I believe. And I must note that it was a few years ago since I read it. The title just is An Introduction to The Forgotten Realms, if I remember correctly.
Maybe this is not at all what you're looking for, but it crossed my mind while reading your post.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  07:20:50  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal

Have you ever considered Play by E-mail?



I assume you're talking about your PBeMs . . . how do they work, anyway? And what would I have to do?

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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  08:00:07  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MidNight

If you're looking for some restricted, easy to read through information: I remember that a few years ago, before I started gaming, somebody recommended me a guide to The Forgotten Realms. It's not one of the most detailed books, I guess, but it contains facts and figures of the Realms presented in an entertaining way. It's purpose is really to give you an introduction to the Forgotten Realms. The information is presented through the tales of an adventurer in the party named The Seekers. They travel through all of Faerun (a great part of it, at least.)
I don't know if it's very easy to get your hands on this, for it's 2nd edition material, I believe. And I must note that it was a few years ago since I read it. The title just is An Introduction to The Forgotten Realms, if I remember correctly.
Maybe this is not at all what you're looking for, but it crossed my mind while reading your post.



Midngiht, you're talking about the Player's Guide to the Forgotten Realms. Its references: PG2 TSR2142

I never read it, but it looks like great
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  08:01:11  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And as i think about it, i really think it's what you need Bookwyrm
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  08:04:40  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Player's Guide? Yeah, probably. Thanks. (I thought she was referring to something like the Forgotten Realms FAQs, which is a bit low on what I was looking for.)

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Artalis
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  15:51:47  Show Profile Send Artalis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal

Have you ever considered Play by E-mail?



I assume you're talking about your PBeMs . . . how do they work, anyway? And what would I have to do?



Look over here

Heh, Sorry Mumadar I gotta post 'em where I can get 'em

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  15:56:14  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You're absolutely correct Artalis. Spread the word, we'll make a Priest of PbeM out of you yet. (alignment Lawful Dicey?)
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 13 Mar 2003 :  05:25:58  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, both of you. It's midterm week right now (meaning I really shouldn't even be here ), so next week (spring break for me) I'll try to go lurk a little.

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MidNight
Acolyte

Netherlands
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Posted - 13 Mar 2003 :  12:27:33  Show Profile  Visit MidNight's Homepage Send MidNight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zemd

And as i think about it, i really think it's what you need Bookwyrm



Thank you for adding this information, zemd. That was exactly what I meant. Thanks a lot.
And good luck finding what you're looking for, Bookwyrm!

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Drummer Boy
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  02:36:19  Show Profile  Visit Drummer Boy's Homepage Send Drummer Boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm

quote:
Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal

Have you ever considered Play by E-mail?



I assume you're talking about your PBeMs . . . how do they work, anyway? And what would I have to do?



Actually once you create your character, which the Players Handbook describes how to do, there really isn't that much to do in a PBeM since the DM does the die-rolling. You just have to explain what your intentions are (and it's done in a novel-like way) and the DM will tell you whether or not you succeed in attacking, making a skill check, or whatever you're doing. I'm fairly new to D&D as well, but thanks to some scribes here who have showed me how to get started (and Mumadar for letting me join his PBeM) I'm having a great time playing.
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  09:07:03  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not paying in the Silver Marches Pbem... hopefully. When i take in calculate the time i'm looged in candlekeep, and the time it takes me to read some of the mails... Mumadar do you have a Time Stop spell?
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  09:16:54  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You mean "thankfully" -- "hopefully" would imply that you hoped never to be in one of Mumadar's games.

DANG IT! I did it again. I guess you just bring out the teacher in me, Zemd. (And that's not a bad thing. )

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zemd
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Posted - 15 Mar 2003 :  12:51:30  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since i'm always glad to learn... it's ok
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 :  19:16:20  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, folks. I just went out to the bookstore, as I finally had the time. For the first time in my life, I looked at the D&D section with an eye to purchase (I had once looked at some of the info when just starting the Realms, but it was all Dwarvish to me ).

Okay, here's the complaint.

30 gold pieces for the Player's Handbook?????? 40 for the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting????????????????



And another thing that was very strange was the pricing difference between the hard- and paperbacks of the same aproximate size. There wasn't one! City of the Spider Queen and the Player's Handbook were both 30 pieces. Usually there's about a 25% difference.

I did buy the Player's Handbook. However, I did stop by a used bookstore (like I said, I prefer those!) and found a copy of Faiths & Avatars for a mere nine gold and five silver. I don't know what edition it is (there's no way to tell, on either book) but since the original price was 25 pieces, I would surmise it was the second.

I, and my money pouch, have newfound simpathy for all you hardcore players. DMs especially.

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zemd
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Posted - 16 Mar 2003 :  21:42:15  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Héhéhé, i know what you mean, i've got all the wotc products for 3rd edition (except heroes' builder guidebook and psionic handbook) and it's really expensive... but when you love you don't count (french proverb)

And Faiths & Avatars is 2nd edition the 3rd edition equivalent is Faiths & Pantheons.
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Voronica Whitney-Robinson
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  03:44:37  Show Profile  Visit Voronica Whitney-Robinson's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm-

Check out the Classics page at WotC:
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/dx20020121x#cam

They have a few of the products Mumadar mentioned and they are all free downloads. Not as good as a book in your hands, but the price is nice...

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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  10:59:16  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, yes... forgot about the availability there. Thanks Voronica.

Though word of warning to the non-US scribes... unless WotC changed their policy, the electronic downloads for sale are only available for US residents... technically speaking...
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Voronica Whitney-Robinson
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  12:29:04  Show Profile  Visit Voronica Whitney-Robinson's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It looks like WotC licensed a company called SV Games to sell some of their older products as downloadable files and this company does deal with international customers.

You can find them here: http://www.svgames.com/

Happy hunting!

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 19 Mar 2003 :  19:11:37  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Voronica Whitney-Robinson

Bookwyrm-

Check out the Classics page at WotC:
http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/dx20020121x#cam

They have a few of the products Mumadar mentioned and they are all free downloads. Not as good as a book in your hands, but the price is nice...



Ooo! Freebooksfreebooksfreebooks!

Heh, yeah, I usually prefer the physical version, but I'm not like my father -- while he likes computers, he completely objects to ebooks. Me, well . . . have PDA, will download! Oh, the ease of travel with an ebook. Thanks!

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The Sage
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Australia
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Posted - 27 May 2003 :  10:02:24  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bookwyrm, if you ever have need for gaming questions that need answering I would be glad to assist you. Like many hard-core D&D fans I have all editions of the PHB, and the DMG, although I only have the 2e and 3e Monster Manual. Still I will be happy to help out whenever you need some assistance.

Good learning...



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