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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 03 Mar 2003 :  23:42:31  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Any reason (other than collecting) to have access to the 1st and/or 2nd editon campaign sets in a 3rd edition FR game (e.g. better maps, or dropped characters, events or locations, stuff like that)?

Strahd Von Zarovich
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  00:01:13  Show Profile  Visit Strahd Von Zarovich's Homepage Send Strahd Von Zarovich a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As I am sure others will tell you, there is more than just the collectors value to the material in the other editions of Forgotten Realms.

Lately I have gone back and purchased City of Splendors box set which has a wealth of information in there, and fantastic maps. Some of the information might be out of date, but is still worth every penny, as not much has changed in Waterdeep, and I learnt lots from it.

The third edition stuff is nice, but you will never beat the 2nd Edition Box Sets, which alas we will never see made again.

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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  00:35:10  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Strahd Von Zarovich:

Eeeeexcellent.
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zemd
Master of Realmslore

France
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Posted - 04 Mar 2003 :  22:58:23  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are A LOT of info in 2nd editions books!
Tell me the subjects you want to find, i'll tell you the books
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 05 Mar 2003 :  16:07:51  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zemd:

If you had to pick the single best resource for humans in the realms, what would it be? Maybe that's too hard to answer, I don't know. My realms knowledge so far comes from Salavatore's books (all of them), the BioWare/Black Isle games (all of them) plus the bits I've read of the RPG stuff I have.
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zemd
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France
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Posted - 05 Mar 2003 :  21:58:55  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Humans... that's a huge domain.
There are differents cultures, nations, ...

I'd say Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast, Volo's Guide to BG2
City of Splendors (Waterdeep one of the greatest city)
Calimshan (one of the greatest human empire)
Netheril: empire of magic (a lost empire of human)

....

Well, i can't give you the complete list of the books in relation with humans, be more precise please
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 05 Mar 2003 :  22:20:07  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zemd:

I specifically did not ask "What is the best sourcebook for Viking-like barbarians or cosmopolitan merchants or pirates or denizens of an oppressive magocracy or North African-like cultures or decadant oligarchies?" because the nsweres to those questions allow for only one, possibly more in some cases, choices.

I guess what I meant was: if you were stranded on an island with only one human-related source book for FR, what would it be?

I gather, from your answer, that it might be "Volo's Guide to the Sword Coast", since you put that first. That's fair enough and as good an answer as I expected to, as you yourself implied, a complicated question, so thank you for the input.

And you're right, I don't need a list of all the human-related FR sourcebooks.
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 06 Mar 2003 :  09:59:52  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
An island and only one FR book on humans... hmmm

Anyways, your best shot would probably be the Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting. There is no real 'racial' product on humans. Humans are everywhere in the Realms. The best way to read about them is to read all... And the best book for that (for a top-level overview) is FRCS.
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 06 Mar 2003 :  15:31:56  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mumadar Ibn Huzal:

You can bet, I'm downloadin' PDFs from WotC like a fiend, but I gotta start somewhere after the campaign book and I was just curious if anyone had a favorite Realms human culture sourcebook.
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zemd
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France
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Posted - 06 Mar 2003 :  18:56:00  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd hesitate between City of Splendors, Calimshan and Red Wizards of Thay
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  19:08:11  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found a used copy of the 2e FRCS and it is vastly superior to the 3e.
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  19:44:45  Show Profile Send Mumadar Ibn Huzal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Owning all three versions (original grey box, grey box and FRCS), I can understand what you feel, but the first two are more limited in scope while they delve a little deeper into detail.

A matter of preferences I guess... mine would be a mix of both, but to start a campaign I believe the 3e FRCS is a better tool for the DM.
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branmakmuffin
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  20:41:37  Show Profile  Visit branmakmuffin's Homepage Send branmakmuffin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mumadar Ibn Huzal:

Yes, I'll use both. The 2e is more detailed (Sembia, for example), as you say. It also has better maps.

Let me ask you, since you own all three, is there a lot of worth in 1e if I have 2e and 3e?
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zemd
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France
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Posted - 12 Mar 2003 :  22:04:43  Show Profile Send zemd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think owning the first edition while you have the 2nd is very useful.
And remember that the 3rd edition is only two years old, 2nd is much older so no surprise that it is more described!
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