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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 :  17:15:10  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Given that I absolutely love the Lanhkmar books and Fafhrd and Mouser and the like, I was just wondering if there were any veiled references to portals to Newhon anywhere in Faerun. I know that its not likely that the portal would be outright stated, but I wasn't quite sure if anyone was sly enough to sneak this in.

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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 :  17:26:38  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The only explicit published Nehwon reference is to a Nehwon ghoul who travelled with Tamper Tencoin, mentioned in FOR4 The Code of the Harpers. No portal is mentioned.
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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 :  17:43:23  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know, given the cave system of Ningauble, I can almost see UnderMountain having a portal to Newhon somewhere in its depths.
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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 :  17:47:47  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Personally, I'd have such traffic go via Gary Gygax's Odd Alley (a Leiberesque dimensional nexus that touches many cities, mentioned in Saga of Old City and seen in Night Arrant), or maybe the Wood between the Worlds, rather than directly through a gate.
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You could always have Newhon connected to Sigil...

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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 :  17:59:21  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Of course that is all assuming that there is only one place that connects the two. I was also wondering about temporal alignment. After all, Newhon was lined up with Earth's past when Fafhrd and Mouser went on the whole "Anra Devadoris" adventure, and Faerun seems to be lined up with Earth's present. I wonder if the caves hitch up to different times as well as places? (I think this may have been addressed, but its been a while since I read them)
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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 :  18:00:21  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

You could always have Newhon connected to Sigil...




EVERYTHING is connected to Sigil!
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Sigil was made up for Planescape as a planar nexus when good ones already existed, ones I like better -- and I don't think the planes should have a cosmopolitan hub (let alone one inhabited by self-important canters). I assume there's more than one Toril–Nehwon connection, but I'd use the caves or Odd Alley or something similarly 'old school'.

I don't know about the time question...
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Of course that is all assuming that there is only one place that connects the two. I was also wondering about temporal alignment. After all, Newhon was lined up with Earth's past when Fafhrd and Mouser went on the whole "Anra Devadoris" adventure, and Faerun seems to be lined up with Earth's present. I wonder if the caves hitch up to different times as well as places? (I think this may have been addressed, but its been a while since I read them)



Were the two really lined up in time? I think itt's possible that Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser traveled thru time to get to Earth...

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Posted - 24 Feb 2006 :  19:12:19  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its possible they did, I just couldn't remember if they had said anything about time and space or just space, if you take my meaning.

I also liked the idea that when they went to Earth they suddenly thougth they were from Earth, and aquired memories of cultures from Earth, though I would make that a unique "alteration" from Ningauble's cave. It would be interesting to see where the two would think they were from if they came to the Realms.
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Wouldn't be that big a stretch for the World Serpent Inn in Arabel to occasionally allow travelers to get to and from Lankhmar.

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Posted - 25 Feb 2006 :  06:59:27  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

You could always have Newhon connected to Sigil...




EVERYTHING is connected to Sigil!



Yep we can always blame Sigil for anything appearing where it isn't supposed to be.

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Yep we can always blame Sigil for anything appearing where it isn't supposed to be.



It's how we wound up with a kender wandering the Realms...

And actually, though we only know of one kender in the Realms, with they way they wander, I'm sure that Emilo Haversack isn't the only kender wandering Faerūn. There's likely only a handful, if that many, but I'm certain there's more than just the one.

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Posted - 26 Feb 2006 :  07:58:01  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

Yep we can always blame Sigil for anything appearing where it isn't supposed to be.



It's how we wound up with a kender wandering the Realms...

And actually, though we only know of one kender in the Realms, with they way they wander, I'm sure that Emilo Haversack isn't the only kender wandering Faerūn. There's likely only a handful, if that many, but I'm certain there's more than just the one.

Hey, you can't blame Sigil for that.

If anything, you should be blaming that nonsense wanderlust that infects every non-afflicted Kender on Krynn.

"Once upon a time the plural of 'wizard' was 'war'." -- The Last Continent, by Terry Pratchett
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Well, yes, but without the City of Doors, or the World Serpent Inn, they'd have no way to GET here.

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quote:
Originally posted by Volo

Well, yes, but without the City of Doors, or the World Serpent Inn, they'd have no way to GET here.



... Except for spelljamming or planar travel.

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Posted - 27 Feb 2006 :  13:34:43  Show Profile  Visit Lady Kazandra's Homepage Send Lady Kazandra a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Volo

Well, yes, but without the City of Doors, or the World Serpent Inn, they'd have no way to GET here.



... Except for spelljamming or planar travel.

And writers for that matter.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

If anything, you should be blaming that nonsense wanderlust that infects every non-afflicted Kender on Krynn.
Actually, as I recall... Emilo Haversack was known more for the fact that he was a "worrying" kender than any particular fact about his wanderlust.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Lady Kazandra

If anything, you should be blaming that nonsense wanderlust that infects every non-afflicted Kender on Krynn.
Actually, as I recall... Emilo Haversack was known more for the fact that he was a "worrying" kender than any particular fact about his wanderlust.




Well, he did have reason to worry, in that 2nd book of the trilogy. That kind of thing would worry many people!

But... We seem to have wandered thru a portal that took us off-topic.

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